Callentee - Mtn City (2cd half of armour all)

GubNi

GubNi

8 lug disc brakes?
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Jonesborough, TN
For those familar with Armour all trial near pull cable in Callentee it has been extended. It's fairly easy for a short distance, then about a 3 foot ledge. It's not too hard, but steer right when your front tires crest the top. The next hard spot is a tree in the middle. There's plenty of room on either side. Right looks easy but two large rocks block that path after you go a few yards. Going to the left is more doable, but still difficult. Then the trail gets narrow and then easy again. Here's a short video of the easy part at the end. Sorry I didn't get footage of either of the difficult parts. I'd reccomend 2 lockers and 38's for this trail, but I'm sure it will get easier with time as more people run it and stack rocks - clear trees.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wfa-smfDWA
 
A few of us in CTB have gone out that way , several years ago.
We cut up a lot of trees and cleared our way out. Ended up having to winch our way out at the very end...straight up the hillside onto another trail. It was'nt fun and kinda sketchy, so we never bothered with it again after the first time, But some of us have gone all the way and out the other end.
 
we ran it last weekend. there is some photos in past events we did move a tree that blew over in a storm. it was about 5 feet from that ledge. we had 5 rigs and the largest tire was 36 and two of us was on 33s
 
http://nc4x4.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26646&highlight=armor

The only problems Mr Brown has had up there were from the EPA regarding Armor All. Back in 2001-2002 we had cut that trail all the way to the end. Later, residents downstream complained of dirty water and we were asked by Mr Brown to not ride that trail. Several huge trees were felled across the entrance and it went unused for 3 or 4 years. All of a sudden it was opened back up a couple of years ago. When I asked Mr Brown about riding it in 2007 he didn't say yes or no, just mentioned the problems he had had with the EPA. I'm guessing the park will not be open that much longer and he probably doesn't care one way or the other. Another EPA visit could be the straw that breaks the camel's back though. Just a little history on Armor All :)
 
I'm guessing the park will not be open that much longer and he probably doesn't care one way or the other.
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Any particular reason you say that?? I would hate to lose that place, definitely the best destination within a couple hours.
 
From what I know Adam, which has been passed down from JC, Mr. Brown is getting up there in age, and once he passes his children want nothing to do with the property and will be looking to sell.

This is unfortunate but its fairly certain to happen. I've heard this from some horse people in Boone who used to ride the property back when it was a horse destination as well. I wish it was one of those "work to keep it open scenarios" but unless we all come up with a pile of money it looks as if it will be sold.
 
Has anyone ever considered having a "Clubs" owned area?

I know some have there private areas, But what about having somewhere all the clubs own together, then there could be enough cash collected to buy such a place.

Just a thought, But I am most likely pissing in the wind.
 
burrellsjeep said:
Has anyone ever considered having a "Clubs" owned area?
I know some have there private areas, But what about having somewhere all the clubs own together, then there could be enough cash collected to buy such a place.
Just a thought, But I am most likely pissing in the wind.
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That would turn in to a huge argument.
 
I'm with Mark. Clubs are what they are....clubs. Individuals gathered for a common cause. In our case wheeling. However, some clubs are more family oriented while others more "hardcore." I foresee a huge argument on what to do/where to put the $ raised between the different clubs. Maybe I'm wrong?
 
That's the problem with the wheeling comunity. We act like a bunch of inbred brothers fighting over their sister when the neighbors girls are smokin hot. I'm not a buisnessman but somebody out their has to have enough sense to put bylaws down on paper and construct some sort of group ownership of large tracs of land. A decleration of Investment guidelines, usage, and how your allowed to gain access (membership annual or daily ect.), like community or neighborhood associations. You guys will buy houses that tell you what you can park or how to mow, but complain when someone sugest taking your own wheeling fate into your hands. Wake up people its called a corperation, how do you think little buisnessmen get to be big leaders of multifacited intities. If we don't gel as a group and start unifying were all going to get to play in very small very private sandboxes. Build a comunity, an investment and then control the outcome. When someone gets out of line (vandels ect. send em packing) reward higher level investors with more voting power, but make it accesable to any individual who wishes to invest in the wheeling future. If it washes out with the right approach and profesionalism its gets devided up and everyone moves along, just like stocks. Only difference is this stock would never go down in value. I personally would come closer to financing this type of investement before others because it would be securing multiuse land for myself and if done right future generations like my son. The biggest problem is most look only for the personal gain aquired from property ownership.

Sorry if this was hard to read and the spelling sucks, but it was typed from my personal point of view. I've always been pasionate about this subject and nobody generally thinks it would work. I'd love to see it tried.

Sory to jack your thread Gubni
 
I agree,

It would take everyone in a group effort in order to pull something like this off. I would be willing to pay a monthly dues in order to secure a place like Callentee.

Like stated, I would do this more for the fact I want my sons to have a place to wheel if they decide to do so.


Sorry for the Jack.
 
How many acres are we taking about in all?
 
JC said:
http://nc4x4.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33116

Went nowhere at the time. With approximately 5k NC4x4 users at the time, we were able to raise about $40k in possible investment capital :(
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This was before my joining up with NC, so I apologize if it came accross as an already beat down dead horse. I still believe in my heart that our elected officials and the general populous could care less about our chosen pursuits that utilize any sort of motorized access. Exclusively concerned with public gov't owned land. A gov't is a buisness and unless it generates taxable revenue they could care less. I know we have all the related industries buisness and products but its simply not what our goverment wants us to pursue. Luxuries and pastimes do not represent substancial longterm revolving taxable revenue. Even less when we are generally made up of a group of blue collar mid to lower income DIY guys and gals. Wait til Uharree is to expensive to keep and see what happens. All land for ORV recreactional land will be privatized or lost.
 
WARRIORWELDING said:
This was before my joining up with NC, so I apologize if it came accross as an already beat down dead horse.
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No problem, just pointing it out. I'm in agreement with you and also wonder why someone hasn't done this in central/eastern NC. There are several private parks in middle/east TN that seem to be doing OK. IMO a properly operated venue in central NC would be a viable enterprise. If you read the whole Land Purchase thread, there are some good ideas and discussion of the pros and cons. I was ready to invest and was surprised that it never went anywhere.
 
JC said:
Cracker's Neck was around 8k acres, sold for $12M.
Callalantee was about 6500 acres until he sold the bald area, it's around 5500 right now.
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So based on that math we'd need a hair over $8M to own Callalantee.... anyone want to do a BBQ chicken fund raiser? I just wish I had the coin laying around to purchase that piece of property... I could forsee it being a premier destination w/ a small amount of money and a lot of sweat dumped into it.

Do something different with it to appease the EPA, DWQ, DENR or whomever TN has... and go in and restore/engineer the main stream leaving the property to accept/handle the sediment generated from wheeling upstream, quit the logging, return the logged areas back to their natural state, prevent offsite erosion, release a few bald eagles, maybe some brook trout, etc. I'm just saying it would be possible to go in and design it before hand to prevent or atleast hold off the hounds from the government. :popcorn:

Wishful thinking...
 
uncc civilengineer said:
So based on that math we'd need a hair over $8M to own Callalantee.... anyone want to do a BBQ chicken fund raiser? I just wish I had the coin laying around to purchase that piece of property... I could forsee it being a premier destination w/ a small amount of money and a lot of sweat dumped into it.
Do something different with it to appease the EPA, DWQ, DENR or whomever TN has... and go in and restore/engineer the main stream leaving the property to accept/handle the sediment generated from wheeling upstream, quit the logging, return the logged areas back to their natural state, prevent offsite erosion, release a few bald eagles, maybe some brook trout, etc. I'm just saying it would be possible to go in and design it before hand to prevent or atleast hold off the hounds from the government. :popcorn:
Wishful thinking...
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We would need to replace all that bad cable wire too! And kill and fry them chickens..lol

I think everyone that has been there has day dreamed about owning that place, and fixing it up. Gosh, I know I have. If I owned the property and had a cool million to up-grade the facilities...man, what a destination it would be...:rolleyes:
 
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