Cameras, surveillance, and legality

a_kelley

a_kelley

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So this dude has cameras pointed at his neighbor's property. No signs are posted in the view of the camera stating that it is recording. Is there anything that the recorded victim can do about that? Certainly being unposted makes it inadmissable video in court, but can the camera be forced to be redirected or removed by legal action?

@ckruzer @shawn
 
If cameras are on his property there is little legal standing to have him redirect their angle. He is not required to have posted notices. Recorded video could be admissible in court regardless of posted notice.


What in the world kinda situation you got yourself in here?
 
A roving band of paintball hooligans. But are these camera's deliberately pointed at the neighbors property or does the field of view happen to catch both his and their property? If it isn't blatantly a "peeping tom" type issue, it's probably not worth even mentioning.

Oh, and good fences make good neighbors.
 
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They are deliberately aimed at the neighbor's property with no obvious purpose on his property... There's no issues yet, however given the record of the guy that setup the cameras, it's questionable why they'd be set the way they are.
 
Most likely he's doing nothing wrong, it's a public area. You could--even though you would be in the wrong--set up ir blockers though.
Unless you're the one pointing a camera at the neighbor.
 
NC is a one party consent state. So the audio would be admissible. But could be easily argued if it's left unattended.

The video portion should be admissible is most cases. It could be removed by court order if it could be proven a bathroom window or bedroom window (etc) is being recorded. A generalized view of a property as a whole or in part from your own property can be legal.

Recording video of someone's private property from public property can have its issues. Really "how often" is the controlling factor there from what I've seen.

Recording their property from their property, without consent... yeah

In general, unless you can prove stalking, strong potential for harm to arise from, or trespass... you can generally video record anything (excluding bathrooms, locker rooms, etc). You generally don't need to notice people they are video recorded, it usually that they need to be noticed they are being audio recorded. Lots of grey areas. For example you could audio record your own home, and as NC is a one party consent state it is all legal even when people visit and they are unaware. However. If you leave the room, but guests remain in the room, you are no longer a consenting Party...

Too many variables. In this it really boils down to context and what judge is reviewing the case
 
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Right on.. all things considered, the person that setup the cameras had/has violations of injunctions, stalking and harassment charges... Good information to know considering I'm thinking about setting some up myself to watch my customers stuff... I'll let the guy concerned know.

Very much appreciate y'all's input.
 
Research high output IR leds, renders anthing in the camera viewer as a big white blob. No liability issues because it doesn't do any damage to the camera.
 
@tsconver sells these little extensions to boom sticks that would take care of said camera if you so desired to do so "quietly"


I mean..theoretically of course
 
So for this camera paranoia...what are you guys doing for front door cameras??? My front door has a couple different cameras that covers 180* and captures everything across the street. And then 180* of coverage at each corner of the house when the motion lights are set off. Get alerts and live feeds to my phone. Or are you guys only worried about the creepers???

ckruzer said:
did this for ATM use :D
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Not sure if you're going with '@$$ to mouth' or 'automated teller machine' on this one. :flipoff2:
 
XJsavage said:
More info on this please. :smokin:
*coming from somebody whos been f****d at one*
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cheap $1 led ir's wired to a 9v. baseball cap. worked. goofy. could be done very nicely. for the next one one to look into solar power. also not a fan of the emf around the head nonstop, so was only practical if you *planned* to be in front of a camera. So ordered some lead foil, and going to look into laminating some strips to use for wire shielding (but is laminate enough to protect against sweat+lead???).

For the right reasons, also makes an excellent frame license plates. Really fancy cameras have IR filters tho, so not a silver bullet.

I love these types of fun projects.

Current project I am planning for is r&d fun with battery liquid alternatives. And the project after that is a brew-build for some brewing fun and finding a way to incorporate with a unique piece of tech i found that greatly increases 'smoothness'.
 
ckruzer said:
And the project after that is a brew-build for some brewing fun and finding a way to incorporate with a unique piece of tech i found that greatly increases 'smoothness'.
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You had me at "hello". :beer:
 
ckruzer said:
cheap $1 led ir's wired to a 9v. baseball cap. worked. goofy. could be done very nicely. for the next one one to look into solar power. also not a fan of the emf around the head nonstop, so was only practical if you *planned* to be in front of a camera. So ordered some lead foil, and going to look into laminating some strips to use for wire shielding (but is laminate enough to protect against sweat+lead???).
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So... umm... I gotta ask.
Where in the world would you get any EMF of any measurable size from an LED?
 
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