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it's been done and works very well....cherokee with 3.5" lift on 38" ssTSLs, Doubler, welded rear, snorkel, no rubbing at all and can still climb almost anything and not flip. thats for all those cherokee fanatics like me wondering if it can be done. enjoy happy trailin.
 
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userbmx1315 said:
nice, might want to swap the axles to a waggy 44 with rcv's to hold up those 38's.
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really, you don't think the d30 & d35 (8.25) will hold the 38" rolling mass with a doubler? :D I had one on 44's & spanked everything...:shaking:

J/K


Please take this mans advice, the people you wheel with will thank you..
 
yep just some saw saw and sledge hammer, and i wish everyone would quit talkin about 44s....waste of money in my opinion. 13years with jeeps and im satisfied with only breaking a ujoint every couple years and that's it. its not about what you ride on, but how you ride on what you got and use it properly and know its limits and ability.
 
doubler will be ready tomorrow and hopefully shafts made this weekend and ready to go next week. SOOOOOO exited!!!!! just for the record, nothing wrong with any D30 or D35 or Chrysler 8.25 People who brake them all the time are usually, unless manf. defect, abusing them for what they are. Its not about the axles, or tons, or rockwells, or any of that stuff, its about knowing the limits of what you got, how to use what you got, and how to best perform your rig for what you design it to do: u see guys, a guy with power/torque and tons/rockwells/D60s..etc... can power through stuff to make it and probably not worry too much about breaking crap, BUT HOWEVER a guy like me with cherokee on 36 or now 38s even without doubler for 13years can do the same stuff just smarter driving and more of a crawl attitude through the same stuff. thats the real only difference. most of time on trail, someone with bigger diffs on similar size tires, i can keep up with my cherokees...it just takes more thought, attention and finesse of the peddle. Now with the Doubler coming, all that will go a whole lot easier now because no such thing as wheel spin and lets face it, wheel spin is when stuff breaks, not crawling usually so cherokee on 38 with Doubler is going to be soooo much easier for me since i'm used to one t-case so well, having that second will most of the time take my challenge away. I'm not puttin down any 60s, tons,rockwells guys, i love all rigs no matter how big or small or tankish they are, i'm just backing up and motivating the smaller guys to keep on wheelin and don't be discouraged to run big tires or such on cherokees. drive that sucker and learn what that 'squarebox' 'heep' can do. he he, peace and love yall.
 
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88jeepster said:
doubler will be ready tomorrow and hopefully shafts made this weekend and ready to go next week. SOOOOOO exited!!!!! just for the record, nothing wrong with any D30 or D35 or Chrysler 8.25 People who brake them all the time are usually, unless manf. defect, abusing them for what they are. Its not about the axles, or tons, or rockwells, or any of that stuff, its about knowing the limits of what you got, how to use what you got, and how to best perform your rig for what you design it to do: u see guys, a guy with power/torque and tons/rockwells/D60s..etc... can power through stuff to make it and probably not worry too much about breaking crap, BUT HOWEVER a guy like me with cherokee on 36 or now 38s even without doubler for 13years can do the same stuff just smarter driving and more of a crawl attitude through the same stuff. thats the real only difference. most of time on trail, someone with bigger diffs on similar size tires, i can keep up with my cherokees...it just takes more thought, attention and finesse of the peddle. Now with the Doubler coming, all that will go a whole lot easier now because no such thing as wheel spin and lets face it, wheel spin is when stuff breaks, not crawling usually so cherokee on 38 with Doubler is going to be soooo much easier for me since i'm used to one t-case so well, having that second will most of the time take my challenge away. I'm not puttin down any 60s, tons,rockwells guys, i love all rigs no matter how big or small or tankish they are, i'm just backing up and motivating the smaller guys to keep on wheelin and don't be discouraged to run big tires or such on cherokees. drive that sucker and learn what that 'squarebox' 'heep' can do. he he, peace and love yall.
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88jeepster said:
no action yet, waiting on the Doubler and then ready to go!!!!
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I am a fan of a doubler in a cherokee but I hope you are not getting overly excited about a 231/231 doubler. You will save yourself a lot of paranoia and trouble down the road as long as it is a 231/300 doubler. Note, a lot of people like the bigger axles because better gear ratios. I have 33s and still feel like my 4.56 gears aren't the greatest. I can't imagine pushing 38s with anything less than gears above the 5.XX range.
 
oleblue said:
I am a fan of a doubler in a cherokee but I hope you are not getting overly excited about a 231/231 doubler. You will save yourself a lot of paranoia and trouble down the road as long as it is a 231/300 doubler. Note, a lot of people like the bigger axles because better gear ratios. I have 33s and still feel like my 4.56 gears aren't the greatest. I can't imagine pushing 38s with anything less than gears above the 5.XX range.
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i like the 4.88's in my manual I would think 4.56 and an auto would be ideal for 33's. I've only ever driven mine though. A doubler would be nice though with a manual. so you aren't working the clutch.
 
oleblue said:
I am a fan of a doubler in a cherokee but I hope you are not getting overly excited about a 231/231 doubler. You will save yourself a lot of paranoia and trouble down the road as long as it is a 231/300 doubler. Note, a lot of people like the bigger axles because better gear ratios. I have 33s and still feel like my 4.56 gears aren't the greatest. I can't imagine pushing 38s with anything less than gears above the 5.XX range.
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Paranoia? I feel like you haven't been reading any of his posts... A chain drive 231--even behind a reduction boxer will last forever, in capable hands.
And I mean, while I don't understand brand loyalty...I can see where it can be a big deal. But dana axles and new process tcases aren't jeep products, what's the big deal? Putting 38's on the jeep only contradicts your "less is more, finesse is where it's at" attitude anyway, why not put some stock 225/75's back on and wheel it like that--within the limits of a unibody and quarter ton axles?
 
88jeepster said:
doubler will be ready tomorrow and hopefully shafts made this weekend and ready to go next week. SOOOOOO exited!!!!! just for the record, nothing wrong with any D30 or D35 or Chrysler 8.25 People who brake them all the time are usually, unless manf. defect, abusing them for what they are. Its not about the axles, or tons, or rockwells, or any of that stuff, its about knowing the limits of what you got, how to use what you got, and how to best perform your rig for what you design it to do: u see guys, a guy with power/torque and tons/rockwells/D60s..etc... can power through stuff to make it and probably not worry too much about breaking crap, BUT HOWEVER a guy like me with cherokee on 36 or now 38s even without doubler for 13years can do the same stuff just smarter driving and more of a crawl attitude through the same stuff. thats the real only difference. most of time on trail, someone with bigger diffs on similar size tires, i can keep up with my cherokees...it just takes more thought, attention and finesse of the peddle. Now with the Doubler coming, all that will go a whole lot easier now because no such thing as wheel spin and lets face it, wheel spin is when stuff breaks, not crawling usually so cherokee on 38 with Doubler is going to be soooo much easier for me since i'm used to one t-case so well, having that second will most of the time take my challenge away. I'm not puttin down any 60s, tons,rockwells guys, i love all rigs no matter how big or small or tankish they are, i'm just backing up and motivating the smaller guys to keep on wheelin and don't be discouraged to run big tires or such on cherokees. drive that sucker and learn what that 'squarebox' 'heep' can do. he he, peace and love yall.
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impressive!
 
wheelspin does not break axles, traction breaks axles.
 
88jeepster said:
it's been done and works very well....cherokee with 3.5" lift on 38" ssTSLs, Doubler, welded rear, snorkel, no rubbing at all and can still climb almost anything and not flip. thats for all those cherokee fanatics like me wondering if it can be done. enjoy happy trailin.
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I dont want to burst your bubble... but you might want to pull a tape on those 38s... They typically run a few inches short.

Check this build out:
http://www.nc4x4.com/forum/index.php?threads/rides-new-ecors-a-class-unit.78039/page-2

Its true 38s on 4.5" lift and the tires rub the fenders consistently.
 
Did you really just make a argument FOR the d35? Hahah. I'm on 35's and a d35 and in cringe everytime I hit a pot hole. Lol. Can't wait for this 8.8 to go in
 
braxton357 said:
Paranoia? I feel like you haven't been reading any of his posts... A chain drive 231--even behind a reduction boxer will last forever, in capable hands.
And I mean, while I don't understand brand loyalty...I can see where it can be a big deal. But dana axles and new process tcases aren't jeep products, what's the big deal? Putting 38's on the jeep only contradicts your "less is more, finesse is where it's at" attitude anyway, why not put some stock 225/75's back on and wheel it like that--within the limits of a unibody and quarter ton axles?
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[sarcasm]what he's doing is groundbreaking stuff. piss off hater [/sarcasm]
 
hey guys, all im sayin is im not afraid or disappointed to run 38s on stock axles with 3.55s cause since I know how to use it and be smart, as someone else said, it works for me. you are right, most people brake everything on 35 but its about knowing the limit of your setup and how to execute. MY personal wheeling style for 13 years has always been creepy crawlin through everything unless real muddy so with doubler, that will work just that much more perfect for me since i'm a crawlin type a guy. Just put the doubler in today and HOLY CRAP, I had to cut a bunch of floor board out to fit since I clocked it some, ohhhh well, good thing its not for looks....he he he... shafts are coming Monday and will put up pics of something doing in the yard with it.
 
In the welding advice thread, you told the op to weld his diff. You welded your d35 with the 38" tires? This works for you because of the amount of skill & wheeeling know how you have?
 
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thanks for the response jeffb, yeah I figure for what type of wheeling he sounds like hes doing he would be ok to weld. and when he mentioned budget truck, that's the first thing comes to mind. with 4 kids for me, budget wheeling has become an expertise with jeeps so I know all about what he's lookin for.
 
huh???????, why guys like you always gotta ruin the sport of wheeling and trucks with stupid idiotic comments like that. if that's what makes you feel like a man than so be it but that's why I keep hearing people bad mouth these forums and nobody wants to come to them to group together. loser
 
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