Could you / Would you run in the TTC?

Would / Could you enter the Top Truck Challenge?

  • Yes

    Votes: 13 72.2%

  • No

    Votes: 5 27.8%
  • Total voters
    18
It can be done without towing. If 1000 miles will ruin your tires then.....

Something else to consider, if you have to drive a couple hundred miles the next day you are not likely to thrash your junk on the hardest obstacle that you can find. Subconsciously you wheel differently when you know there is a trailer to get you home. You know all i have to do is get it to the trail head and im good.
 
Black Bear said:
It can be done without towing. If 1000 miles will ruin your tires then.....

Something else to consider, if you have to drive a couple hundred miles the next day you are not likely to thrash your junk on the hardest obstacle that you can find. Subconsciously you wheel differently when you know there is a trailer to get you home. You know all i have to do is get it to the trail head and im good.
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Theres a lot of truth to that,the first few years I wheeled I drove it back and forth,three trips to Tellico,a couple to Windrock and 6/8 to Harlan on locked one tons and 39 inch boggers on beadlocks.
 
My point is this:

When the UA was in it's infancy, the common tire size was 35-37" which is doable for the same rigs that are not often trailered to their destinations.

Now the tire companies are creating specific set of tires just for the UA and giving them out for publicity for the the competitors to run. Now the common is 39-42" size in the UA.

When you look at the common rigs out on the trails, running 39-42" tires, arguably half of them are running stickys and most of them are trailered there.

Sure I would drive 1000 miles if I had a big name sponsoring me and giving me parts and tires for the trip. My rig is street legal and could be done, just air up and pull the drive slug. To me it's not worth it for he investment I've made in the rig.

My whole point is, both the TTC and the UA are not realistic to what is commonly being wheeled with anymore.

After having dding my jeep for years, driving to wheeling spots, and now trailering. It is far less stressful and more fun to go out and wheel and if somethjng breaks, to put it on the trailer and fix it that night, or take it home. Either way, I'm making it back in time to go to work on Monday, without the stress of locating parts and fixing it just to make it back home...

I other words I miss the real truck challenge...
 
Ill stick by breaking the myth that a kingpin axle is not good for a street driven rig and throwing the "make it or break it" myth out the window.
And its way more fun with a motor! :driver:
 
Mac5005 said:
My point is this:

When the UA was in it's infancy, the common tire size was 35-37" which is doable for the same rigs that are not often trailered to their destinations.

Now the tire companies are creating specific set of tires just for the UA and giving them out for publicity for the the competitors to run. Now the common is 39-42" size in the UA.

When you look at the common rigs out on the trails, running 39-42" tires, arguably half of them are running stickys and most of them are trailered there.

Sure I would drive 1000 miles if I had a big name sponsoring me and giving me parts and tires for the trip. My rig is street legal and could be done, just air up and pull the drive slug. To me it's not worth it for he investment I've made in the rig.

My whole point is, both the TTC and the UA are not realistic to what is commonly being wheeled with anymore.

After having dding my jeep for years, driving to wheeling spots, and now trailering. It is far less stressful and more fun to go out and wheel and if somethjng breaks, to put it on the trailer and fix it that night, or take it home. Either way, I'm making it back in time to go to work on Monday, without the stress of locating parts and fixing it just to make it back home...

I other words I miss the real truck challenge...
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I agree with you except for one point. Common rigs are not running 39's or larger. The masses are still running 35'ish tires. That is the offroad market, folks that want a bigger tire but is still street friendly. For the one person that is running stickies, there are 20 that dont (i made that statistic up but you get the point). Folks that trailer and do the extreme trails are the minority in the world of offroading.
 
Black Bear said:
I agree with you except for one point. Common rigs are not running 39's or larger. The masses are still running 35'ish tires. That is the offroad market, folks that want a bigger tire but is still street friendly. For the one person that is running stickies, there are 20 that dont (i made that statistic up but you get the point). Folks that trailer and do the extreme trails are the minority in the world of offroading.
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I Completely agree after more thoughts. My opinion comes from what I see on the trails which is not a representation of the whole. It's by far the minority.

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I wish there were more rigs in UA with dot 35's and 8.8 d30 combos.

And I wish for the TTC to be less 54's and turbo big blocks and snorkels. and more full frame toy/jeep crawlers on 42's.

I'm waiting for one of the mega trucks to smoke the TTC.

Tbh, I really don't follow either anymore since most grocery stores stopped carrying the magazines.
 
Black Bear said:
Im game for an adventure. Mid summer / fall that will allow me some time to recoup from my spring adventure.
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Plan it! I would do it in my TJ baring work schedule, and other commitments (May and June are out with a huge project go live for us, and likely a few other times this year). I drive mine to everything now anyways (it would probably need a new set of 35s for the trip though), more people would come if we had trailers, we can skip URE though!
 
DSM Turbos said:
Plan it! I would do it in my TJ baring work schedule, and other commitments (May and June are out with a huge project go live for us, and likely a few other times this year). I drive mine to everything now anyways (it would probably need a new set of 35s for the trip though), more people would come if we had trailers, we can skip URE though!
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Whats a matter with URE? Cant keep up?


Top gear rules apply, if you break down your left for dead?
 
Fullsize spare tire, winch, tools and Pirate code!
 
Black Bear said:
Whats a matter with URE? Cant keep up?


Top gear rules apply, if you break down your left for dead?
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Just would rather hit some places I haven't been and spend more time at them then at URE that any random weekend I could go if I wanted to. I can't take the same lines as some of you, but that isn't the worry!

I would say everybody tries to stick together and help broken people if they can, but at the same point, if you aren't ready by the time we head to the next place that is on the schedule, you are done.
 
A guy from the east coast drove to Hollister Hills on 44" Boggers to compete in 1997. Would have won if he hadn't dropped a rod, had to rebuild, and missed the first day and a half or so.

I'd say there's not an event like this more local is because....well, where would it be held? They definitely use the lay of the land to their advantage. I do wish they'd cap the tire size though. 44s max!
 
Mac5005 said:
1) harlan
2) windrock
3) coal creek
4) golden mountain
5) grey rock
6) gulches to finish it up.
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^ this would be fun.

Windrock and Coal Creek are the same place.

How about:

1. The Flats
2. Harlan
3. Windrock
4. Golden Mountain
5. Grey Rock
6. Gulches

3-4 hours between parks.........
 
dash said:
^ this would be fun.

Windrock and Coal Creek are the same place.

How about:

1. The Flats
2. Harlan
3. Windrock
4. Golden Mountain
5. Grey Rock
6. Gulches

3-4 hours between parks.........
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Ah. Even better. Thanks for correcting me.

I thought there was another park within 1.5 hr west north west from windrock.

I think the challenge is to find a group guide for each park that knows what trails to run and in what order. Not knowing what to run and what to skip and not back tracking can save a bunch of time.

Example @harlan:

We start out and run trails in this order.

Pinball
Railbed
Fish fossil
Lower rock garden
Killin time
Lower profanity
Upper profanity
Grape vine
Middle rock garden
Mason jar
And then go look at lions den.

That's a good day of wheeling, usually break for lunch at middle rock garden and are done before dark if no major breakage.

Having never been to all of those places and wanting to do a trip to all of them at once, efficient leadership at each park would be crucial.

I think work together as group to fix broken items fast and keep moving. If parts can't be found to fix or can't be fixed then get them off the trail and then see you later.
 
Why not hold an event similar to TTC on the right coast. Harlan would be awesome. You could stay low on the mountain and still have plenty of obstacles for everyone to destroy their rigs on.
 
I was looking at some of the older UA routes. They alternated road days and trail days. Some of the road days were 300mi or more. That makes John's idea about Harlan ->Hatfield -> Rausch viable.

Golden Mountain is fun, but it's sort of like a great big version of the Flats. Ride over here, do this obstacle, ride over there, do that one, run back to camp for a snack, etc. Very different than Harlan or Windrock, where you can get very lost.
 
shawn said:
I was looking at some of the older UA routes. They alternated road days and trail days. Some of the road days were 300mi or more. That makes John's idea about Harlan ->Hatfield -> Rausch viable.

Golden Mountain is fun, but it's sort of like a great big version of the Flats. Ride over here, do this obstacle, ride over there, do that one, run back to camp for a snack, etc. Very different than Harlan or Windrock, where you can get very lost.
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Hatfield to Rausch is 5.5 hours of highway driving, Rausch to Charlotte is 9 hours.

If your destinations are 3-ish hour drives apart you can get more wheelin time in and less pavement pounding.

Start at park"A" at 8am, wheel till 3pm, drive to park "B", get there at 7pm, pitch a tent, wheel park "B" at 8am till 3pm..............rinse and repeat??
 
dash said:
^ this would be fun.

Windrock and Coal Creek are the same place.

How about:

1. The Flats
2. Harlan
3. Windrock
4. Golden Mountain
5. Grey Rock
6. Gulches

3-4 hours between parks.........
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Or

Harlan
windrock
royal blue
golden mnt
grey rock.

There is also a place near royal blue,called the mines or something,but I think its invite only.Jellico is also only about an hour from RB.Id probably be down for where ever but goin to rausch would be a stretch for me.
 
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