Damage to my property via neighbor

[89wrangler]

Please follow up on here as it progresses. Curious to see how it turns out.

Ditto. Also I bet the water has cleared up as well. Every clear creek and river I know of looked just like yours after that rain, even part of the lake. Happens ever time. I do think something needs done with the drainage.

 

[hunterdan]

Ditto. Also I bet the water has cleared up as well. Every clear creek and river I know of looked just like yours after that rain, even part of the lake. Happens ever time. I do think something needs done with the drainage.

I've tried to explain that I understand what's normal and what's not on MY land. One pic shoes my shoe print...if I.hadnt been holding a branch I would have sunk to my crotch.
Another pic is a wider angle and all the earth you see is NEW.
Other pic shows what it did look like minus the staining on rocks and such.

 

[Ron]

Have you talked to anyone at NCFS or erosion control yet?

 

[hunterdan]

Have you talked to anyone at NCFS or erosion control yet?

Not yet it's been hectic for a few days. Probably Monday...

 

[89wrangler]

I've tried to explain that I understand what's normal and what's not on MY land. One pic shoes my shoe print...if I.hadnt been holding a branch I would have sunk to my crotch.
Another pic is a wider angle and all the earth you see is NEW.
Other pic shows what it did look like minus the staining on rocks and such.

I see what you about the silt now. Thanks for the clarification. I would definitely contact the erosion control folks.

 

[rockcity]

And by the pictures, looks like you have iron oxidizing bacteria.

 

[hunterdan]

And by the pictures, looks like you have iron oxidizing bacteria.

It wasn't here before. I read a bit about it after your comment. Do you suppose the new grading oxygenated it along with more rapid flow?

 

[rockcity]

It wasn't here before. I read a bit about it after your comment. Do you suppose the new grading oxygenated it along with more rapid flow?

its possible. I see it a lot in “polluted” streams. But, it’s natural and also occurs in drinking water wells. Not harmful to people but mostly a nuisance. If it’s there now and not before, then something changed. Levels of iron could be elevated or oxygen, or both. It is possible the silted soil has elevated levels of iron for the bacteria and now turning the stream red.

Edit: to be fair I’m around a lot of “polluted” water more often than not. So my correlation between the bacteria and polluted water may very well skewed.

 

[awheelterd]

Iron bacteria is 100% normal. I have it in my well and in wetlands around my property. It comes and goes in my ditch in front of my house. There is a wet spot at the front of one of my fields that drains into the road ditch and certain times of the year the ditch is green from algae and other times it's red from iron bacteria.

 

[hunterdan]

its possible. I see it a lot in “polluted” streams. But, it’s natural and also occurs in drinking water wells. Not harmful to people but mostly a nuisance. If it’s there now and not before, then something changed. Levels of iron could be elevated or oxygen, or both. It is possible the silted soil has elevated levels of iron for the bacteria and now turning the stream red.

Edit: to be fair I’m around a lot of “polluted” water more often than not. So my correlation between the bacteria and polluted water may very well skewed.

I don't believe pollution was a problem before but now...maybe. Water was coming from a spring across the highway about 200' in some older growth woods. It goes under the road and crosses my land. Now due to neighbor diverting road ditch about 3/4 mile of rd run off is joining the spring water and crossing my land. Hopefully, neighbors issue will be corrected and that will fix the silt/flow/bacteria.

 

[Macdaddy4738]

Logging operations are generally exempt from erosion control requirements. However, that only applies to logging operations and supporting activities (temp roads, etc). This does not apply to activities beyond typical logging activities, which very likely includes construction of the permanent road or grading beyond what’s necessary for logging operations. Many “logging” operations try to fly under the radar by doing grading work and permanent road building under their logging exemption; most get away with it because others don’t know the rules and unless someone complains, there really isn’t anyone out there policing it.

Forestry does require BMPs to be implemented to help control the sedimentation runoff. They are expected to do something. The NC Forest Service manages logging operation compliance but NCDEQ also manages these issues and can impose NOVs, etc.

This is absolutely correct. During my time in local government, in a county that is largely supported economically by the lumber and logging industry, I fielded a lot of complaints about this exact situation. I went up the ladder to NCDEQ but never got anywhere. The response was always "oh, logging is exempt, nothing I can do!".

I did find that if they did the logging coupled with any sort of development plan (subdivision, commercial building projects, etc.) they can get hit with violations for that because that type of work does require a soil erosion plan. If it's just simply for logging purposes though, good luck.

FWIW, I understand that most of the larger logging companies here are pretty receptive to fixing things if asked.

 

[89wrangler]

Was there anything resolved on this. I now have the same issue. Folks down the road are putting in a modular in the woods, now my stream, which used to be clear and you could see the rock and sand iaa well as the minnows is now FULL of mud and silt. Needless to say I am pissed.

 

[GMAC]

We share a pond with 2 neighbors, on the outside of us 3 a house is bein built, they jacked up our pond the same way. Neighbor closest is a contractor and is handling the issues. They quickly built a silt “Fence” as he called it but it was too late, he’s still dealing with it

 

[LT1JEEP]

Was there anything resolved on this. I now have the same issue. Folks down the road are putting in a modular in the woods, now my stream, which used to be clear and you could see the rock and sand iaa well as the minnows is now FULL of mud and silt. Needless to say I am pissed.
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Get you few bales of hay and make a silt dam at the start of your property to block the sand and it will keep it out of your streams while they are doing work on their property. You will have to clean it out every once and while.
At the end of my property i dug a big hole in the ditch so the silt can collect so i can clean it out before mud and silt goes past my property so my Neibers can't complain.
Have you tried to talk to the people yet and let them know what they are doing