UTfball68
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The point when a thread has fully run its course
The epideomiological data is pretty clear - areas where mask wearing is prevelant have lower ratesof breakout. The degree to which it "work" on any one individual level is always debateable and never perfect, but en masse it matters.
Examples:
https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.2020.00818
(PDF) Association of country-wide coronavirus mortality with demographics, testing, lockdowns, and public wearing of masks (Update June 15, 2020).
(I like thsi one b/c they show that widespread mask wearing would be more effective than a shutdown)
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2004.13553.pdf
No, you're drawing causality from a purely correlational relationship with no factor to connect them in that way.By that logic, Democrats cause CV deaths because the states with (D) leaders have higher death rates per capita.
No, you're drawing causality from a purely correlational relationship with no factor to connect them in that way.
Now why would I do that for you?Now take it one more step.....
Here is my question, and this is strictly just to understand and not to pass judgment on anyone. But other than having a medical condition that doesn't allow you to wear a mask or wear a mask for an extended period of time, why do folks have such an issue with wearing a mask?
I get that a lot of people feel that it infringes on your rights and you shouldn't be told what to do and what not to do and I totally get that, but if wearing a mask when you are out in public will hopefully get us to a point where we can return back to "normal", then what's the big deal? I mean, I hate wearing them. I have to wear one at work all day and it sucks, but how can I complain about the numbers steadily rising if I am not doing my part to help curb it?
You got to do what you believe. Scientific fact says all the masks that you see do is keep some droplets contained when someone sneezes into the mask. The normal virus particle will pass right through the masks you see out there except an N95 mask and those won't help anyone except the wearer as the N95 is a direct exhaust mask.
And yet there's a whole lot of science disagreeing with you...
If the virus is droplet transmitted, and the masks limit droplet passage, then how does that not limit transmission of the virus?
I feel like we've been through this already.
See also: cross fitters/ vegans.
What about pants?
How come nobody is jumping up and down about anti-nudity laws and running around pantsless what it's so damn hot? Why isn't that a major infringeent on your rights and being told what to do?
I guess where I am at with this whole thing is, where do you draw the line in choosing not to wear a mask because (Insert reason here) and potentially keeping someone else from getting it if you just so happen to be Asymptomatic or keeping yourself from getting it because someone else who has it decided not to wear a mask as well for whatever reason?
This may all end on Nov 5th, but it might not. I just can't take a chance on this all being a hoax.
Well, I guess I wear a mask not for myself but for my wife, my mom, my mother in law and for you. I'm not afraid of everything and feel like I need to be in a bubble so that the bad virus doesn't get me. I would feel horrible if I knew I was going out in public places and didn't try to protect myself and then went around my family/friends/whatever and they ended up getting it because of my negligence... Not saying people who choose not to wear a mask are wrong or should be punished, just how I feel. In the beginning, I was against wearing masks... thought it was stupid and a waste of time, but then I realized that wearing a mask was a small price to pay for my loved ones.If you're afraid of it, take whatever precautions you deem reasonable. I don't conceal carry to protect anyone else, I do it for myself. If you feel a mask is protecting you, wear one...if you don't, don't. If you wanna wear a hazmat suit...go for it, that's your prerogative. If you wanna remain locked down in your house, you do you. Just let me make own decisions.
Well, I guess I wear a mask not for myself but for my wife, my mom, my mother in law and for you. I'm not afraid of everything and feel like I need to be in a bubble so that the bad virus doesn't get me. I would feel horrible if I knew I was going out in public places and didn't try to protect myself and then went around my family/friends/whatever and they ended up getting it because of my negligence... Not saying people who choose not to wear a mask are wrong or should be punished, just how I feel. In the beginning, I was against wearing masks... thought it was stupid and a waste of time, but then I realized that wearing a mask was a small price to pay for my loved ones.
And I bet you really conceal carry for not only yourself, but also for your family and for any person who is being harmed.
People don't get to make their own decision about wearing seatbelts...
I make the decision to not wear one in my personal vehicles every since I got my license in 1990. I have gotten lots of speeding tickets and moving violations but never gotten a seat belt ticket. I always wear one when I’m on the trails and when I’m in my work truck.People don't get to make their own decision about wearing seatbelts...
Y U no make sense?I make the decision to not wear one in my personal vehicles every since I got my license in 1990. I have gotten lots of speeding tickets and moving violations but never gotten a seat belt ticket. I always wear one when I’m on the trails and when I’m in my work truck.
Offroad parks and the club require seatbelts so that’s why I wear one on the trails and AT&T pays me to wear one.Y U no make sense?
I make the decision to not wear one in my personal vehicles every since I got my license in 1990. I have gotten lots of speeding tickets and moving violations but never gotten a seat belt ticket. I always wear one when I’m on the trails and when I’m in my work truck.
I guess back in my younger ticket getting days I was doing something so stupid or dangerous in their eyes they were so pissed they couldn’t see the no seatbelt violation. Now I drive like I have some sense about me and don’t even flinch for a blue light on my tail. If I get a seatbelt ticket I’ll pay it and continue to not wear it.I quit wearing mine the summer after high school when I got a job delivering pizza and had to get in and out of my car 100 times every night. 12 years later at the age of 30 I got pulled by a state trooper for not wearing my seat belt and he gave me a $75 ticket. I've been wearing it ever since.
What if you got in an accident and were thrown through the windshield and lived...would you wear one then?I guess back in my younger ticket getting days I was doing something so stupid or dangerous in their eyes they were so pissed they couldn’t see the no seatbelt violation. Now I drive like I have some sense about me and don’t even flinch for a blue light on my tail. If I get a seatbelt ticket I’ll pay it and continue to not wear it.
What if you got in an accident and were thrown through the windshield and lived...would you wear one then?
If he lived...wouldn't that justify his reasoning for NOT wearing one.
Lived but paralyzed?
No, because if he had been wearing a seatbelt, he probably wouldn't have been hurled through said windshield and if he had died, well... a seatbelt really isn't going to come into play anymore now is it?If he lived...wouldn't that justify his reasoning for NOT wearing one.