Epoxy tables and whatnot

McCracken

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Anybody have experience with this? I get on these kicks where I want to try and build/ make something new to me. I've got a buddy that each year we make something for each other as a Christmas gift. I'm a little late to the party this year but I'd like to try and squeeze one more project in before the official exchange.

I've seen a lot of these epoxy type projects on the internet but it seems to always be the same three things. Table slab with open spaces, a chunk of wood turned into a ring, or they make a guitar with it. Cool in some regards but I was hoping for some more info. Are there better epoxies than others? What do you polish the end product with? Stuff like that.

Anybody have any experience willing to share?
 
I’ve piddled with them a little bit. Made a handful of tables, some coasters with wood chunks in them an other stuff. There’s a ton of different epoxys out there, myself I like Total Boats stuff. They have a Thickset epoxy that you can pour 1 inch thick at one time vs others that do 1/8. I’ve never polished my stuff, I’ve seen some that cut an buff like you would a cars clear coat using 3m polishes. Hope it helps if you like more info shoot me a Pm with your number
 
[tabletop epoxy brain dump]

Most of the tabletop epoxies are just high clarity epoxy chemistries, and are lower cost chemistries so they're fairly affordable ($60/gallon or whatever is pretty cheap for epoxy), but are have relatively low physical properties.
The coating thickness recommendations are to make it easy to get bubbles out, and also to control exotherm (heat release) during curing. Slower setting epoxies can be cast in greater thicknesses because the exotherm is lower and easier to control, and ambient temperature affects that as well (cold air, cold epoxy, cold materials, etc). Materials that conduct heat will also allow greater pour thicknesses, instead of materials that are good thermal insulators like wood. Basically, thickness is a recommendation and not an absolute.

Follow the instructions about time between pours, because waiting too long between consecutive pours could make problems with optical clarity and prevent proper crosslinking between coats (waiting too long can cause imperfect results, basically). Most of these products are formulated to be pretty foolproof, so that's a plus.

Following mixing ratios is important too, but again they are formulated to be semi-foolproof so there is a fudge factor for volume ratio. Get graduated mixing cups, like the ones used for mixing automotive paint.
Do at least one small test batch and let it cure fully, because you want to make sure that your method for measuring and your method for mixing the components together are both effective before actually pouring epoxy onto something important.

I use a cheap heat gun for bubbles, because it makes a lot of heat without a lot of airflow, which generally works better than a hair dryer. The people that do epoxy pouring a lot will often vacuum de-gas the epoxy before pouring, but that requires a vac chamber and a vacuum pump. Gets rid of a lot of headaches though, if you're frequently pouring a lot of epoxy. Following recommendations for waiting a certain amount of time after mixing (before pouring) can also help control bubbles, as you can let them settle out in the mixing cup instead of in the work piece.

You can only effectively get down to a certain depth to get out bubbles when using a heat gun, which again is one of the reasons that most epoxies don't recommend a very thick pour at once.

Epoxy viscosity has a lot to do with trapped bubbles as well, for obvious reasons. Think of bubbles in water versus bubbles in honey, etc.

I actually have a lot of fun playing with those types of epoxies, because they're waaaaay easier to use (and cheaper) than the epoxy adhesives and coatings I usually play with at work and while doing composites projects. Sometimes it's just fun to mix two things together and do something cool with it, without turning it into a scientific process and getting out scales for ratio measurement.

This stuff is actually easy to use, I just want you to know why the instructions tell you to do something. It's always better that way, instead of blindly following instructions and thinking "well, they told me to do it this way, and they must have a reason for it"... ;)


Some people may already know that I'm a little bit of an adhesives nerd.... :D

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Just finished this tonight.

Butcher block with epoxy.

Pour, scrape it out with 1/8” or 1/4” square notch trowel. Hit with propane torch to pop bubbles.

The bubbles pop like a soda fizzing. 3 passes popping bubbles, 5 mins between each pass.

I poured first coat at 3/32-1/8” thick. Used a quart of product for this thickness on 22.5” c 80” piece. Waited 5 hours and poured the flood coat at 1/4” thick. That was about 1.5 quart pour.

In all, about 2.5 quarts of product used from the gallon kit.

It has a super high gloss luster as poured.

Had an area that some light dust fell in.

Wet sanded with 1000, 1500, 2000, 3000, 5000 then polished with 3 step griot pad and compound. Same process as auto clear coat.

Just had to wait a week for it to cure hard enough to do that. Completely wasn’t necessary, but i wanted to try it.

I really like using it. This was my first time.

Also make sure you slab is perfectly level before you pour, or it won’t self level evenly.

I used the square notch plastic trowel and let it level itself from that.

Check out stone coat countertops on YouTube for instruction and explanation on how to do it. Made me way more confident to be willing to attempt it.

I used the Lowe’s gallon kit, mixed at 1:1

Mixed with drill on low speed. Had a ton of bubbles, didn’t really matter the propane torch makes them vanish instantly. The instructions were very detailed and accurate. Mix until the temp reaches 90° then pour. Keep the surface temp between 70° and 120° for 5 hours. Dust free in 8 hours, fully cured in 72hrs. One week before it was hard enough to really cut and buff.
 
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Just finished this tonight.

Butcher block with epoxy.

Pour, scrape it out with 1/8” or 1/4” square notch trowel. Hit with propane torch to pop bubbles.

The bubbles pop like a soda fizzing. 3 passes popping bubbles, 5 mins between each pass.

I poured first coat at 3/32-1/8” thick. Used a quart of product for this thickness on 22.5” c 80” piece. Waited 5 hours and poured the flood coat at 1/4” thick. That was about 1.5 quart pour.

In all, about 2.5 quarts of product used from the gallon kit.

It has a super high gloss luster as poured.

Had an area that some light dust fell in.

Wet sanded with 1000, 1500, 2000, 3000, 5000 then polished with 3 step griot pad and compound. Same process as auto clear coat.

Just had to wait a week for it to cure hard enough to do that. Completely wasn’t necessary, but i wanted to try it.

I really like using it. This was my first time.

Also make sure you slab is perfectly level before you pour, or it won’t self level evenly.

I used the square notch plastic trowel and let it level itself from that.

Check out stone coat countertops on YouTube for instruction and explanation on how to do it. Made me way more confident to be willing to attempt it.

I used the Lowe’s gallon kit, mixed at 1:1

Mixed with drill on low speed. Had a ton of bubbles, didn’t really matter the propane torch makes them vanish instantly. The instructions were very detailed and accurate. Mix until the temp reaches 90° then pour. Keep the surface temp between 70° and 120° for 5 hours. Dust free in 8 hours, fully cured in 72hrs. One week before it was hard enough to really cut and buff.

I assume that you dammed the edges of the butcher block, if you did a 1/4 inch flood coat?
 
I assume that you dammed the edges of the butcher block, if you did a 1/4 inch flood coat?

Nope, just spread it all evenly without pushing a ton over the edge. Then poured extra right on the corner to get it run over, and down evenly.

After 2nd torch pass, as it starts setting & forming up, I trickled an even small stream from mixing bucket along the top edge of extreme corner. This built up the corner more, rather than have it run completely off.

The final surface of top is about 2x thick as the edges. Doesn’t really matter to me, and it’s hardly noticeable.

As far as leveling the edges, just wiped with my glove hand to smooth and even what ran down vertically. The square trowel doesnt work on vertical surfaces. It created a hanging curtain of epoxy, that looked like a saw tooth pattern.

I noticed that quickly, dipped my glove in the pour bucket remnants and wiped the edges down.

After about 2 hours, I took plastic scraper, to the bottom underside of edge to remove the drips. Soft enough to scrape off, but solid enough to not make a huge mess.

Another note about this. The run off and drips from the flood coat, make a mess on the floor. So either protect the floor, or do it somewhere the run off doesn’t matter.

This is why you see the pros on YouTube pouring epoxy on a table larger than the slab, with standoffs that put the slab perfectly level. The run off collects on the table below, and doesn’t affect the stand off heights.

The stonecoat countertop kit, has a much longer working time vs the Lowe’s kit.

I’d say 2 hours vs 20mins, but full cure time before sanding on the stone coat kit is 30 days vs 7 days on the Lowe’s kit.

Definitely keep the torch 6-8” above the surface for popping bubbles. Any closer and the flame pressure starts to move the product around. This can be beneficial if you have a stubborn area that doesn’t want to self level.

Also after about 15 mins, if you have any defects, you can trickle some epoxy out of the mixing cup as it starts to set up, and fix any spots. Use the torch to force it to self level. Works great. Had a knot hole that kept drinking epoxy, and up until about 45 mins after pour, I could keep adding the semi set mixture to this small dime size area with good result.

If you get the torch too close, you will see some light smoke, and the surface will haze over white. Immediately get the torch away. It fixed itself thru the cure. Haha

I made that mistake chasing a piece of dust, that I thought was a bubble in the first coat. Can’t even notice it after the second coat.

I used an infrared propane patio style heater to keep the slab warm in my shop during curing. Also had a propane blast style heater keeping air temps between 70-80 for the first 5 hours.

My dust problem fell off the top reflective hat of the patio heater when I bumped it.
 
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