Illegal wheeling at URE ?

RAW is notorious for illegal wheeling. Ive called out some of my own friends for riding power lines with them recently! They have learned not to post anything publicly, but I know for a fact that some of them still do illegal wheeling.
 
K-Rover1 said:
RAW is notorious for illegal wheeling. Ive called out some of my own friends for riding power lines with them recently! They have learned not to post anything publicly, but I know for a fact that some of them still do illegal wheeling.
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I think it would be a good idea to post said proof with this accusation.
 
K-Rover1 said:
RAW is notorious for illegal wheeling. Ive called out some of my own friends for riding power lines with them recently! They have learned not to post anything publicly, but I know for a fact that some of them still do illegal wheeling.
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Mental note, never befriend Rover1 and share any good secrets.
 
K-Rover1 said:
I have better things to do than dig through facebook posts and pictures... Its all there if you know where to look.
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Then why call him out if you can post said facts?
 
Hey John, I suppose this isnt you riding power line trails?... Im not interested in getting into an argument here. Someone wanted proof.. well there it is.
 

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K-Rover1 said:
Hey John, I suppose this isnt you riding power line trails?... Im not interested in getting into an argument here. Someone wanted proof.. well there it is.
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Yea but when you get permission from Duke energy that's no longer trespassing. So no noting illegal there.... Keep looking
 
Jrmudder92 said:
Yea but when you get permission from Duke energy that's no longer trespassing. So no noting illegal there.... Keep looking
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Yeah, but Duke doesn't own the land, they just have an easement for a specific purpose (placement of transmission lines, and maintenance thereof). So, unless you have *written* permission from Duke (doubtful) and all landowners whose land you cross, it is still illegal.
 
kaiser715 said:
Yeah, but Duke doesn't own the land, they just have an easement for a specific purpose (placement of transmission lines, and maintenance thereof). So, unless you have *written* permission from Duke (doubtful) and all landowners whose land you cross, it is still illegal.
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Wrong my grad-dad was a big wig up there! So I get singed papers ever time. Where this is no property line They are the real owners of this they bought it out are theres no other people one of the few place like that tho
 
Papers from Duke or not, if you are on *private* land without permission (Duke has permission for a specific purpose), you are trespassing. You are not a Duke employee or contractor, performing maintenance, you do not belong there.

If your grand dad is giving you 'permission', even written, even on Duke paper, that means that Duke is taking responsibility (and liability) for anything that you do, or happens to you, while on their easement. I doubt their legal department is willing to accept that.

edit....a challenge...my email is dp (at) sanlee (dot) com Scan and send me a copy of your "permission" from Duke. I'd like to see that.
 
Jrmudder92 said:
Wrong my grad-dad was a big wig up there! So I get singed papers ever time. Where this is no property line They are the real owners of this they bought it out are theres no other people one of the few place like that tho
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Sigh so much web drama.
How about this. Just post up an address we will pull up the parcel info online and if it shows Duke as the owner everyone will provide a public apology. If not you will publically admit to trespassing. BTW, if your grandad gave you unauthorized permissionhe is risking his employment or pension.
 
kaiser715 said:
Papers from Duke or not, if you are on *private* land without permission (Duke has permission for a specific purpose), you are trespassing. You are not a Duke employee or contractor, performing maintenance, you do not belong there.

If your grand dad is giving you 'permission', even written, even on Duke paper, that means that Duke is taking responsibility (and liability) for anything that you do, or happens to you, while on their easement. I doubt their legal department is willing to accept that.

edit....a challenge...my email is dp (at) sanlee (dot) com Scan and send me a copy of your "permission" from Duke. I'd like to see that.
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Ron said:
Sigh so much web drama.
How about this. Just post up an address we will pull up the parcel info online and if it shows Duke as the owner everyone will provide a public apology. If not you will publically admit to trespassing. BTW, if your grandad gave you unauthorized permissionhe is risking his employment or pension.
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Okay this thred is going down hill way to fast... For the sake of this thread and sh!t sure I was "trespassing" I I'm tired of all this bs and drama we just need to close this shit and call it done... My grand-dad die no one left to take it so it went back to duke... Like 91k5... "group hug"
 
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Jrmudder92 said:
Okay this thred is going down hill way to fast... For the sake of this thread and sh!t sure I was "trespassing" I I'm tired of all this bs and drama we just need to close this shit and call it done... My grand-dad die no one left to take it so it went back to duke
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No one? Why did you not aquire it?
 
I hate to say this but I think you are lieing.

Jrmudder92 said:
Wrong my grad-dad was a big wig up there! So I get singed papers ever time. Where this is no property line They are the real owners of this they bought it out are theres no other people one of the few place like that tho
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Jrmudder92 said:
Okay this thred is going down hill way to fast... For the sake of this thread and sh!t sure I was "trespassing" I I'm tired of all this bs and drama we just need to close this shit and call it done... My grand-dad die no one left to take it so it went back to duke... Like 91k5... "group hug"
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Grandpa was a big wig at Duke so Duke gives you permission.
(Sorry son, Duke Energy is a publically traded company. That aint how it works.)
Next Did Duke buy the land, or was there no one left to take it so it went back.

Ever heard the Bearenstein Bears and the Soccer ball bird?

Given RAW sketchy past (remember this is the group that "tagged" rocks at URE) and their repeated public support of illegal wheeling I think the message is loud and clear.
 
Ron said:
I hate to say this but I think you are lieing.
Grandpa was a big wig at Duke so Duke gives you permission.
(Sorry son, Duke Energy is a publically traded company. That aint how it works.)
Next Did Duke buy the land, or was there no one left to take it so it went back.

Ever heard the Bearenstein Bears and the Soccer ball bird?

Given RAW sketchy past (remember this is the group that "tagged" rocks at URE) and their repeated public support of illegal wheeling I think the message is loud and clear.
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Yes im am! Im not even a member of raw never been out with them except once
 
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I am going thru a "muddled" estate right now (as administrator/personal rep). In situations where there is no appointed (by will) administrator, or identifiable heirs, there is a very clear process and procedure in the law to determine rightful control of the estate, and rightful ownership of any property. The kind of stuff a first-year lawyer can do. (or even me, doing it myself, with with guidance, for the most part). Property doesn't just "go back" to a lessor (Duke, whose interest in the property is only for one controlled purpose).

If what you say is true, y'all got royally screwed by an incompetent lawyer, and ought to pursue it. (E&O, state bar, etc).
 
kaiser715 said:
I am going thru a "muddled" estate right now (as administrator/personal rep). In situations where there is no appointed (by will) administrator, or identifiable heirs, there is a very clear process and procedure in the law to determine rightful control of the estate, and rightful ownership of any property. The kind of stuff a first-year lawyer can do. (or even me, doing it myself, with with guidance, for the most part). Property doesn't just "go back" to a lessor (Duke, whose interest in the property is only for one controlled purpose).

If what you say is true, y'all got royally screwed by an incompetent lawyer, and ought to pursue it. (E&O, state bar, etc).
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Well F@ck me side ways next time i'm hiring you next time. I had no clue about that. Danggg :/
 
I am calling bullshit on the property.



K-Rover1 said:
Hey John, I suppose this isnt you riding power line trails?... Im not interested in getting into an argument here. Someone wanted proof.. well there it is.
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And for this guy... Nobody likes a rat....



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Bet they are "X" lovers.:gay:
 
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