Inground lift

GotWood said:
Bottom line. John doesn't own it, he leases it. Whatever happens doesn't put John in any situation other than having to move.
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Except....

marty79 said:
I am leasing it for now till I build up my credit to buy it
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He says one thing, then two-steps around it when approached about it later.

It'd be different if this was the first time that's happened. However, the reason I clicked the thread to begin with was because I knew he said what I just quoted and like a trainwreck..I couldn't stay away from filming it with my phone. Same reason ANY of us clicked it
 
CasterTroy said:
says one thing, then two-steps around it when approached about it later.
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Could've been more clear, was referring to buying the house so my rent/mortgage would be cheaper than paying him rent but will be awhile before I get ready and who knows by then what will come of all this
 
CasterTroy said:
Except....




He says one thing, then two-steps around it when approached about it later.

It'd be different if this was the first time that's happened. However, the reason I clicked the thread to begin with was because I knew he said what I just quoted and like a trainwreck..I couldn't stay away from filming it with my phone. Same reason ANY of us clicked it
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To be fair, this is like the 10th perfect place he has found since he joined the board.
He was going to keep everyone of those jobs and houses forever as soon as he fixed his credit, or something.
And in every case, through absolutely zero fault of his own, there has been a villain who popped up to ruin the day who was totally at fault despite John doing everything perfect.

Just bad luck, you know?
 
Ron said:
To be fair, this is like the 10th perfect place he has found since he joined the board.
He was going to keep everyone of those jobs and houses forever as soon as he fixed his credit, or something.
And in every case, through absolutely zero fault of his own, there has been a villain who popped up to ruin the day who was totally at fault despite John doing everything perfect.

Just bad luck, you know?
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I solved the riddle much earlier in the thread ;)
jeepinmatt said:
Most of these types of failures are attributed to operator incompetence...
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On topic of inground lifts. I used them for many years since 3 of the dealers I worked at were built in the 1930's up to the 1960's. They absolutely suck for anything aside from changing oil. You can't lock them at brake repair height, the center post gets in the way of anything tranny or t case related and they create a constant leak source.
Twin post in ground lifts are dangerous as hell. If one cylinder goes up at a different speed than the other, you risk the vehicle falling off the lift. Plus, the lack of adjustment makes lifting many vehicles a chore.
Really, they're no better than a set of jackstands unless you're all the way up and the center lock is in place.
 
rockcity said:
If it’s like any of the others I’ve seen, it changes it’s hydraulic oil by leaking into the ground and you constantly have to keep adding and adding. Most shops I’ve seen have switched to the 2 post lifts.

if you are buying the property, be sure the oil hasn’t leaked into the ground and groundwater because you will be buying the environmental issue along with it.
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When I was looking for a shop, a friend who is an environmental engineer told me if it had an in ground lift, walk away. He said he'd never seen one that hadn't contaminated the soil.
 
Blaze said:
When I was looking for a shop, a friend who is an environmental engineer told me if it had an in ground lift, walk away. He said he'd never seen one that hadn't contaminated the soil.
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The current Rotary stuff comes with a completely enclosed poly tank (around everything below ground) to contain fluid leaks, and a leak detection system, and bio-based hydraulic fluids. Sounds like they all leak, eventually.

The Nussbaum stuff is fully contained too, and they join the two tubes together so they're synchronized and can't rotate. I'm assuming the Rotary stuff does similar/same things because they're both at the top of their industry (Nussbaum primarily in Europe).
 
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Ron said:
To be fair, this is like the 10th perfect place he has found since he joined the board.
He was going to keep everyone of those jobs and houses forever as soon as he fixed his credit, or something.
And in every case, through absolutely zero fault of his own, there has been a villain who popped up to ruin the day who was totally at fault despite John doing everything perfect.

Just bad luck, you know?
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Yep,always the victim.I have a very lo tolerance for shit like that.Make your own decisions,suffer the consequences (if any) and quit asking for advise you're not gonna take.
 
Fabrik8 said:
The current Rotary stuff comes with a completely enclosed poly tank (around everything below ground) to contain fluid leaks, and a leak detection system, and bio-based hydraulic fluids. Sounds like they all leak, eventually.

The Nussbaum stuff is fully contained too, and they join the two tubes together so they're synchronized and can't rotate. I'm assuming the Rotary stuff does similar/same things because they're both at the top of their industry (Nussbaum primarily in Europe).
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This is how my buddy's is. It's a two post. Saw pics of it going in, it's all a single casing that has a hard plastic shell. Some kind of a pump or flat thing in the bottom, not sure if thats for detecting a leak or reciculation or what.
His you can stop in any position/height. I don't know if there is a manual mechanical lock on top of that, but he's used it at several different heights/ Dude was a master Toy mechanic for like 20 years and is super responsible with safety.
No idea how the two posts are connected but it's not something he seems at all worried about. But he has full access to the undercarriange and full arms he can use or not use so it is almost flush to the ground.
 
I used to work for an environmental group that did this kind of work. It can be very costly for the owner(s) and take a lot of time to fix. You have to dig every bit of soil out that shows contamination and even then you have to take more samples of "clean" dirt for confirmation. I remember one job where a leak from a gas tank at an old service station hit the cobble layer and ran. Those poor assholes...

As for dip shit, I hate to say I agree with him but I do. His "partner" has accepted the risk and the deal is done. Nothing to do now but plow ahead. I can't wait to see what the next episode has to offer six months from now.
 
McCracken said:
As for dip shit, I hate to say I agree with him but I do. His "partner" has accepted the risk and the deal is done. Nothing to do now but plow ahead. I can't wait to see what the next episode has to offer six months from now.
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I agree now that he says he is renting instead of buying. He has no ties to the property.
 
rockcity said:
I agree now that he says he is renting instead of buying. He has no ties to the property.
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True. But his past decision making skills and ability to follow advice given after asking for options will prove to be a continual source of entertainment on this topic for many weeks (until SQUIRREL) I mean....time for a new job/opportunity or run from creditors and then new topic, new job, new home, rinse..repeat


From what everyone has said who knows him, he has good intentions and good heart. But he has the foresight of a 16yr who just inherited a bunch of money and can't see further than his shadow
 
Just 12h ago on r/justrolledintotheshop

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