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So this was delivered to my email inbox the other day. Generally I delete them without review but for whatever reason I actually read this. I think they could have saved some time by just calling it an "engineering job". Last I knew this was the basic description of being an engineer. I sent a reply to the recruiter saying as much:

Job Title: Engineer II -(Associate)
Location: Durham, NC
Duration: 2 years

Qualifications: Demonstrated interpersonal skills including flexibility and ability to work in a team environment. Proven analytical abilities. Demonstrated written and verbal communication skills with emphasis on Technical Writing and Root Cause Analysis.

Responsibilities: The basic function of this position is to, independently or as part of a project team, plan, design, and implement varied technical projects and studies requiring knowledge of engineering and/or the physical sciences. Work requires expertise and full application of sound scientific principles, theories, concepts, techniques, and project management skills, as well as a working knowledge of Client methods, standards, procedures, and practices. The incumbent is expected to collect and interpret information and develop solutions to projects of various scopes. Minimal supervision, guidance, and direction is employed by the supervisor, however, periodic checks and reports are required to review soundness of technical judgment and the status/schedule of the effort

Education: Degree Type Major/Certification Required
Preferred College Science
 
I've got a much more clear-cut description for an engineering job listing:

Here, make all this shit fit in a virtual environment...THEN, coordinate it's EXACT location with installers (who generally work for beer money)

We will ultimately hold you financially responsible for ANY deviation from the virtual design, should it NOT work out in the field.

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CasterTroy said:
I've got a much more clear-cut description for an engineering job listing:

Here, make all this shit fit in a virtual environment...THEN, coordinate it's EXACT location with installers (who generally work for beer money)

We will ultimately hold you financially responsible for ANY deviation from the virtual design, should it NOT work out in the field.

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Also, the lighting in that model is way too good, and it doesn't show all of the other constraints such as the pre-existing structure you have to work around :D
 
CasterTroy said:
I've got a much more clear-cut description for an engineering job listing:

Here, make all this shit fit in a virtual environment...THEN, coordinate it's EXACT location with installers (who generally work for beer money)

We will ultimately hold you financially responsible for ANY deviation from the virtual design, should it NOT work out in the field.

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Lol.


I hope that design isn't final! ;) Lots of interferences! Looks like some of the projects I get thrown on to fix once the piping is going in and everything interferes with each other.
 
That's not even the worst part.....here's the mechanical room (looking overhead thru the 1st floor slab) and this is without pipe insulation!

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CasterTroy said:
That's not even the worst part.....here's the mechanical room (looking overhead thru the 1st floor slab) and this is without pipe insulation!

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lol.


That piping design confuses me too. Looks like the pumps will do nothing but recirculate. Don't see any control valves anywhere...


I'm surprised there is that much interference. Pipe supports and steel isn't even in there yet. That will add to it even more! Lol

Sure glad that's not mine but it really does looks like a fun project
 
That was just the CWS pumps from the chiller plant. SOME support steel has been placed in the model....(steam on the left in this shot) but it's a cluster......

The REAL fun is we're doing the BIM modeling only weeks before the actual installation (failure on the GC's part)

The actual design engineer of record for the project submitted the biggest JOKE of an actual Revit Model that I've seen. I truly expected more from a "Charlotte firm" of this caliber. This has been a nightmare to "fix". And yes...this is the FIX. If you saw what was "designed" originally, well...lets just say the client got royally screwed for what they paid for.

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Those traps, strainers, and valves look like fun to service and operate! Lol



Are those heat exchangers supported by the multiple posts tucked up high in the ceiling???
 
Yes (SMDH)

rockcity said:
Those traps, strainers, and valves look like fun to service and operate!
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That's in addition to the hot water generators and their serviceability (between 2 giant ducts 5'-7" in the air)

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Man, that would be a really fun project! Not necessarily laid out the best but would be fun figuring out how to make it work right when installing!
 
That's where I am now. Dimensioning this mell-of-a-hess so that the subs can install it perfectly.....all the while the installers are arguing with the walls guy and the structural people because they forgot things....like, depressing the slab for the bathroom tile, and putting in the structural walls in the wrong location. This, on a job where fraction of inches means the WORLD on a core drill for a combination waste and vent sewer riser that CANNOT offset (going up 4 floors)
 
I told this story to @shawn a while back but you two will get a kick out of it.

Working on a project that is top secret in greater Greenville, SC.


The "design firm" is out of San Francisco, CA.
We had our first meeting in November. Design Assist team is in place and contracted with a GMP number and they haven't gotten past 30% drawings yet.

The "lead master designer" is 25-30 years old and has 15 years of experience. No shit its on his resume and linkedin profile.
He "knows" that Revit is going to change the face of construction. So much so that according to his plan ALL conduits (even down to 1/2 branch circuits) and piping will be modeled and pre-fabbed offsite. Shipped to site and paint by number assembled. He has estimated that the savings from decreased waste and the efficiency savings of not bending conduit on site will save the owner "20%" (of what no one can answer...total project cost? not likely)...so here we are. The train is rolling along the track.

This genius designer is both the brother of the business owner and the son in law of the venture capitalist funding the project.

And the most recent design we relocated the diesel generator into a new room in the almost dead center of the building. This is a sealed room with extra thick walls to aid in noise abatement. There is no apparent path for combustion or cooling air and the design calls for the exhaust stack to be piped horizontally ~150' with (11) tight 90s and then to vertically extend 10+ stories. There is no indicated fan for moving this exhaust gas. There are however 2 pages of detail for the seismic restraints to support the exhaust system.

Oh yeah the fuel tank is shown in skid with no fueling provisions.
 
@Ron I would like to see the electrical specifications. Is "perpetual motion prime mover" in the specs? Just kick it over and it will run forever!

Revit is neat but every consultant I talk to that uses it says the same thing; it is a terrible resource hog and only partially useable on all but the most powerful computers. It has a lot of potential, but also a lot of shortcomings. My company supplies basic models for our equipment but we leave the modeling to the consultants. I really don't want anything to do with it.
 
Sounds like engineering sucks everywhere. Just remember, stay gruntled!
 
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