awheelterd
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Just because... 1950 8N
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Got the aircleaner fully re-installed, new cap/rotor/dizzy gaskets, and test fitted one of the LED lights last night. As soon as it dries up a bit, will get it warmed up and change the oil/filter. Barring issues, will move on to hydraulics clean out (full disassembly).
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Over the weekend, rolled her outside and got it warmed up good in prep of oil change...
That 2.5" "drain plug" AIN'T_NO_FAWKIN'_JOKE... dropped 5+ quarts in like 2 seconds!
A new Baldwin P40 filter, 6 quarts of Rotella T4 15w40 and it fired right back up with 37# (71 y/o factory gauge?)
Next up: (wet weather) will be yanking the front wheels, hubs and surveying the wheel bearing situation... hopefully just a clean/repack/reinstall or (dry weather) will bring a few more laps with the PTO/hydraulics engaged in prep of that change... the thought of trying to "slowly" and in a controlled fashion, drain 5 gallons of 90w thru a pair of 2.5" plugs, without an Exxon Valdese scenario, honestly intimidates me just a bit! What could happen?
That 2.5" "drain plug" AIN'T_NO_FAWKIN'_JOKE... dropped 5+ quarts in like 2 seconds!
A new Baldwin P40 filter, 6 quarts of Rotella T4 15w40 and it fired right back up with 37# (71 y/o factory gauge?)
Next up: (wet weather) will be yanking the front wheels, hubs and surveying the wheel bearing situation... hopefully just a clean/repack/reinstall or (dry weather) will bring a few more laps with the PTO/hydraulics engaged in prep of that change... the thought of trying to "slowly" and in a controlled fashion, drain 5 gallons of 90w thru a pair of 2.5" plugs, without an Exxon Valdese scenario, honestly intimidates me just a bit! What could happen?
YJJPWrangler
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Gotta love old iron!
My grandaddy had a mid 50's Massey that he used to mow the ditchs and the cemetery in the small town in Georgia that he lived. He also had a a 53 Farmall Super C that he used for his farm and everything else.
I got that tractor(Farmall Super C) and all the attachments when he passed and that damn tractor doesn't miss a beat. I drained the oil and put on two new front tires and it still works amazingly well. I even re-gasketed the carb in a field after cutting the gaskets myself. I still need to get the tractor from Raleigh to Charlotte but thats another project for another time.
I really do love seeing old iron getting used, the way its supposed to be. Keep up the good work
My grandaddy had a mid 50's Massey that he used to mow the ditchs and the cemetery in the small town in Georgia that he lived. He also had a a 53 Farmall Super C that he used for his farm and everything else.
I got that tractor(Farmall Super C) and all the attachments when he passed and that damn tractor doesn't miss a beat. I drained the oil and put on two new front tires and it still works amazingly well. I even re-gasketed the carb in a field after cutting the gaskets myself. I still need to get the tractor from Raleigh to Charlotte but thats another project for another time.
I really do love seeing old iron getting used, the way its supposed to be. Keep up the good work
JSJJ388
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My 9N needs a coil and some hydraulic word done, still out works me!
Definitely add something to protect the noggin. I don't want to be a kill joy in this thread, but I lost my grandfather to a tractor almost exactly like this one a few years ago. That tractor had been on our farm since it was new over 50 years, but it only takes that one slip up to get you.
Agree, I had a friend who lost his grandfather the same way. We know all too weel what can happen in an instant.
JSJJ388
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We lost a family friend to a jubilee. Trying to pull a stump with the draw bar and hit the lift lever when he turned around to look.
Croatan_Kid
How's your hammer hangin'?
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Hell, that's how Merle Watson was lost. Tractor flipped on him.
That being said, I havey grandaddy's 1955 Ferguson TO-35. According to the serial number and some scraping on the transmission, it was originally a "green belly" tractor. They were only made for about 8 months and pretty damn rare. I want to get it back in working order and add a few hundred pounds of weights on the front. They're such solid tractors!
That being said, I havey grandaddy's 1955 Ferguson TO-35. According to the serial number and some scraping on the transmission, it was originally a "green belly" tractor. They were only made for about 8 months and pretty damn rare. I want to get it back in working order and add a few hundred pounds of weights on the front. They're such solid tractors!
jeepinmatt
..l.
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I used to pull an 900-1000lb scrape blade with mine with filled tires and a 150lb weight on the front. It would still loft the frontend going up the hill from my shop, but thats what steering brakes are for.
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Struck a deal today for 7 implements... some on the larger side of what I think the '50 can handle(?). Belonged to sellers father that grew feed corn (no recollection of tractor size):
- 66" brushhog (odd size? very well made = heavy, but no idea whats up with the dual top-link brackets, unless he set it up to offset? will need going over, fluid change in box and bearings in tailwheel)
- homemade boom pole
- small commercial tater plow
- 7' spring harrow (figured I could remove a few tines if too much?)
- Pittsburgh Forgings 2 bottom plow (no idea the size, but looks pretty big... again, figured I could remove the LH plow and drag single?)
- remnants of homemade carryall (will need some welding/rehab)
- 6' KK scrape blade (may be the nicest of the lot)
- remnants of a homemade carry-all that will also require some rehab
While there are a couple irons in the fire, plan to retrieve them BEFORE no-legs/yellow jacket season begins in the next 30 days...
- 66" brushhog (odd size? very well made = heavy, but no idea whats up with the dual top-link brackets, unless he set it up to offset? will need going over, fluid change in box and bearings in tailwheel)
- homemade boom pole
- small commercial tater plow
- 7' spring harrow (figured I could remove a few tines if too much?)
- Pittsburgh Forgings 2 bottom plow (no idea the size, but looks pretty big... again, figured I could remove the LH plow and drag single?)
- remnants of homemade carryall (will need some welding/rehab)
- 6' KK scrape blade (may be the nicest of the lot)
- remnants of a homemade carry-all that will also require some rehab
While there are a couple irons in the fire, plan to retrieve them BEFORE no-legs/yellow jacket season begins in the next 30 days...
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GREEN GREMLIN
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Yep, offset bushog. Great for pastures.
jeepinmatt
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Yep, looks like a Hardee offset bushhog. I always thought they were cool. Wouldn't mind owning it if you wanna sell it cheap. Probably too heavy for an 8N also. My dad's 5ft King Kutter is built fairly light and is still a little heavy for his 8n on steep hills.
paradisePWoffrd
Recovering Project Junkie
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The double bottom plow should be ok, if you dont set it deep. If you want to go deep, you will need to take of one blade. The 7ft cultivator will be too wide, but as said, you should be able to remove some of the outer tines to help out. It also depends on how deep you want to get it. Going downhill will be your friend.
1tonchev
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Thats nice, my stepdad has a 51 I am storing for him. We got a 6 loop wheel and tire to get rid of if you ever need one. His has hat rim but his family member put a 6 loop on one side for some odd reason. We finally found a hat rim for it.
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I initially looked at them and only saw the newer hydraulic versions and dismissed. However, looked a little more and found pictures of them... exactly what this is!
While the overall width is 66", pretty sure it's a "5 footer"... from what I can tell, the gear box mount pivots (somehow) to the offset side to lessen the shaft angle.
jeepinmatt
..l.
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I ain't as dumb as I act!
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During my test drive last week, everything ran/functioned great! Except for leaks at the oil pressure guage line at the block & oil filter cap (both of those were resolved) and the lift works great... just wouldn't go DOWN! Finally got around to checking a few things... "touch control" linkage was in the control valve socket and control valve appears to operate back and forth (not stuck) so that narrows it down to something being plugged in the exhaust circuit...
Despite my concerns of making a mess draining the combined diff/hydraulic/tranny... that all went greatest. Unfortunately, there appears to have been a "high water content" that resulted in a combination of "milkshake" (what I'd expect to see) and a lesser amount that was "jellied" (like pudding!) in globs that clung to the lower sides... not great, but didn't see any real damage. Pulled the top cover/controls/cylinder & PTO shaft last night and will drop the bottom/pump tonight. Have a nice list of parts ready to go (new safety valve, NAA piston, friction disk, PTO seal, cam follower pin, overrunning clutch, etc.) and once tear down/inspection confirms nothing else is needed, will be inbound. Until then, will get the guts cleaned of the pudding and crud under it scraped off.
Despite my concerns of making a mess draining the combined diff/hydraulic/tranny... that all went greatest. Unfortunately, there appears to have been a "high water content" that resulted in a combination of "milkshake" (what I'd expect to see) and a lesser amount that was "jellied" (like pudding!) in globs that clung to the lower sides... not great, but didn't see any real damage. Pulled the top cover/controls/cylinder & PTO shaft last night and will drop the bottom/pump tonight. Have a nice list of parts ready to go (new safety valve, NAA piston, friction disk, PTO seal, cam follower pin, overrunning clutch, etc.) and once tear down/inspection confirms nothing else is needed, will be inbound. Until then, will get the guts cleaned of the pudding and crud under it scraped off.
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And the pump is back together, awaiting new safety valve & piston for reinstall. Still haven't cleaned the cases/cavities out, but did find that WallyWorld has their "SuperTech" brand brake cleaner for $1.94/can, so going that route over (taking a) diesel bath
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As far as the rippers, and the double plow, it will work, if new or hard ground, bot may need to run multiple passes of not going too deep on each, Pulling one plow off isn't too bad though, but I would leave the rippers alone. as far as the big bush hog, I'd make sure it had a shear pin, maybe on the light side, what yo don't wanna do is shear the PTO shaft. That straight blade will be very handy on your property! when and if we ever get snow again lol
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Made a wee push last week to get the hydraulics buttoned back up (crazy schedule and rain forecast this week)... despite the jellied goo over a heavy layer of packed oily dirt caked on all the bottom surfaces (removed by hand, scrubbed with brush and rinse with brake cleaner), the pump was in great shape! Installed the new piston and safety valve before it all went back together with new gaskets. Poured in the recommended 4.5-4.75 gallons of UTF and fired it up! After several minutes, there was still no movement and my heart sank... decided another beer may help the sickened feeling in my stomach. Left it running and when I returned several minutes later, the arms were up! Ran them up/down a few dozen times... smooth and steady! I guess it takes a long time to get everything bled on these old horses?
Went back up last night to wire in a rear work light (in prep for retrieving the implements) and after 3 full days, the arms were STILL UP! Granted, that may change once there's more weight on them, but will take that for now!
Went back up last night to wire in a rear work light (in prep for retrieving the implements) and after 3 full days, the arms were STILL UP! Granted, that may change once there's more weight on them, but will take that for now!
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@jeepinmatt After a couple calls (and digging the organic mater off the rotary cutter yesterday) have confirmed this is a Hardee T166 LTO made in 1974!I ain't as dumb as I act!
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Took 2 days/3 loads to retrieve, all the implements are home! The round-trips were less than 35 miles, but the majority were way up in BFE over narrow 2 lane.
While the Hardee looked pretty bad, I think after a little straightening, tailwheel bearings, servicing the gear box, cut the wire off the spindle and maybe try to unround the cutting edges, it'll be good to go.
The "gem" turned out to be the carryall... top frame/side appeared to be badly weathered bed frame angle (heavy pitted/broken), so assumed that was the construction. After prying it out of the ground and getting a closer look, the main frame is 3" Ă— 1/4" angle and looks like a good base to (re)build upon!
I knew some of the implements were borderline for the little tractor, the bushhog & backblade will require some counterweight for any real work. Both caused a few "oh shit" moments about time the front wheels cleared the dovetail on the trailer!
Since the last pc. off (2nd load) was the cultivator, drug it over the "garden spot" up by the shop. No idea how long ago it was worked, but had been driven over... a LOT. Aside from a couple spots I dropped it too deep (tap brake of spinning wheel and raise the arms a bit), it did GREAT! Since we're not planning to plant it this year, we'll keep building it up organically (leaves, poplar chips, composted manure), though its not as bad as imagined, and start in ernest this fall. May take a few decades to gather all the rocks though
While the Hardee looked pretty bad, I think after a little straightening, tailwheel bearings, servicing the gear box, cut the wire off the spindle and maybe try to unround the cutting edges, it'll be good to go.
The "gem" turned out to be the carryall... top frame/side appeared to be badly weathered bed frame angle (heavy pitted/broken), so assumed that was the construction. After prying it out of the ground and getting a closer look, the main frame is 3" Ă— 1/4" angle and looks like a good base to (re)build upon!
I knew some of the implements were borderline for the little tractor, the bushhog & backblade will require some counterweight for any real work. Both caused a few "oh shit" moments about time the front wheels cleared the dovetail on the trailer!
Since the last pc. off (2nd load) was the cultivator, drug it over the "garden spot" up by the shop. No idea how long ago it was worked, but had been driven over... a LOT. Aside from a couple spots I dropped it too deep (tap brake of spinning wheel and raise the arms a bit), it did GREAT! Since we're not planning to plant it this year, we'll keep building it up organically (leaves, poplar chips, composted manure), though its not as bad as imagined, and start in ernest this fall. May take a few decades to gather all the rocks though
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