Justice for Bella

RobMcBee

RobMcBee

Slow n easy when you're not gettin greasy....
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I THINK ITS SHITTY BC HE DIDNT HAVE TIME TO CHASE THE DOG, HE SHOT IT!? SERIOUSELY?!? WTF
 
It's a dog. A pit (mix) none the less, looks like a pit as well and I would assume it is aggressive like a pit. Looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, must be a duck. Had I encountered it on my property and didn't know its owners I would have shot it myself.
A short time later, Animal Control Officer Sean Austin arrived. One of the dogs was captured within minutes. Authorities said the other dog, a pit bull named Bella, was more difficult to catch.

In the report, the Concord police officers are quoted as saying Bella pulled her ears back and growled showing her teeth. They say she also appeared ready to charge at anyone who approached her.

Koch said media accounts have not told the whole story. Both Bella and Jaxson entered the backyard of an elderly woman and were aggressive toward the woman and an 8-year-old boy, as well as her two small dogs, Koch said.

"They were backed up against the fence in a menacing manner," he said. "That started the chain of events involving law enforcement officers which unfortunately led to Bella being shot."

After a while, Bella was shot and killed by Austin.
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If it acted as they say it did in that article, I have no problem with it being put down by animal control.
 
jweezyferg said:
I THINK ITS SHITTY BC HE DIDNT HAVE TIME TO CHASE THE DOG, HE SHOT IT!? SERIOUSELY?!? WTF
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Only later after he started catching heat for the shooting did they start saying the dog showed aggression. In the first reports it was said that bc he couldnt catch her and didnt have time to chase her that he shot her, and why is it that an AC officer has firearm training but not trained to use a tranquilizer gun. This to me seems questionable....
 
13bullets said:
It's a dog. A pit (mix) none the less, looks like a pit as well and I would assume it is aggressive like a pit.
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You obviously know nothing of the breed that you didn't get from a newscast. Pit Bulls are prone to animal agression, but without training or isolation rarely have agression toward humans.
 
Seriously, if you as a county animal control department have tranq. guns, why do you have officers not trained to use them? That's like saying the local cops couldnt' pursue the bank robber because they were not trained to use squad cars. I don't disagree with an agressive animal being put down. But the manner in which it's described isn't typical of bull breed dogs. Couple that with the video of the officer stating that the dog wasn't acting agressively, and you have a case of "I shot it because nobody will question me shooting a pit bull" There have been several shot by police officers in this area that not only were not acting agressively, but were contained where they could not get to the officer to begin with.
 
A lot of mistakes were made...

1) the dog(s) shouldn't have been loose

2) the officer should have found another way to control/capture the animal (it's his job to be able to "handle" animals) IF the animal did not show signs of elevated aggression - other than fear of being chased down.

It's very sad that someone's pet was destroyed, but w/ the stigma attached to pit's - the owners have to ensure their dogs are under control & contained.

This will get very interesting before it's over.....
 
"Our civil rights were violated, and this was a criminal act," Daniels said. "We are not going to stop here today."
As bad as everything in this country is today I hate to think this is what we spend our time fighting about. Were talking about animals. We have child molesters taking kids, murders and rapist running rampant and a Government that loses trust everyday. Yes I have pets and yes I enjoy having them but their still pets not people. The decision to put a animal down should go to animal control unless there was immediate danger and then I would think a police officer would have handled it.
Oh yeah is it our civil right to own pets?:confused:
 
13bullets said:
It's a dog. A pit (mix) none the less, looks like a pit as well and I would assume it is aggressive like a pit.

If it acted as they say it did in that article, I have no problem with it being put down by animal control.
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I dont agree with that at all. I own a pit mix and he is actually the best dog I have ever owned. Pits are stereo typed into having this aggressive behavior. Im sure the lil ole lady in the story (which was not mentioned before) just saw a pit and freaked out. I do agree that if any animal is raised in acertain enviroment they will be a product of that enviroment. Pits and mixes of this breed have been associated with dog fighting and therefore most attacks of this breed havebeen b/c they were abused or "trained" to be aggressive. I do agree that if ANY animal is attacking anyone that animal should be put down, but that wasnt the case here. This AC officer only changed his story after the fact....
 
mountainTJ said:
I dont agree with that at all. I own a pit mix and he is actually the best dog I have ever owned. Pits are stereo typed into having this aggressive behavior. Im sure the lil ole lady in the story (which was not mentioned before) just saw a pit and freaked out. I do agree that if any animal is raised in acertain enviroment they will be a product of that enviroment. Pits and mixes of this breed have been associated with dog fighting and therefore most attacks of this breed havebeen b/c they were abused or "trained" to be aggressive. I do agree that if ANY animal is attacking anyone that animal should be put down, but that wasnt the case here. This AC officer only changed his story after the fact....
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....the only problem is that if she was in her own yard, the dog (pit, collie, poodle) should not be - aggression is subjective, unfortunately.
 
DemonDave said:
You obviously know nothing of the breed that you didn't get from a newscast. Pit Bulls are prone to animal agression, but without training or isolation rarely have agression toward humans.
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mountainTJ said:
I dont agree with that at all. I own a pit mix and he is actually the best dog I have ever owned. Pits are stereo typed into having this aggressive behavior. Im sure the lil ole lady in the story (which was not mentioned before) just saw a pit and freaked out. I do agree that if any animal is raised in acertain enviroment they will be a product of that enviroment. Pits and mixes of this breed have been associated with dog fighting and therefore most attacks of this breed havebeen b/c they were abused or "trained" to be aggressive. I do agree that if ANY animal is attacking anyone that animal should be put down, but that wasnt the case here. This AC officer only changed his story after the fact....
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I'm not debating the aggression of pit bulls towards humans. I didn't even mention humans. There is no denying pit's are an aggressive breed.

Either way, I stand by my statement. If the dog were on my property the only thing the AC officer would have had to do was come load up a dead dog.
 
doc said:
....the only problem is that if she was in her own yard, the dog (pit, collie, poodle) should not be - aggression is subjective, unfortunately.
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this is true also. Im not saying the owners arent at fault, but anyone with a dog in a fence has probably had them get loose atime or two. It happens. Im only questioning the judgement of the AC officer to shoot the dog and the fact that he changed his story to cover his butt. Like DemonDave said
Couple that with the video of the officer stating that the dog wasn't acting agressively, and you have a case of "I shot it because nobody will question me shooting a pit bull" There have been several shot by police officers in this area that not only were not acting agressively, but were contained where they could not get to the officer to begin with.
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13bullets said:
I'm not debating the aggression of pit bulls towards humans. I didn't even mention humans. There is no denying pit's are an aggressive breed.
Either way, I stand by my statement. If the dog were on my property the only thing the AC officer would have had to do was come load up a dead dog.
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Isn't human agression what this whole incedent is centered around? And careful shooting dogs on your property, if it isn't acting agressively toward you or a family member, and you are witnessed shooting it you may get a trip to jail. Not trying to get at you with that statement, just telling you how it is.
 
mountainTJ said:
this is true also. Im not saying the owners arent at fault, but anyone with a dog in a fence has probably had them get loose atime or two. It happens. Im only questioning the judgement of the AC officer to shoot the dog and the fact that he changed his story to cover his butt. Like DemonDave said
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....but choosing to own a pit w/ all of their stigmas, the owners need to take extra precaution to legally restrain their dog.

One of my best friends has two, some of the best damn dogs I've encountered. But, if a pit (or any dog) came onto my property near my son or wife & did so much as grin funny @ them - I'd empty the clip.

Even w/ that said, the officer should have had other means to correct the situation the owners created.
 
Although I dont' support how it was handled, or think this was called for on the officers part, the whole mess would've been avoided with proper containment. And regardless of the stereotype created stigma surrounding the breed, those of us that own the dogs prefer them for thier actual traits, regardless of what thugs have turned the public opinion of the dogs into. It all boils down to keeping your pet in your yard, regardless if it's a pit, a poodle or a hedgehog. IF you want your dog safe, keep it contained somehow. I've found that the underground fences work well for my dogs, though my brothers lab needed a little bit hotter collar it works well for his too. A small investment can prevent all of these problems.


Just on a side note, I worked as a repo man for a little bit and for a gas company for a bit as a delivery driver, I have 12 different dog bite scars, 9 are from labs, two are from hounds, and one was a cocker spaniel. Although I've encountered literally thousands of pit bulls in thier yard, without the owners, and occasionally with the owner trying to get the dog to bite me, I've never had even a close call with a bull breed.
 
DemonDave said:
Do you happen to own a dog?
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yes, have always had 1,2 or 3 at a time...also have 3 cats and some fish. if they died would i be sad, sure. would i publically bitch and complain and start a faggotass facebook page about it? no, that's what's wrong with america...everyone cares way too much about what happens to other people and don't face their own problems. the owners can buy a new dog, be just as happy, and stop crying.
 
You've got to realize at the same time though, the whole shit isn't THAT the dog died, it's how and why it died. The dog didn't get out and get ran over, it was supposedly killed just for being a dog. Or a specific breed of dog. Granted, it has been carried pretty far for what it is, if I had a statement pretty much disproving the b.s. ruling that the officer was in the right according to fabricated eyewitness accounts I'd be pissed too. That's a pretty rough thing to put your young kid through because the a.c. officer was a dick and shot the dog for no reason. And I'm fairly sure that if someone shot your dog(s) simply because it was there, nothing else, that you would want something done about it too. I don't know enough of the story to call any of it right or wrong, but if it is as it's told it needs attention to prevent it from happenign again. Either way, proper containment makes safe pets, this whole crap was preventable.
 
wait? a Weimaraner and a pit mix?

who thought it was a good idea to mix stupid with aggressive?
 
BigRedB2 said:
wait? a Weimaraner and a pit mix?
who thought it was a good idea to mix stupid with aggressive?
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LOL Hes an accident but I got him for free. Acutally very smart and not the least aggressive:fuck-you:
 
GSRswapandslow said:
it's a fucking dog, WHO GIVES A SHIT. the family can go buy another one, not a bid deal.
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some people do opinions are like assholes everybody has one ans some stink....:beer:
 
I own a pit and have always had them. My dogs are like family members and "not just a fucking dog". Never had one even resemble aggressive. The people should have been more careful but shit happens and could have happened to any breed. The difference is the guy wouldn't have dare shot a poodle. Makes me sick. At worst the dog should have been tranq'd
 
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