Let's spend a sec to discuss possible threats in this new and tumultuous environment.

ponykilr

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Things are chaotic in many parts of the country, especially in urban environs and this is a prime time in history to be the "grey man" or be prepared to be the "object of someone else's attention". Case in point, unless you do desire to make your stand loud and clear (because bumper stickers are known to change people's minds and make a difference in the world) get that $%^& off of your vehicle. It is one thing and one thing only (besides your cry for cool points), a magnet for attention. Attention at 11pm in a convenience store lot from a group of angry AntiFA/AntiMAGA folks is not good attention at all. Attention from a thief who looks for your HK or Highpoint sticker on your Siv-ver-ah-doh is not good either.





Listen, we are gonna see the "left" and those that do not see the last election cycle as ice cream and watermelon time begin to look for opportunities to express themselves in what can be described as "venting". Do not make yourself the "vent". Avoid places if possible that seem to promote you as a pinata full of hate. Keep stickers, tags and such off of your poon magnet. Avoid "tak-tee-kul" clothing and hats when you may be in hostile areas (or just avoid it, it does not make you an operator). Don't stop at zero-dark-thirty at LeRoy's Brotherhood Market.... Avoid it by keeping your fuel tank full and pissing before you are about to wet yourself.

Be armed. Not just your Glock 19/17 (Gawd bless Gaston) but keep a carbine in the car. Listen, just do it. And mags, several mags. Hopefully that purty black thang will ride around unused for practically ever but what if you find yourself in shizholeistan at zerodarkthirty with a non-MAGA group wanting to make a zample out of you and Mrs. NC4x4user? A carbine would certainly help back that $%^& right the fark down.

Keep your mudderhumpin fone in your pocket and your eyes on the real world. Geezus people stay alert and aware.

Look at people, look them in the eye. Exude confidence, not bravado. Be Jose Wales not Vanilla Ice. Don't look like an easy target, but don't look like you wanna take over da hood either.

Lastly, get some training. Carrying a weapon does not make you a warrior or even "armed", what is between your ears does. PK out.
 
The only sticker that's bigger than my glock/HK/Sig/Barrett/tap out/yeti on the back glass of my silveraydo is the giant ass TRUMP banner covering my entire window itself. I haven't had any problems so far. MLK is usually pretty quiet after midnight when I run in the 7/11 for a fowty. Hell I usually leave the truck running and the door open while I'm in there
 
LOL what gets me with this video, and I have seen it several places and watched it several times is a. when the truck owner realized there was a problem, he kept walking into the store.
second, "what you want, all of us to be deported" comment. It's clear he was born and raised in the "hood" so why is he thinking Trump wants to deport him, and or other blacks?
Sad when people, of any color race or religion can't understand the illegal immigrant part of the executive order!
 
They tend to like David Allen Coe
And Waylon, don't forget Waylon

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Sad when people, of any color race or religion can't understand the illegal immigrant part of the executive order
It's not that he does not understand, he just needs a reason to thug and this is prime thugging season with no bag limit or threat of punishment (not for long however).
 
I disagree. If some thug is threatening you and he is jacked up on something pepper spray or stun gun may just get you killed. If my life is in danger I'm not worried worried about the other parties life.
 
I disagree. If some thug is threatening you and he is jacked up on something pepper spray or stun gun may just get you killed. If my life is in danger I'm not worried worried about the other parties life.
You may disagree but NC law (NCGS14-32) doesn't support your way of thinking and you will be criminally charged if you go straight to using deadly force on somebody if a lesser force option would have controlled the situation. You become the aggressor. Now if the thug attacks you and you use pepper spray or whatever non lethal options you try and they don't work then going to deadly force would be more appropriate.
 
Now if the thug attacks you and you use pepper spray or whatever non lethal options you try and they don't work then going to deadly force would be more appropriate.

I've seen way too many worldstar hip hop videos to dislike this statement :shaking: In a split second people are getting their faces kicked in and smashed on concrete curbs resulting in brain damage. I'm willing to let a jury decide instead of being fed liquid dinner through a straw :sniper:
 
^^^Negative 14-51.3 gives anyone the right to defend themselves or anyone else from deadly force, with deadly force. Just make sure the person you are defending didn't start the shit in the first place.
I think that guy in the truck would have been fine to ventilate that thug in the parking lot. I doubt it would have made it past a grand jury.
I think 14-32 pertains to people that escalate a altercation into a assault with a weapon.
If yotaonrocks reasonably believed his life was threatened he's good to escalate it to deadly force.


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You may disagree but NC law (NCGS14-32) doesn't support your way of thinking and you will be criminally charged if you go straight to using deadly force on somebody if a lesser force option would have controlled the situation. You become the aggressor. Now if the thug attacks you and you use pepper spray or whatever non lethal options you try and they don't work then going to deadly force would be more appropriate.

If dont have a lesser option available then i dont have to make a decision. The "thug" has already made my decision for me. Tried by 12 vs carried by 6. I will take my chances with my peers if i am truly fearing for me and mines lives.
 
LEOs are trained in the use of force continuum. Civilians are not. If I'm in a situation where I would use a stun gun or pepper spray, I would rather draw down on a thug with 45, at least if that didn't de escalate the situation, the. The next step up would be a quick transition. I.e.
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ANY reputable trainer of civilians will tell you that you should NEVER attempt less that lethal weapons use. The use of weapons for defense is in the gravest extreme to prevent bodily harm (any bodily harm, not necessarily death) because you have no way to know what the end result of the encounter will be. If you are not and can not be shown to be the aggressor, you have no duty to retreat or duty to utilize a lesser weapon than the sidearm you are legally carrying (or any other weapon that renders the threat a non-threat).

"I feared for my life, I yelled for them to stop, I choose to remain silent until I speak with my attorney"

You have zero time to decide if an encounter is going to result in an ass whipping or your murder, nor have you been trained to know the difference. LEO have a different role than you as a citizen and the law/court has a different measure of the use of force.

I recommend these people locally to learn what is and is not what you should do in such a situation.
Law of Self Defense LEVEL 1 Class: NC (6/10/17)
 
ANY reputable trainer of civilians will tell you that you should NEVER attempt less that lethal weapons use. The use of weapons for defense is in the gravest extreme to prevent bodily harm (any bodily harm, not necessarily death) because you have no way to know what the end result of the encounter will be. If you are not and can not be shown to be the aggressor, you have no duty to retreat or duty to utilize a lesser weapon than the sidearm you are legally carrying (or any other weapon that renders the threat a non-threat).

"I feared for my life, I yelled for them to stop, I choose to remain silent until I speak with my attorney"

You have zero time to decide if an encounter is going to result in an ass whipping or your murder, nor have you been trained to know the difference. LEO have a different role than you as a citizen and the law/court has a different measure of the use of force.

I recommend these people locally to learn what is and is not what you should do in such a situation.
Law of Self Defense LEVEL 1 Class: NC (6/10/17)

Well put, horse murderer. You are 100% correct.
 
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