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jyaks said:
It's a hell of a lot of money around here I don't care who you are.
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Actually, $174K ain't much in DC (home prices are $900K and up for upper middle class). Then consider they have to maintain residence in DC and their home state.

Anyone looking at congressional paychecks and complaining falls into the penny-wise pound foolish category in my book. What you should be asking is how they afford the condo in DC, the million dollar home in their state, AND the vacation cottage on that salary... 💰💸
 
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Back to the memes before @BigClay starts a new thread..
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zuke said:
Looks to me like the Senate hasn't had a raise in 12 years, Despite attempts to raise it every year;

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The fact is, Congress is always voting for pay raises for themselves, and we hear about them voting for it, but the measures don't get passed, so they have to keep voting for them in hopes they do.

$174,000 sounds like a lot, but honestly, it's a lot less than a civilian executive of similar responsibilities makes.
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I'd be willing to bet all I own that not a one of them would trade you that 174k for 5 times that amount. Even the ones that are useless as a screen door on a submarine come out of there multi millionaires from inside trading, real estate deals and "art" sales just to name a few things.
 
Southern_Transplant said:
Actually, $174K ain't much in DC (home prices are $900K and up for upper middle class). Then consider they have to maintain residence in DC and their home state.

Anyone looking at congressional paychecks and complaining falls into the penny-wise pound foolish category in my book. What you should be asking is how they afford the condo in DC, the million dollar home in their state, AND the vacation cottage on that salary... 💰💸
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Eggs-Zachary.

The 174k salary cap doesn't really affect or bother 90% of Congressmen bc they are making money "other ways". Which yes should absolutely be questioned.
Its a much bigger issue for other parts of government - which it applies universally to - like R&D. I have coworkers that are literally the best specialists in their field in the entire world, could be making 50% more either in private industry or academia. We can't compete to hire "the really good people" bc they can get so much more working for tech companies. And not have to be bound by all the ridiculous regulation, reporting and audit rules (yes, I have to file the same paperwork as a congressman).
 
I think the congressman’s point was that despite all of the things that could be done to actually stimulate economic improvement, this “infrastructure” bill of trillions is being voted on which includes pay raises for a congress with record low approval.

No one with a few brain cells thinks he was suggesting only dems get a raise. Fiscal conservatives probably voted against the bill in its entirety while fiscal liberals voted to make it rain (along with all of the pet funds they stuck in there).

At this point, it really matters little. The genie isn’t going back in the bottle.
 
ponykilr said:
I think the congressman’s point was that despite all of the things that could be done to actually stimulate economic improvement, this “infrastructure” bill of trillions is being voted on which includes pay raises for a congress with record low approval.
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But where's the evidence that the bill actually contains that? That's what I'm asking for.
As far as I'm concerned he's just making shit up until there's something to go with the statement.

You seem to be just assuming what he's saying is true.
Yet people say... you know a politician is lying because their lips are moving... for a reason.

We don't even know if there is a genie. Seems to me like the only magic genie is the one the Congressman is trying to create.
 
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ponykilr said:
I think the congressman’s point was that despite all of the things that could be done to actually stimulate economic improvement, this “infrastructure” bill of trillions is being voted on which includes pay raises for a congress with record low approval.

No one with a few brain cells thinks he was suggesting only dems get a raise. Fiscal conservatives probably voted against the bill in its entirety while fiscal liberals voted to make it rain (along with all of the pet funds they stuck in there).

At this point, it really matters little. The genie isn’t going back in the bottle.
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It is very possible that certain fiscal housekeeping was tacked on to the bill (republicans may have even pushed for it in the name of seeing the whole picture of domestic spending). It's political gamesmanship and I don't like it when either side cherry picks at things like this to gaslight one side or the other.
 
Southern_Transplant said:
It's political gamesmanship and I don't like it when either side cherry picks at things like this to gaslight one side or the other.
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... and doesn't bother to even provide provide the reference to what they are talking about, assuming people will just blindly take it as truth
 
Unfortunately, like most such legislation, it isn’t public
 
ponykilr said:
Unfortunately, like most such legislation, it isn’t public
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False. Heck I hate the government as much as the next guy (probably more), but that's just not true.
 
ponykilr said:
Unfortunately, like most such legislation, it isn’t public
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jeepinmatt said:
False. Heck I hate the government as much as the next guy (probably more), but that's just not true.
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yep.
If it's ok for him to tell us what they are voting on, then it is available for us to know what they are voting on.

Hell, even the way it is phrased is in that nice condescending way that we should already know.
 
jeepinmatt said:
False. Heck I hate the government as much as the next guy (probably more), but that's just not true.
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Exactly. You can search to your heart's content.
 
RatLabGuy said:
But where's the evidence that the bill actually contains that? That's what I'm asking for.
As far as I'm concerned he's just making shit up until there's something to go with the statement.

You seem to be just assuming what he's saying is true.
Yet people say... you know a politician is lying because their lips are moving... for a reason.

We don't even know if there is a genie. Seems to me like the only magic genie is the one the Congressman is trying to create.
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“We have to pass the bill so you can find out what’s in it”
-some politician, probably
 
RatLabGuy said:
yep.
If it's ok for him to tell us what they are voting on, then it is available for us to know what they are voting on.

Hell, even the way it is phrased is in that nice condescending way that we should already know.
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Then you search it out. Why ask me to prove it, it’s a tweet I found interesting.

Which do you believe more probable. That they included a pay raise or that they didn’t?
 
jyaks said:
It's a hell of a lot of money around here I don't care who you are.
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It's Decent Money up here, But not phenomenal, and it's not about what people make other places, it's about the amount of responsibility they have...

I'm not saying they handle it well, or are good at it, if they aren't, vote'm out.

But for the level of Integrity, Responsibility, and value representing their constituents that I WANT them to have, $174,000 is a pittance, We pay idiots/drug addicts/thugs a lot more to play games.
 
ponykilr said:
Then you search it out. Why ask me to prove it, it’s a tweet I found interesting.
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Such a low low bar.

@ponykilr pushes down little old ladies for fun, steals coins from the cancer donation jar and hates America.
Untrue? Ehh y'all search it out. Its an opinion I found interesting






J/k, I really like the dude. Just proving a point.
 
ponykilr said:
Then you search it out. Why ask me to prove it, it’s a tweet I found interesting.

Which do you believe more probable. That they included a pay raise or that they didn’t?
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Never argue with a liberal. It's like arguing with an idiot, except a liberal honestly believes they're intelligent.
 
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