MOTD (Meme of the Day)

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R Q said:
I walked one all the way out to the recycling can today and did an about face and took it in my shop to save. lol
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My brother! I thought I was alone in the universe!

Not all cardboard boxes have that certain quality that just says - yea, that’s a box that could come in handy someday. ;-)
 
R Q said:
I walked one all the way out to the recycling can today and did an about face and took it in my shop to save. lol
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/dev/yj said:
My brother! I thought I was alone in the universe!

Not all cardboard boxes have that certain quality that just says - yea, that’s a box that could come in handy someday. ;-)
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We get so many deliveries from Amazon and Sam's Club that there will always be another "quality box".
 
LBarr2002 said:
We get so many deliveries from Amazon and Sam's Club that there will always be another "quality box".
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Yes! This ^^^^^^
I used to save some boxes but now not so much anymore, two or three will be on my doorstep in a day or so.
I do still save the bigger boxes for the garage putting on the floor for working under something or painting.
 
R Q said:
I walked one all the way out to the recycling can today and did an about face and took it in my shop to save. lol
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DUDE! I was saving MANY cardboard boxes in my garage. I legit had a problem. My wife finally noticed the MASSIVE hoard of boxes and called me out on my problem and gave me a ton of shit about it and said I needed to throw them all away. I now throw them all away and then when she asks me if we have a box, I quickly reply nope, LOL.
 
CarolinaHD said:
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If only any of that was true...
Yeah sure, there are probably some auto's that shift faster, but ironically the common reference for this is the Porsche PDK which is a dual clutch hydraulically/electronically actuated manual, not an automatic. Most common auto trannies still shift slow and have terrible programming.
 
jeepinmatt said:
If only any of that was true...
Yeah sure, there are probably some auto's that shift faster, but ironically the common reference for this is the Porsche PDK which is a dual clutch hydraulically/electronically actuated manual, not an automatic. Most common auto trannies still shift slow and have terrible programming.
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Aren't most new sports cars faster as auto than manual?
 
orange150 said:
Aren't most new sports cars faster as auto than manual?
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I don't drive a stick bc its faster.

I drive it bc its more funner

EDIT: see also anti-theft
 
orange150 said:
Aren't most new sports cars faster as auto than manual?
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We're getting into semantics and pedantics I suppose but most of those are dual clutch manuals that have automated shifting. And regardless, I just hate automatics because they don't do what I tell them to, unlike a manual. So anything that is anti-manual annoys me.
 
jeepinmatt said:
We're getting into semantics and pedantics I suppose but most of those are dual clutch manuals that have automated shifting. And regardless, I just hate automatics because they don't do what I tell them to, unlike a manual. So anything that is anti-manual annoys me.
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My sons Jetta TDI is a "automatic" dual clutch manual transmission. When it down shifts you KNOW its a manual, it does bang through the gears pretty hard when you are on it. The cost to replace it IF YOU CAN FIND ONE though. worth more than the car is.
Sadly the gobment mandated warranty is out on the car, engine and exhaust, but didn't cover the transmission anyways. I think it was over $2,800 for new clutches. German engineering at its best LOL!
 
CarolinaHD said:
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To break it down piece by piece:
MANUAL TRANS
Slippage- True, but false in this context. Yes, a clutch slips, that is its only dynamic function. The whole beauty of a manual compared to an auto is that the slippage is super minimal and controlled by the driver, unlike an auto that keeps the torque converter unlocked way too long and doesn't have that connected feeling. Autos slip like crazy and waste driving force and generate heat.

Grinding- False, unless you are not using it properly. Synchronizers have been around for like a hundred years.

Slow shifts- User dependent. Also, user selectable in a manual, unlike an auto. If you're trying to go fast, shifts should be notably less than .5 second.

Excuses- Umm, ok :rolleyes:

AUTOMATIC TRANS
More power than your manual can take- False. Manuals can easily have much larger internals and clutches. I have no idea why they stopped putting manuals in trucks, claiming they couldn't handle the torque, when there have been clutches that could handle twice that torque since the 60's. The evolution of the manual has stopped because automakers stopped providing them, and claim that the take rate was low. But these are the same automakers who never had manuals in stock on the lot and made it difficult and more expensive to special order them.

Minimal power loss- False. Just flat out false. Even the gold standard ZF8 auto has a lot of loss compared to a manual.

Faster gear changes- Depends on definition of "auto", but if its a traditional auto like the one in the image they used with a torque converter and big pan where everything relies on valves and hydraulics and solenoids, then no. They are certainly way better than they used to be.

Won races- Sure. And lost them too. In the end, the driver can still be more important. For drag racing, an inexperienced imbecile in an auto might be able to beat a good driver in a manual, and that's part of why I hate automatics. It is helping keep inept people competitive with those who have actual skill, and is contributing to the dumbing down of humanity.
 
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