mountain lions (cougars) in NC?

Chuckman

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so are they here or not? Ive seen / touched a dead one that a kid swore that he killed in NC while ginsing hunting, but now I wonder did it come from Fla? now a guy at work swears to have pics of one in Iredell cty on his game cam. then everybody thats a serious hunter cant believe it. so I beg the question- has anybody seen one live and in NC THEMSELVES? the NCDNR refuses to admit that they are here in breeding population, only that a few escape or are mis-identified. but then the gub-ment is the gub-ment.
 
I couldn't help myself.

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At Grandfather mtn they have one and we were talking to the caretaker (animal expert) and she said they were native to the state, and breeding in the wild.
 
And more seriously:

http://www.fws.gov/nc-es/mammal/cougar.html


http://www.discoverlife.org/nh/tx/Vertebrata/Mammalia/Felidae/Puma/concolor/

# Great Smoky Mountains National Park: Linzey and Linzey (1968) summarized the history of the mountain lion in the park and surrounding regions:

The first record of this species dates back to 1840-50 when John Oliver reported that he heard of two "panthers" being killed in Cades Cove. In 1859, Buckley noted that the "panther" was troublesome to the mountain farmers of North Carolina and Tennessee, destroying their sheep and hogs. Brimley (1944), writing about the mammals of North Carolina, recorded the cougar as being "apparently extinct," the last specimens having been killed near Highlands and in Craven County, North Carolina, about 1886. After a journey through the Great Smoky Mountains during the summer of 1887, Merriam (1888) reported that the panther was "unknown." Between 1895 and 1905, a "panther" was reported by Wm. Barnes on Big Creek. There are reports that two cougars were killed about 1899-one near Smokemont and the other in the Greenbrier area.

The last report of a cougar being killed in the Great Smokies comes from the winter of 1920 (Brewer, 1964): Tom Sparks was attacked by a cougar while herding sheep on Spence Field. He inflicted a deep wound in its left shoulder. Several months later, a cougar was killed near what is now Fontana Village, and its left shoulder blade had been cut in two. It was believed to be the same cat that Sparks had wounded.

Several years later, Ganier (1928) reported that the panther was extinct in Tennessee, "save possibly a half dozen individuals in the Great Smokies."

Hamnett and Thornton (1953), in discussing the status of this cat in North Carolina, stated that it is "now believed to be extinct... Last positive records for the State were from the Coastal Region... in the early 1900s... Until positive proof of the cougar's existence is furnished... we must continue to regard this animal as virtually extinct in North Carolina."

Culbertson (1977) examined the status and history of this species in the park. Twelve sightings were reported for the years 1908-1965 and 31 sightings for the years 1966-1976. Culbertson stated: "The number of lion sightings through the years suggest that the mountain lion may never have actually been extinct in the Great Smoky Mountains area. The lion may have been able to maintain itself in small numbers in the more inaccessible mountainous regions in or around the park. The present lion population could be derived in part from this small reservoir... It is believed that there were three to six mountain lions living in the park in 1975, and other lions were reported to the southeast and northeast of the park as well. Lions were seen most frequently near areas of high deer density."

Park files contain many interesting reports of purported mountain lion sightings. Every year, several additional reports are received. If, in fact, the animals being observed are mountain lions, they may be part of the original population as Culbertson suggested, or more likely, they may be captive animals that have either escaped or been released. Tennessee residents may legally possess captive western mountain lions; North Carolina residents may not. Mountain lions that have been found in eastern states have shown signs of being in captivity (tattoos, defanged, declawed, etc.).
 
there were some around home several years ago, i know quite a few people who saw them, and know how they got there. they aren't native, they were released years ago due to some shady dealings that have no place being elaborated on on the interwebz. at one time, within the past 10yrs, there was a mating pair of panthers in northern joco, not to far from blkvoodoo's house actually
 
YES, they are definitely out here. They have been spotted multiple times out in my area (South Yadkin River area, close to where Rowan, Iredell, and Davie counties meet) .
 
someone told me of a news story about panther being spotted near davie forsyth county border.

and i had a friend who lived near hanging rock and we could sit on his porch and watch the mtn lion come out of the woods and head up the hill everynite.
 
I see cougars on Glenwood in downtown Raleigh most every weekend.
 
A few months ago, the tracks of a cougar were spotted on the riverbank at Duke Energy's Cliffside Plant by some construction workers.
 
A few months ago, the tracks of a cougar were spotted on the riverbank at Duke Energy's Cliffside Plant by some construction workers.

This is what bugs me about 99.5% of these cat sightings. Damn near everybody carries a camera nowadays, but the only person that ever sees a cat is your ex-wife's cousin's sister-in-law's baby daddy when he's walking home from the bar in the middle of the night.

Get a photo or it didn't happen. :flipoff2:
 
Yes, they are here. I've bass fished in nite tournaments for years and My fishing partner and I observed one at a secluded mobile home site on Norman several years back around 1AM. Not a two second blur but probally five minute watch while the big cat explored the yard under a lit nite light. Beautiful creature. One big cat! We later asked a friend who is a wildlife officer who admitted off the record that several had been "transplanted" to the gameland on Lk Norman near Marshal Steam Plt. Haven't seen one since but have heard about several other sightings.
 
We later asked a friend who is a wildlife officer who admitted off the record that several had been "transplanted" to the gameland on Lk Norman near Marshal Steam Plt.

Transplanting isnt a huge deal. Hell if it wasnt for transplanting, those White Tail deer we love to hunt wouldnt be here! Believe it or not, at one point they were pretty much killed off and confined to deep swamp areas in Louisiana and such. If you look hard enough in those swamps, you'll find old deer traps where they caught and moved them farther north.

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Also, the mountain lion isnt endangered, its just locally rare. Go out west and those things are everywhere.
 
The mountain lion is a listed endangered species in the NE US. Everything east of the Mississippi except for the deep south (LA, AL, GA, FL).

Kill one around here and you'll end up in deep doo doo.
 
Lol, you do know they're endangered right?? :p
The mountain lion is a listed endangered species in the NE US. Everything east of the Mississippi except for the deep south (LA, AL, GA, FL).

Kill one around here and you'll end up in deep doo doo.

yep, and endangered is going to keep me from being attacked if im hunting for deer waaaaay out in the middle of nowhere.

pssssh. self defence. :flipoff2:
 
Yes, It isn't a big deal. I really enjoy wildlife and cherish my memory of my one sighting! Wish everyone could experience a sighting like that and see the gracefulness of one of these majestic animals. Wouldn't want to run up on one in the wild and find out it was having a bad day! That was a big dang cat! I would never shoot one unless my life was threatened by it. I'm a hunter since my early youth. I have a son who hunts and enjoys firearms. You can ask him and he will tell you, Dad's rule- You shoot and kill it, you're going to eat it! Life is a precious commodity, for all creatures!
 
Yes, It isn't a big deal. I really enjoy wildlife and cherish my memory of my one sighting! Wish everyone could experience a sighting like that and see the gracefulness of one of these majestic animals. Wouldn't want to run up on one in the wild and find out it was having a bad day! That was a big dang cat! I would never shoot one unless my life was threatened by it. I'm a hunter since my early youth. I have a son who hunts and enjoys firearms. You can ask him and he will tell you, Dad's rule- You shoot and kill it, you're going to eat it! Life is a precious commodity, for all creatures!

agreed.....

but Im not too sure on the eating a cougar thing. Ive got a little Cherokee in me, but dang, thats a little too much.:lol:
 
he-he-he Maybe some teriyaki sauce or bbq sauce!
 
I used to hunt around WCU back in the day, Joyce Kilmer I believe. I KNOW they are some up there. Here that scream 30 ft up a tree 1/2 hour before daylight bowhunting and you will NEVER forget it.
 
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