NC lift laws??? NEW?

BLUERUNNER

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i was pulled last week and got a warning for a vehicle lifted over 6", he was nice enough however to write me a $100 seat-belt ticket. i didnt think the lift law was true anyway.
then tonight i had a cop drive up to me again, he gave me the same speech, so i wanted to see it in writing, sure enough...

GS 20-135.4(D) hight of m/v can not be lowered or riased more than 6" from factory spec with out written blah...

this officer was nice enough however to give me another warning, and a $50 parking ticket.
what the hell? is this new or something?
 
I think its been like that for a long time. Its my understading that that 6 in. includes what lift the tires give you also. When you factor in the tire your realy only talking a 4in. lift or less to stay legal.Most LEOs wont right you for it. I dont know anyone who has ever goten a ticket for it. $100 seat belt when did this change? My last one about 2 months ago was $75.
 
Hate to say I told you so.....but I told you so. If you had read through the NC statutes in the Important Info section you would have seen this very law posted. Trust me, I don't post imaginary stuff, and all the times I have posted about this very law (usually with the response of I'll take my chances), I have been doing it to make sure folks know that there is a limit in NC on how high you can go.

Glad you got a warning on the lift though.
 
yea, sounds like s couple of ambitious prick are out to meet their quota in the first week so they can eat doughnuts the rest of the month. Sucks to hear.
 
and how are the pricks? The are enforcing a written law, I agree it sucks to get ticketed, but if you are gonna play, you gotta pay sometimes, I have had my share of run-in's with LEO's because of vehicle laws, yeah it sucks, but it is also their job.
 
Lee said:
and how are the pricks? The are enforcing a written law, I agree it sucks to get ticketed, but if you are gonna play, you gotta pay sometimes, I have had my share of run-in's with LEO's because of vehicle laws, yeah it sucks, but it is also their job.
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Ditto.

"yea, sounds like s couple of ambitious prick are out to meet their quota in the first week so they can eat doughnuts the rest of the month. Sucks to hear.
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wow, probably one of the more ignorant things i have heard in a while. Congratulations rattlecanpaint!
 
Cops are like anyone else in that they have bad days, didn't get any last night, have a personal pet peeve you just crapped on etc.


But they usually have more important things to do than bust ballz over a borderline infraction.


As often as not when I hear stuff like this, when the truth comes out, the person was doing something else to attract attention to himself.


Sooo....
"while I have you pulled over, I think I will *inform* you of some other things you are doing wrong."


A warning, means they gave you a break. It COULD have been a ticket.
 
well the cop or whatever i should call the guy last night informed me that if he saw me out on the street, he would write me a lift ticket...
i had no idea this post was going to come to this but here it goes. i am from raleigh, i have had cops there help me on more than one occasion and one of my families best friends was a detective for the rpd (he is now pi). he and some of he close colleagues are some of the best friends of my family, and some of the best guys i know!
HOWEVER, greenville cops are by far the worst branch of any type of law enforcement i have ever heard of anywhere, period. prics would be one of the best ways i can describe them. it is amazing the number of cops you see in and around the campus writing poor students tickets for small infractions, most of which is victomless (if that is a word) crimes! meanwhile there a numerous rapes, murders, shootings, roberies, and mugging in greenville every week(or course not near campus because every 10th car you pass is po).it happens, i understand that, but i have had close friends that crimes like these have happened to, and there has never been arrest or anything else for that matter made. greenville cops do a poor job of protecting everyone, a poor job of personel management, and a very very poor job of haveing a public that respects them in anyway.
i realize that some of you might be offened by this or something, or say "they are just doing their job", but the thing is THEY AREN'T DOING THEIR JOB. untill you have experience greenville po from a student, alumini, or normal citizen of greenville standpoint, you have NO IDEA the ammount of bullshit we put up with from the pd.
 
ive done my fair share of time in cary, it does not compare to greenville. i lived in cary last summer and worked in apex, sure you might hear a bad cop story every now and then there, but in greenville it is awlful! trust me!
i know im ranting now, but im so sick of their shit i could spit!
 
If you're riding around in a Car-okee, I think you're fawked. But the actual text of the statute is as follows:

(a) Definitions. � For the purposes of this section, the term "private passenger automobile" shall mean a four‑wheeled motor vehicle designed principally for carrying passengers, for use on public roads and highways, except a multipurpose passenger vehicle which is constructed either on a truck chassis or with special features for occasional off‑road operation.
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(c) Repealed by Session Laws 1975, c. 856.
(d) The manufacturer's specified height of any passenger motor vehicle shall not be elevated or lowered, either in front or back, more than six inches by modification, alteration, or change of the physical structure of said vehicle without prior written approval of the Commissioner of Motor Vehicles.
On or after January 1, 1975, no self‑propelled passenger vehicle that has been so altered, modified or changed shall be operated upon any highway or public vehicular area without the prior written approval of the Commissioner. (1971, c. 485; 1973, cc. 58, 1082; 1975, c. 856.)
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So if it's on a truck chassis, you're exempt. I think it's pretty clear.

In fact, the NC LEO training manual that covers this section explicitly states that this rule "does not include off-road vehicles"
 
saf-t scissors said:
If you're riding around in a Car-okee, I think you're fawked. But the actual text of the statute is as follows:
So if it's on a truck chassis, you're exempt. I think it's pretty clear.
In fact, the NC LEO training manual that covers this section explicitly states that this rule "does not include off-road vehicles"
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So you're saying you can lift a truck more than 6" because it's not considered a passenger vehicle. Is that how that is interpreted? Also What about a 4 runner? It's got a frame like a truck.
 
Here's a fun greenville PO story:

I lived in a house with a driveway just big enough to fit half the vehicles of the occupants. one or two of us would always have to park on the street. now, this place is also near campus, so during the semester from 7am-6pm everyone else wants to park on this street too. so we try to squeeze everyone in we can without blocking driveways.

anyway, I had just gotten another vehicle, so I parked one in the driveway and one on the street a few feet from the edge of the driveway. not on the curb, not too far off the curb, just perfect. I left it there for a few days till one morning I wake up and it's gone.

A girl who lived upstairs saw me and told me that it got towed. I'm like WTF! why?! Parked too close to the driveway. you have got to be kidding me! I'm broke as fawk so I call my pops and tell him the situation. He ways WTF too, but says he will help me out if I need it.

I go to the PD and ask to talk to the officer about it. He gets all apeshit on me saying he was in the right and I am in the wrong. I say show me the law. He pulls out some bullshit city code saying that any vehicle less than 10 feet from a "tangent" or something like that in the street is in violation. I can't believe this guy would go through the trouble over something like that. I tell him I live at the house it was parked in front of and it has been there for days with no complaint, but he is belligerent.

I had to pay around $200 or so for the ticket and tow fees because this guy had to be a prick. I figure he is in collusion with the tow company, because I talked to a few people who ran into the same prick for the same type of bullshit violations and got towed by the SAME tow company.

I can't remember his name but if you are in greenville and you see the black guy with the heavy southern accent in the green chrysler(i think, its some type of bland sedan) giving out tickets around campus, give him the finger for me.

oh yeah, this guy was on the local news last year for towing a vehicle with someone's kid still in it. the lady parked in a no parking zone to run into a store or something like that. dickhead can't just write the ticket, has to tow everytime.

anyways that's one my greenville police stories.
 
HardTaco said:
Ditto.
"yea, sounds like s couple of ambitious prick are out to meet their quota in the first week so they can eat doughnuts the rest of the month. Sucks to hear.
Today 09:07 AM "
wow, probably one of the more ignorant things i have heard in a while. Congratulations rattlecanpaint!
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Hey, just my opinion. You know, they're like a$$holes, everyone's got one and they all stink. Much like your comment.:D
 
rattlecanpaint said:
Hey, just my opinion. You know, they're like a$$holes, everyone's got one and they all stink. Much like your comment.:D
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Its just the quota thing that gets me everytime. I dont care what anyone TELLS you, there are no quotas! Why can't people figure that out! Nothing personal....

Josh
 
If you're riding around in a Car-okee, I think you're fawked. But the actual text of the statute is as follows:

Quote:
(a) Definitions. � For the purposes of this section, the term "private passenger automobile" shall mean a four‑wheeled motor vehicle designed principally for carrying passengers, for use on public roads and highways, except a multipurpose passenger vehicle which is constructed either on a truck chassis or with special features for occasional off‑road operation.
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so how does a cherokee not fit this? are offroad packages with things such as skidplates not indications that the manufacturer constructed the vehicle with OCCASIONAL offroad use in mind?
 
nice gville pd story paul, but i got one better...
one friday night my soph year i had a lot of projects near the end of the semester, i decide to go ahead and work and take it easy for a weekend. a few of my friends(my GF and the time and some of her gf's) call me for a ride home around 2am or so, dont really remember. i drvie downtown and park, then walk to the bar they are at so they dont walk alone. im waiting outside for no more than a minute when 4 yes count them 4 gville po's surround me like im some sort of criminal. they ask for my ID and then escort me to one of their po cars. without any knowledge of what is going on(since i was informed not to talk) they give me a pinkslip, what was it for you might be thinking??? OBSTRUCTING A CITY SIDEWALK! i have never been more pissed off in my life. this is one of many entertaining gville pd stories i have. if you dont belive this story i still have the copy of my ticket, it is a great conversation piece.
time to calm down, its saturday night:beer: , maybe ill give another installment of the gville pd saga on sunday.
 
saftscissors summed up what my reply would be. it seems pretty clear to me that trucks and modified 4wd's in general are exempt from that statute. i was lectured in downtown durham about it a few years ago, but that's the only time. we were putting a big backflow valve in on the main water lines for one of the government buildings, and i think he just needed an exscuse to save face when he realized i was legitimately parked in a no parking zone (we had authorization to park there for access to the work area).

another case of a prick with daddy's money
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while he certainly can come off as and be a prick, i can say it appears to me he's personally supported his 4 wheeling hobby. sure, he went from stock 4 runner to buggy in a very short time but what does that mean? you've got a late model SAS'd taco, the same stereotype could be extended. hell, same for me with a 99 ram in pieces. even if it was true, i don't know anyone that would turn down a free buggy. i sure as hell wouldn't.
 
awspence said:
so how does a cherokee not fit this? are offroad packages with things such as skidplates not indications that the manufacturer constructed the vehicle with OCCASIONAL offroad use in mind?
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:rolleyes: Everybody knows......





Cherokees can't go off road. :flipoff2:
 
I have to agree about the greenville pd... I got a ticket for running a stop sign when i let people walk across at a cross walk. I was stopped for a while...no rolling stop. I even had witnesses on the street say the same thing. I also had my lifted tahoe towed from in front of my house in greenville from the same guy..I believe its a green crown vic. I was constantly harrassed about my tahoe over there. That is one of the reasons i transfered schools. A house two doors down got shot up and it took cops over twenty minutes to get there. I have many family members that are in law enforcement and respect officers a lot but for the most part...greenville has one of the worst police departments i have ever seen.
 
RufusTheRam said:
saftscissors summed up what my reply would be. it seems pretty clear to me that trucks and modified 4wd's in general are exempt from that statute. i was lectured in downtown durham about it a few years ago, but that's the only time. we were putting a big backflow valve in on the main water lines for one of the government buildings, and i think he just needed an exscuse to save face when he realized i was legitimately parked in a no parking zone (we had authorization to park there for access to the work area).
while he certainly can come off as and be a prick, i can say it appears to me he's personally supported his 4 wheeling hobby. sure, he went from stock 4 runner to buggy in a very short time but what does that mean? you've got a late model SAS'd taco, the same stereotype could be extended. hell, same for me with a 99 ram in pieces. even if it was true, i don't know anyone that would turn down a free buggy. i sure as hell wouldn't.
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My truck would be done and 4wd by now if pops gave me money :flipoff2:
 
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