NC seatbelt law help

Not to mention that I don't want somebody running head on into me and flying through their windshield into my windshield that will be in tact since myself and my passengers will be safely buckled. If you don't wear a seatbelt you're making yourself an irresponsible projectile :D

And just out of curiousity, what's so terrible about wearing a seatbelt anyway, is it just too "itchy" for some folks?
 
SpydyrWyr said:
Not to mention that I don't want somebody running head on into me and flying through their windshield into my windshield that will be in tact since myself and my passengers will be safely buckled. If you don't wear a seatbelt you're making yourself an irresponsible projectile :D

And just out of curiousity, what's so terrible about wearing a seatbelt anyway, is it just too "itchy" for some folks?
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This is the first arguement I have heard that makes a case (that I can buy) for the seat belt law.
Never thought about the human cannon ball aspect of it.
 
I think you are missing my point.
I understand
SEATBELT=GOOD
ACCIDENT NO SEATBELT = BAD.
OK I GOT IT.
BUT (let me repeat this analogy for those not reading the whole thing)
CONDOM = GOOD
NO CONDOM = AIDS
OK Now everyone MUST wear a condom it is a new NC law!
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You have to be kidding me.
There is a huge difference you are missing.
If I don't wear a condom, there aren't thousands of others in the bed that could make a mistake and fuck me at any time. I get to actually choose who I do it with, not the case in an accident.

Everyone is also missing the fact that if an accident or emergency situation arises and I am wearing my belt, I can stay in position in front of the steering wheel and maybe avoid making it worse or involving others instead of ping ponging around the interior of my vehicle. My wife, my little boy, and all those that ride with me are depending on me to do everything within my power and use all methods avalable to protect myself and others. Me being in my seat and in control is worth it for a little bit of uncomfortable.
For me, it is uncomfortable to ride without my belt on. Even moving a car around the house it just feels weird.
Should everyone wear there seatbelt- Yes
Do they-no
Does the law raise the number of those who do and lower traffic fatalities - yes.

It seems like we, as people who push our vehicles harder than most, would be all for anything to promote safety.
 
Hey, I agree with you completely. I always wear mine and it is obviously a great tool. However, it should most certainly not be a law.

And Ratlabguy...How exactly is a parliamentary system opposing democracy? All my political science textbooks talk about how a key political component of Europe is parliamentary democracies...but they might be wrong.

Aaaand also democracy and socialism are opposing theories in many paradigms...so its not wise do automatically assume socialism is purely a financial theory. Infact, in many political paradigms including realism, liberalism, and dependency...socialism is viewed as a complete political system that entails social, financial, and of course political factors. Also...there is a tiny little book about 98 pages long called The Communist Manifesto that would clearly indicate that socialism is much more complex than a financial system. In fact, Friedrich and Karl both refer to communism as their novel concept that arose from borrowing concepts from other countries, namely British Political Economy, british philosophy, and from a complete political system...French socialism.


HIJACK
 
uglyjeepoffroad said:
You have to be kidding me.
There is a huge difference you are missing.
If I don't wear a condom, there aren't thousands of others in the bed that could make a mistake and fuck me at any time. I get to actually choose who I do it with, not the case in an accident.

Everyone is also missing the fact that if an accident or emergency situation arises and I am wearing my belt, I can stay in position in front of the steering wheel and maybe avoid making it worse or involving others instead of ping ponging around the interior of my vehicle. My wife, my little boy, and all those that ride with me are depending on me to do everything within my power and use all methods avalable to protect myself and others. Me being in my seat and in control is worth it for a little bit of uncomfortable.
For me, it is uncomfortable to ride without my belt on. Even moving a car around the house it just feels weird.
Should everyone wear there seatbelt- Yes
Do they-no
Does the law raise the number of those who do and lower traffic fatalities - yes.

It seems like we, as people who push our vehicles harder than most, would be all for anything to promote safety.
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So you're saying that if it weren't a law you wouldn't wear it? I would wear mine whether or not it was a law.
 
jeep9mm said:
And Ratlabguy...How exactly is a parliamentary system opposing democracy? All my political science textbooks talk about how a key political component of Europe is parliamentary democracies...but they might be wrong.

Aaaand also democracy and socialism are opposing theories in many paradigms...so its not wise do automatically assume socialism is purely a financial theory. Infact, in many political paradigms including realism, liberalism, and dependency...socialism is viewed as a complete political system that entails social, financial, and of course political factors. Also...there is a tiny little book about 98 pages long called The Communist Manifesto that would clearly indicate that socialism is much more complex than a financial system. In fact, Friedrich and Karl both refer to communism as their novel concept that arose from borrowing concepts from other countries, namely British Political Economy, british philosophy, and from a complete political system...French socialism.


HIJACK
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Hm. You are absoluetly correct, and I agree with you. I think in my haste to just get this out I overlooked clarity etc. I did not mean that a parlimentary system is the "opposite" of democracy, simply that technically it is just another/different system from ours and falls under the catagory of "how people get into office and how laws become laws", as opposed the catagory of "how people spread/deal with wealth and welfare".
And yes, "socialism" is a very complex deal that will inlcude how laws get made etc. My point was simply that democracy is not the opposite of socialism and they can indeed come together. I guess thsi is what happens when you try to compress politics into a discussion quick-and-dirty like.

End Hijack.
 
All I've got to say after reading this post is Thank God for the freedom of speech, since our democracy is so f*#ked up.
 
"if not down right unconstitutional to require an adult to wear a seatbelt in a vehicle they are driving?"

I just read the constitution, I did not see any thin about diving a vehicle. For over 15 years i have been cleaning up wrecks! Sit down, shut up, buckle up and stay in the the car as it flips down the highway. I have seen to may inasent dashboard, windsheilds, and streeingwheels destroded by people flying in to them. not to mention staing in the driver seat so that you are sill in control after someone hits you.

maybe we should ligelize dricking and driving

Sorry for the flaming, just seen to much death on the job.
 
"The point is I choose not to wear a seatbelt Worst case scenario I die.
Who has been harmed? "

It takes more time and money to clean up the hwy after you die!
 
RatLabGuy said:
Rocky Mount
It is required that you must pay a property tax on your dog.
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Sounds like Charlotte/ mecklinburg
 
Stump said:
Sounds like Charlotte/ mecklinburg
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Yup here too (Forsyth)
Actually, get this, we actually got a fine assessed for not having paid taxes on our CAT ($5/yr I think). Don't know how they even knew, guess it must have been through the vet??
I mean come on, at least people go to trouble to acquire a dog - cats just kind of, er, happen...
 
Stump said:
"if not down right unconstitutional to require an adult to wear a seatbelt in a vehicle they are driving?"

I just read the constitution, I did not see any thin about diving a vehicle. For over 15 years i have been cleaning up wrecks! Sit down, shut up, buckle up and stay in the the car as it flips down the highway. I have seen to may inasent dashboard, windsheilds, and streeingwheels destroded by people flying in to them. not to mention staing in the driver seat so that you are sill in control after someone hits you.

maybe we should ligelize dricking and driving

Sorry for the flaming, just seen to much death on the job.
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Stump,
forgive me but you missed MY ENTIRE POINT.

#1 If you will re-read my post I ALWAYS wear a seat belt.
#2 Why not "ligelize dricking and driving". Well if you "drick" to much you can lose your ability to control your car and therforr harm OTHERS
#3 The constitution does not mention driving, that is totally irrelevant. It does protect our freedom from prosecution of unjust laws. You can not make a law just because it seems nice, it must serve to better society as a whole.

I'm done with this its beat to death and refuse to keep kicking.
 
Unless its illegal or immoral then they can sue you once you fire them
 
They can fire you for no reason in NC and you have no rights, it's a right to work state.

That is if you are a white male, any other race or sex and you may have recourse.
 
thebluyak said:
Unless its illegal or immoral then they can sue you once you fire them
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:rolleyes:

In ANY employment contract that wasn't written by a college freshman, it will have a provision for disruptive behavior, insubordination, or something along those lines that can basically equate to "because I said so"..

Oh wait, it's gonna take YEARS to get your case seen anyway, and by that time, who cares...
 
The Beast is bsolutely correct, NC is a right to work state, what that means is any non compete clause you sign will never hold up in court, but also that you can be fired for any or no reason.

Literally someone can fire you for any reason (except discrimination, and honestly good luck winning that in this state). A few years back we literally drew straws at a company I worked at to see who we fired (business took a drastic downturn)It sucks but it is legal!
 
rattlecanpaint said:
So you're saying that if it weren't a law you wouldn't wear it? I would wear mine whether or not it was a law.
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I always wear mine. I even stated in my post above that I felt weird even moving a car in my driveway without a seatbelt on. I was mainly showing the insanity of SKyHI's analogy about condoms. And seatbelts do affect others due to the fact that you are better in control of your vehicle in an emergency situation when belted behind the wheel.
I am glad it is a law and it doesn't affect me in the least because I always wear mine. It shouldn't have to be a law because most (somewhat intelligent) people could find no reason not to wear a belt.
 
I am not one of those "da man is puttin ya down" type of people....but Its a free country, we have individual rights.... I agree that belts save lives, but i just dont like having someone tell me what i have to do "for my own good"....
 
The Beast said:
...and you have no rights, ...
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Yes you do you have rights: the right to work, or hit the road, and live off every body else!

I beleive that if you are stoopid enough to ride w/o seatbelts you should be able to it will "thin out the surplus population"(scrooge) survival of the fittest. as a matter of fact i think they should remove all warning labels... if you're dumb enough to stick your fingers in a lawn mower or fan belt... the world really doesn't need you or your offspring. Has any one seen the video of the dummys lightying the bottle rovcket from his butt. It's people like that that make me think like that.
 
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