NEED HELP SERIOUS DEATH WOBBLE

Torque rod is a link that mounts to the axle and frame (on rigs w frames) in a front to rear orientation to hold and help prevent the axle from twisting when you brake hard or put torque to the ground ( power thru the driveshaft or brakes to the tires) that wants to twist the axle ( think about a dragster lifting the front wheels off the ground caused by the torque trying to turn the car around the axle) Braking forces cause the front to dive or opposite of the dragster lifting example because the rotational force is reversed so to speak. Leaf spring vehicles need torque rods in the front in some instances to hold the axle from twisting from the aforementioned forces that may cause steering problems if the draglink is orientated in a front/rear direction ( factory Toyota front solid axle) by changing the distance from the steering box and knuckle causing the knuckles/tie rod to move left or right while the wheel is held steady ( torque steer ). Up and down suspension travel (bumps, dips in the road etc) and torque( like hard braking) will also cause the front axle to twist and the steering draglink to move and change the distance from the frame/steering unit to the axle changing the steering knuckles position ( Brake steer) while the steering wheel is held steady, but axle twisting is much more troublesome as the effect is more. 4 links do not need torque rods as the links themselves control the twisting and are really 4 torque rods. Track bars hold the axle to the frame or unibody in a left to right orientation to keep the the axle centered left to right under the rig, much more important on coil/link spring suspensions to keep the axle in place under the rig. Most leaf spring suspensions do not have or need them as the leaves themselves hold the axle securely in place side to side. When you put ENORMOUS much heavier tires on small trucks w small axles/brakes/suspension/steering parts ( Toyota leaf springs are rather narrow compared to full size trucks for example) these twisting/and side to side forces often cannot be controlled well and cause dangerous steering, driveability and longevity issues on the road, but w a side to side steering system as you have a torque rod may or may not be needed/ effective. Weak steering boxes/linkages made for factory sized wheels and tires are not made for Big, fat wide tires and they will wonder and steer themselves on patched pavement and in the ruts most asphalt roads have in them from heavy trucks, semis, dumptrucks, cement trucks etc. driving on and deforming the asphalt so you may notice the truck steers better on a concrete interstate, or a mall parking lot.
 
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DeathWobble is:
Random. Started by road imperfections. When I have experienced it, it was caused by bridge expansion joints or sections of very rough road.
Does not go away wqwithouttopping or almost stopping
Violent. The wheels shakes back and forth with enough force to hurt you.
Visible externally. You can see the front wheels bouncing up and down.

It is not:
Predictable. If it happens at 35mph every time it's not DW.
If you can drive through it, it's not DW. That shake in the wheel is not DW.
If you don't feel the need to pull over and gather yourself after it happens, it's not DW.
If your passenger is not screaming, it's not DW.
If cars in the other lanes do not notice it, it's not DW.
DW is not a vibration or shimmy.
 
Hunter44 said:
so if yall could say one solution possibly it would be needing a track bar???
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If I am limited to only 1 solution I am going to say engineering.
I cant see the front as well because of light but the rear shackles look huge, the leafs look narrow.
The tires are big and heavy...

A track bar/panhard bar would get you pointed the right direction but I wouldnt wager on it singularly solving your issues
 
Your also asking ALOT from a single stabilizer between 2 44/ 18s?. I can tell when mine gets worn and needs replacing w 33 12.50s. You prolly need at least 3 high quality ones to have much effect on those 44s. I think your " death wobble " is just the tires themselves, their built in imperfections and massive size/weight rotating in semi uncontrolled manner because the steering can't control their weight and roadforce if you have a stock Toyota PS unit.
 
in a perfect world where all other suspension geometry and components were correct. No steering dampner should be required regardless of tire size. A dampner or "stabilizer" will hide other imperfections and bigger/more dampners will hide bigger imperfections...but they are never the answer only a "fix".
 
My solution would be buy a tow rig and do not drive that death trap on the road and risk killing my family or anyone else.

Not hating on your truck. I guess it looks cool if your into that, but it's not a very functional set up. I agree with everyone else that its tire related. Your tires weigh nearly half what the truck does, steering at a crazy angle, probably lots of side to side play with that big of leaf springs with shackles.

Again not hating, just pointing it out. Trucks that tall are not typically very functional.
 
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