New bypass at Kodak

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There is a new bypass at Kodak rock on Rocky Mountain Loop, where the guardrail is. Please don't park on it or at the top blocking it. It is mainly to keep from tearing up stockers and keeping people from getting hurt on quads.
 
that's crap. why the hell is there a new bypass? if you can't do the trail, stay the fawk off of it!
 
RufusTheRam said:
that's crap. why the hell is there a new bypass? if you can't do the trail, stay the fawk off of it!
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Slow down there webwheeler, if you have ever been there when its busy it causes a huge trafic jam, plus there is two way traffic. plus like it or not 4-wheelers ride there too, a bypass keeps them out of our way.
 
no, it's horseshit. bypasses have their place, but not for pansy asses that don't want body damage and not for the 4 wheelers that can't ride a few rocks. there's already a bypass to the left, why is there need for another one?

mark the trail and tell people to stay the hell off of it if they don't want to take the risk.
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oh damn, you got me...:shaking:
 
Guess someone should have consulted you before they did something to a public trail.

I don't go there often, but if it was needed I am glad to see it done.
 
Hey Pal!! Uwharrie is for everyone that wants to go! 4-wheelers don't have a trail to there own so why do you need one of your own? I agree with Upnover, I,m glad its there so everyone can enjoy the trails!!


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I say just be glad you have a trail. Where i live the idiots were tearing the trails up needlessly o they shut them down for everythign EXCEPT 4 wheelers
 
hey some people try and just cant do it :( so we have 2 back all the way back down and go around
 
RufusTheRam said:
no, it's horseshit. bypasses have their place, but not for pansy asses that don't want body damage and not for the 4 wheelers that can't ride a few rocks. there's already a bypass to the left, why is there need for another one?
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Sorry, not everyone is the ure badass that you are, plenty of stockers go there who don't want body damage, same with 4-wheelers, moutain bikes, motorcycles etc. It's a public trail system, who gives a crap if they made a bypass in the intrest of saftey and trafic flow.

Now if they would just make some harder stuff, they have plenty of big rocks right off the trail.

But I guess then people would wine and bitch cause they had stuff was to hard.
 
there are other better alternatives to the problem besides making a new bypass.
4-wheelers don't have a trail to there own so why do you need one of your own?
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where did i say 4 wheelers shoudn't be allowed to share the same trails? my point is they, just like the "stockers" being saved, should stay off the trail if they can't handle it.
Guess someone should have consulted you before they did something to a public trail.
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yeah, they should have actually. as well as any other upstanding citizen that supports public land monetarily.
I,m glad its there so everyone can enjoy the trails!!
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right. we should destroy even more natural public forest land just because some idiots don't know how to stay off trails they don't belong on. sure, we'll just go ahead and give the tree huggers more ammo...:shaking:
 
It's a public trail system, who gives a crap if they made a bypass in the intrest of saftey and trafic flow
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yeah, great philosophy... hell, lets just go ahead and bypass upper 2, etc. and every other trail a stocker can't do without damage in the public ohv areas:shaking:

plenty of stockers go there who don't want body damage, same with 4-wheelers, moutain bikes, motorcycles etc.
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then stick to the trails you can do without damage. it's not a hard concept, that's what the trail ratings are for. uwharrie or any other place.
 
Personally I think that the NFS made a good decision by creating a bypass complete with highway style guard rails that will keep the traffic on the trail. This should cut down on the big back up at Kodak.
 
RufusTheRam said:
no, it's horseshit. bypasses have their place, but not for pansy asses that don't want body damage and not for the 4 wheelers that can't ride a few rocks. there's already a bypass to the left, why is there need for another one?
mark the trail and tell people to stay the hell off of it if they don't want to take the risk.
oh damn, you got me...:shaking:
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better to be thought a fool then to open your mouth and reveal all doubt :flipoff2:
 
Rocky mountain loop is the center trail in the system, we are working to open harder trails so the modified rigs can have fun. The dozer has been kept off Daniel because of the work done on the other trails. The hiway guardrails were put up because dumbasses were tearing down the wooden fence about as fast as we could fix it. I don't like the fences much but if people don't stay on the marked trails the system will be shut down. The "bypass" is really the old trail and Kodak rock is the new trail. I supose we could have returned to the old trail and shut down the rock climbing part. Simple fix is to show up on work days and let your wishes be known.
 
RufusTheRam,


Relax man!!!!
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exscuse me for being passionate about the directions our chosen hobby takes.
Personally I think that the NFS made a good decision by creating a bypass complete with highway style guard rails that will keep the traffic on the trail. This should cut down on the big back up at Kodak.
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agreed... i think such permanent/not easily moveable barriers are a great idea vs. the post/rail fences. i don't agree with making additional bypasses to make a trail easier though.
The "bypass" is really the old trail and Kodak rock is the new trail.
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well that changes things then... the way your original post was worded, a whole new bypass has been forged...
 
I love bypasses. As mentioned above, they keep the traffic moving. The other advantage is that guys with built rigs can take the stocker friends out to uwharrie and ride the hard trails with them. If you have a new guy with you the only options used to be to skip kodak rock or leave him behind. Now everybody can come along.

On a related note, whenever I'm looking for a place to go I consider bypasses a major plus. Groups can ride together, broken rigs can make it out easier, etc. I'd like to see just about every hard obstacle have a bypass next to it so friends with stock tacos and 4runners can come along.
 
Everyone just relax.....BOTH SIDES.

I can see why someone wouldn't want a bypass and why they would. It makes sense both ways, so everyone just take it easy and chill. I'm not even gonna voice my opinion. Its what the leaders of the trail system thought best, so I will accept it, whether I like it or not.

and please keep the personal stuff on the trails :flipoff2: ....not here!


Josh
 
As I stated before, I don't go to URE that often. Those that live close are lucky to have something close to go out and have a fun filled day without having to drive 2 or 3 hours or more to get there. The last time I was there in September, I did notice a lot of the wood railing fence was down or destroyed. I applaud anyone that goes out and works on a trail. I myself do good to be able to wheel with the back issues I have. I do participate in clean up days at Tellico though. Why not have a by pass that will allow other rigs to enjoy a trail. If there is one or two places a rig can't go, why not have an easy go around ? Many people get the "fever, by watching what a built rig can do. Then they go out and start buying and building. This even at a small scale, does help the economy. Many people build, and sell products that are four wheeling related. Just as I do. A bypass my take a small part of the natural layout away, but it keeps it from being destroyed if it's not a planned project. A lot of land closures happen because of people going off the trail and abusing it.
These trails are kept open with volunteer workers. To save money the government would just close them instead of providing the man power to keep them clean and maintained.
Rufus, dude, need to rethink your comments. A check up from the neck up, because you have some stinkin' thinkin'
 
The good thing is that the director of UNF will listen to the OHV community and she has made decisions that have improved the trail system for all users. Deborah's (the new head ranger) husband is an avid off-roader. Here is a trail report I wrote earlier this years after a weekend trip wheeling. It details some of the things that she has done already.

Had a good run. I ran Rocky Mountain Loop first and made the trip to Kodak Rock. It appears that the ledge below Kodak is getting pretty impossible to get over. I watched a couple of guys nearly roll on it. The trails have been cleaned up and a lot of water barriers have been installed. I am VERY impressed with the NFS and other truck clubs progress on improving UNF. The new ranger in charge if very OHV friendly. The evidence is there already. Most trails were dry and easily passable. The normal tough spots were very easy for the most part. Dicky Bell was no problem, Daniel was no problem and it appears that the ledge on Daniel has wore down a little so getting over it was pretty easy. Dutch John has had a dozer run down it so its in fine shape. The NFS has had the dozer out during the winter. 8) I ran all the trails and never had any issue. The NFS has left a couple of good MUD holes for people to play in BUT they have also bocked off quite of off trail mud holes using wire fence rather than the split rail thats so easy for the idiots of the world to tear down. I saw a couple of quad riders without helmets and one of them told me that they were asked to leave because they did not have a helmet on. Thats a good sign. The rangers are enforcing the rules. I met the new Ranger in charge. Deborah was walking the trails as I was on the way out and I spoke to her. She is definitely a OHVers friend and has already shown that she has what it takes to improve Uwharrie. She mentioned that they are also looking at opening another group camp that will tie into the trail system. I discussed a few issues the the OHV community has and she is very receptive to us. I have really been fed up with the NFS in the past at Uwharrie but there may actually be hope for the place now. There was a lot of trash left on the trail though. I told her about the scavenger hunt at the Zuwharrie event and she was really excited about it. I really enjoyed my run yesterday. I may go back for a day run this comming weekend hopefully.
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Needless to say she has gone a couple steps further. At the Zuwharrie events she gets a few minutes on stage. Most all of her words spoken there was pro-offroad. She also was a key player in getting the helmet rule for ATVers which I support fully. If you ever get chance to meet Deborah you might want to thank her, her staff and the clubs that support the UNFS. They (the NFS) do a great job compared to the job that was done in years past. The clubs have always done a great job. :Rockon:
 
i like the bypass . i dont take it , but some of my friends do. its great that they can go up the trail too. it gives them a little more technical driving experience. the bypass can also aid in the fact that if a built rig breaks down we could have an easier way to get off the trail safely and out of everyones way. ive already noticed that the trail in those spots dont get as clogged up. im also glad its there so when rookie wheelers go out and look at those rocks and say im not gonna go through that, ill just make my own path. now we have a problem. because this does and will happen with people that dont know any better and it causes problems for veteran wheelers. so yes the bypass in my opinion is a great idea. and im not bitchin at anyone , just posting my 2 cents. thanks.
 
you don't likethe bypass, don't take it... not everyone in the groups I've ridden with is built to the hilt. but we like to ride together just the same. this afford groups as such to stick together and the smaller rigs get to see what they could do if they built theirs up big enough to play on the harder obstacles.

let's just go remove the bypasses at Helo pad and guardrail....
 
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