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BriGTi

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Went to Uwharrie for first time last fall and had a great time even being completely stock. What I'm curious about is the ability to make trails go one way to get rid of the tight squeezes when you meet oncoming traffic especially in certain areas of trails?
Is it not possible to do based on where trails go? Or is it just that it could never be enforced?
Seems like if certain trails had times where you either go up or down it would help with getting caught with a caravan going the opposite direction.
Just curious.
Thanks for responses.
 
It has been discussed numerous times. It is just not something that is feasible or really wanted by most folks out there.
 
krzyabncanuck said:
It has been discussed numerous times. It is just not something that is feasible or really wanted by most folks out there.
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That's what I figured and I guess as you get use to it it's less of a big deal.
It was my first time and my friends and I jumped on a trail and within a hundred yards our do we had to figure out how to get a land rover caravan through with no room to get over.
Either way loved it and can't wait to get my yearly pass this year.
 
That is why we try to keep passing spots available on the trails. It is tight but there are cut offs you can go a few feet down to be able to get people past you. Then back out and continue your ride.
 
Yea as our day there went on it was much more evident that there were built in pull offs. I think we were just so close to the beginning of the trail nothing was setup there yet.
 
krzyabncanuck said:
That is why we try to keep passing spots available on the trails. It is tight but there are cut offs you can go a few feet down to be able to get people past you. Then back out and continue your ride.
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I cheat and do most of my trips on weekdays. ;)
 
Good to know that it is less busy during the week. I'm a teacher with summers off so I might have to try during the week more often.
 
There's a map posted on here that shows the "accepted" direction to run the trails. The more difficult ones, daniel and Dutch John especially, are normally run one way and are a lot more fun the direction indicated.
 
A little wiggle room was definitely needed Saturday. Bunch of hills you needed to get momentum to get up and saw several jeeps sliding back down.
 
Another problem is some groups are too big. Personally, I don't like to ride in a group of more than 5 rigs. Progress slows way down.
 
kaiser715 said:
One thing that makes meeting traffic worse is the way groups like to go nose to ass on the trails.
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One thing that makes meeting traffic worse is groups (cough, Rovers, cough) who insist on riding around in convoys of 30 vehicles.
 
drkelly said:
Another problem is some groups are too big. Personally, I don't like to ride in a group of more than 5 rigs. Progress slows way down.
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I started the day with a group of 11 JKs and after making it up two small hill climbs in 2 hours, 4 of us broke off and hit the rest of the trail system by sundown. You couldn't be more right.
 
I'm new and have questions.

1. Like boating are there rules of the trail? IE In boating, boats traveling downstream have the right of way. Is there something similar like 4x4 going downhill has the right of way? Is there a page on trail etiquette?
2. I live not far from Uwharrie. Is there a place to park and walk up to some trails and watch some of the trail action. I'm not ready put my new jk into harms way yet.....can't afford to fix it:)


Hello BTW!
 
P8triots said:
I'm new and have questions.

1. Like boating are there rules of the trail? IE In boating, boats traveling downstream have the right of way. Is there something similar like 4x4 going downhill has the right of way? Is there a page on trail etiquette?
2. I live not far from Uwharrie. Is there a place to park and walk up to some trails and watch some of the trail action. I'm not ready put my new jk into harms way yet.....can't afford to fix it:)


Hello BTW!
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Welcome! To answer your first question most trails at Uwharrie (URE) are able to be run in both directions, with that there is not an official rule about who gets to go. Most people practice common sense (most people that is) and if there is small group vs a big group, then usually the big group will stop and let the small group go. I also look to see who can get out of the way the easiest, meaning a lot of the trail are tight and not "two lanes" so someone has to find a pull off spot.

For quesiton 2, I owuld say ride with somebody to get a gauge on the trails. Most people are happy to have the company on the trail. You can walk the entire trail system, so if that is your thing, have at it.

Remember these couple things and you will have a great time at URE: don't be a dick, don't litter, and learn from the guys that have been doing this a long time.
 
P8triots said:
I'm new and have questions.

1. Like boating are there rules of the trail? IE In boating, boats traveling downstream have the right of way. Is there something similar like 4x4 going downhill has the right of way? Is there a page on trail etiquette?
2. I live not far from Uwharrie. Is there a place to park and walk up to some trails and watch some of the trail action. I'm not ready put my new jk into harms way yet.....can't afford to fix it:)


Hello BTW!
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Generally uphill has the right of way, it's harder to gain momentum back going uphill, gravity helps you down. That said I stop at the top or bottom of most major hill climbs, whether it's in ure (such as the main climbs on Daniel, dickey bell, and dutch John), the Flats, or Harlan and listen for other traffic, if someone is already on the hill I'll wait for them to finish.

Like golf, I'll pull over and let a faster moving group "play through" like if a group of ATVs or dirt bikes come up from behind.

I also use the bigger vehicle or bigger group has right of way rule. For example if my dad and I with a f150 and a bronco come up on a group of 4 or more rigs it's generally easier for us to find a place to get two trucks off the trail and wait than it is to find a place for 4+ rigs. If I come up on a group of 1-2 jeeps it may be easier for them to make way for my full-size truck. Exceptions are i usually won't make a brand new truck or jeep squeeze into the brush since mines already scratched and dented up or if I just happen to have a convenient place to pull off.

Most of the time ATVs and bikes will pull over if they meet you head on, which goes back to it being easier for them to clear the trail than a Jeep or truck.

Also people hiking, bicycling, or on horseback have right of way over motorized vehicles, and I am really easy around people on horseback so I don't spook the horses.

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Tim C said:
Most of the time ATVs and bikes will pull over if they meet you head on, which goes back to it being easier for them to clear the trail than a Jeep or truck.
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Actually...if you meet a motorcycle head on, or one comes up behind you, just pull to one side or the other for JUST a second. It literally takes less than 10 seconds for a bike to wiggle by you (in either direction) whereas it will take YOU a good 3 minutes to pass them sitting still for YOU, not to mention all in your group.

What many are not realizing, is that motorcycles can cover ALL the trails at URE in less than 2 hours on a weekday (no traffic). They can pass a group of 20 vehicles in less than a couple of minutes. There's nothing more frustrating about riding URE on motorcycles than coming up behind some twatwaffle that KNOWS you're back there, yet refuses to acknowledge you for hundreds of yards. Don't be that douchbag....it's because of THOSE kind of queefsuckers that makes the motorcycle riders predisposed to assume ALL vehicle drivers are that damn inconsiderate
 
CasterTroy said:
Actually...if you meet a motorcycle head on, or one comes up behind you, just pull to one side or the other for JUST a second. It literally takes less than 10 seconds for a bike to wiggle by you (in either direction) whereas it will take YOU a good 3 minutes to pass them sitting still for YOU, not to mention all in your group.

What many are not realizing, is that motorcycles can cover ALL the trails at URE in less than 2 hours on a weekday (no traffic). They can pass a group of 20 vehicles in less than a couple of minutes. There's nothing more frustrating about riding URE on motorcycles than coming up behind some twatwaffle that KNOWS you're back there, yet refuses to acknowledge you for hundreds of yards. Don't be that douchbag....it's because of THOSE kind of queefsuckers that makes the motorcycle riders predisposed to assume ALL vehicle drivers are that damn inconsiderate
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I always pull over for faster groups coming up from behind, but usually ATVs and dirt bike bail off to the side when I meet them head on. Since they're usually stopped I keep trucking. If there's a wide enough area of trail which there is 99% of the time when you're talking ATVs or bikes I'll pull to the right and creep slow and they'll pass right on by.

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