I get it I'm a know it all and just want to argue SUV superiority, but Wife and I rarely park in tight spaces (door dings piss me off), we'll park in the emptiest part of the parking lot and walk...and when we do have to park somewhere tight, we've found the rear hatch to be more convenient because then you're not blocking seating with said box or groceries. And I also figure if I'm parked close enough to need a sliding door for a kid, my fat ass is f*cked if I then have to open a swing out door to get in. For the record, the wife did try several minivan recommendations from her fellow mothers, and neither of us really understood what the hub bub was about (and actually brought kids/car seats for a thorough test).