Only cool thing I have seen

tireburner1975

tireburner1975

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Driving to Chicago and this is the only thing worth taking pictures of. Just past Lafayette Indiana.
Literally miles and miles of wind turbines as far as you see. They are much larger than I thought.

Well I did see a tour bus on its lid with lanes shut down and a crane up righting it. But not picture worthy.

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those are all over IN, IL, and more being put up, neat and the tech is cool, but really, they're a fawking eyesore.
 
That bus wreck was just on the news... church group on bus. 3 people killed..

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I first saw windmills just outside of Carver, Mass. back during the first week of April. They really are fawking huge. I'm not sure why they're such an eyesore to most people though.
 
Blkvoodoo said:
those are all over IN, IL, and more being put up, neat and the tech is cool, but really, they're a fawking eyesore.
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They are a scam, IMO. Just like solar farms. The companies putting them in make money hand over fist with all the subsidies they get. Moore County just canned a proposed solar ordinance based on the fact that the Planning Board believed that too much of the money came from the tax payers.
 
GotWood said:
Was the bus accident on I-465?
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powerstrokin04 said:
That bus wreck was just on the news... church group on bus. 3 people killed..

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powerstrokin04 said:
And yes i465

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Well now I feel like shit, it was on a cross road. Not on the highway, unless they were coming off the highway. They had the ramp closed, couldn't see much from the highway til I was past it. I had been driving g since 7am I wasn't sure where I was, just following the GPS. The roads are terrible this way.

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Macdaddy4738 said:
They are a scam, IMO. Just like solar farms. The companies putting them in make money hand over fist with all the subsidies they get. Moore County just canned a proposed solar ordinance based on the fact that the Planning Board believed that too much of the money came from the tax payers.
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I can see this, less than 20% of them were turning and slow if they were.

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They are all turning today

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We live in the "Saudi Arabia" of wind energy. Tornado ally is a perfect spot to put up thousands of these. Would you rather give billions for wind energy or billions for nuclear?

Yes the subsidized amount is ridiculous, 30% of total cost for now, but all for the encouragement to get off foreign energy which is a possibility. This is a real investment with real dividends for our nations future.

Compared to Europe, we are behind on this technology but are catching up quickly.
 
EdJonesJeeper said:
We live in the "Saudi Arabia" of wind energy. Tornado ally is a perfect spot to put up thousands of these. Would you rather give billions for wind energy or billions for nuclear?

Yes the subsidized amount is ridiculous, 30% of total cost for now, but all for the encouragement to get off foreign energy which is a possibility. This is a real investment with real dividends for our nations future.

Compared to Europe, we are behind on this technology but are catching up quickly.
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All of this would be much more valid if wind energy was an efficient, reliable, cost-effective way to make electricity. There are a lot of things "compared to Europe, we are behind on" but I like wearing jeans that aren't too tight and driving a truck too :p
IMHO, nuclear is the way to go, and we should be putting effort and subsidies into dealing with nuclear waste, but I'll stop now since this is general chit chat...
 
Loganwayne said:
ask china how nuclear went for them
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I assume you mean Japan?

Now lets talk numbers.
A wind farm of equal output (electrical MW) will cost 7-8 times the cost of the same Nuclear installation. But the good news is the Nuclear installation only last 3 times as long.
 
jeepinmatt said:
All of this would be much more valid if wind energy was an efficient, reliable, cost-effective way to make electricity. There are a lot of things "compared to Europe, we are behind on" but I like wearing jeans that aren't too tight and driving a truck too :p
IMHO, nuclear is the way to go, and we should be putting effort and subsidies into dealing with nuclear waste, but I'll stop now since this is general chit chat...
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Haha, I work for a Swedish company, so I know the too tight jeans thing. WTF?

I am a believer in power from nuclear plants.
 
Dam nut hugger pants. I just don't get it. They have to be uncomfortable as hell. They look like they are two sizes too small.
 
Ron said:
Now lets talk numbers.
A wind farm of equal output (electrical MW) will cost 7-8 times the cost of the same Nuclear installation. But the good news is the Nuclear installation only last 3 times as long.
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3 times as long? The waste or the energy produced?

I'm confused. Nuclear waste is a huge issue and there is no way to contain it efficiently. Japan has run out of places to put their waste and can't keep cool what they do have stored.



And teh ladies love ze nut huggers :)
 
A few of us remember but what happened in 1978-79 that changed our energy policy maybe forever....



Three mile island. And it took the US 30 years to break ground on the next plant after that happened. But that plant from what I read somewhere is being postponed till further notice.... Another 30 years who knows.

The day Japan happened Germany began immediately shutting down their nuclear and pushing wind harder.
 
EdJonesJeeper said:
3 times as long? The waste or the energy produced?

I'm confused. Nuclear waste is a huge issue and there is no way to contain it efficiently. Japan has run out of places to put their waste and can't keep cool what they do have stored.



And teh ladies love ze nut huggers :)
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I understand the (small) amount of waste is an issue, but its not true that we havent figured out how to effectively handle it, we just havent totally resolved how to do so cost effectively.

The problem with wind turbines is the damn things cost so much, that they actually wear out before they ROI. And then you have to pay for the generators that start the things or turn them towards prevailing currents etc.
 
EdJonesJeeper said:
A few of us remember but what happened in 1978-79 that changed our energy policy maybe forever....



Three mile island. And it took the US 30 years to break ground on the next plant after that happened. But that plant from what I read somewhere is being postponed till further notice.... Another 30 years who knows.
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sort of true. No new plant sites have been built but new reactors have been built and are currently being built. I know VC Summer, Vogtle and Watts Bar all have new reactors being built as we speak plus there will be a new nuclear reactor boiler plant built in SC in the next 5-10 years (Cherokee) on the broad river.

The nuclear renaissance is alive and well, despite liberal fear mongering that it will kill us all and make our babies glow green.
 
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