options other than gravel

rabb11d

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Anyone have any options other than gravel for a driveway?
It is time for more gravel on my driveway, it needs two loads of washed stone.
Currently running 850 for a dump truck load.
Are there any cheaper or better options?
 
Anyone have any options other than gravel for a driveway?
It is time for more gravel on my driveway, it needs two loads of washed stone.
Currently running 850 for a dump truck load.
Are there any cheaper or better options?
I do abc instead of wash. It locks in and doesn't move like washed. My driveway is just under 200yds and I haven't put anything on it in 6yrs. Ill hit it with the box blade about twice a year and pull up enough rocks to smooth everything back out. Crushed concrete is an option but ive always heard it is really messy when wet.
 
I do abc instead of wash. It locks in and doesn't move like washed. My driveway is just under 200yds and I haven't put anything on it in 6yrs. Ill hit it with the box blade about twice a year and pull up enough rocks to smooth everything back out. Crushed concrete is an option but ive always heard it is really messy when wet.I
I have a good base, all the washed stone has packed in so now the stone dust is making mud mess. So it slings all over the truck and tracks grit in the garage.
 
Considered having someone run one of those rotary deals that "fluffs" the existing gravel. But not sure if that would help any with the gravel mud crap.
 
Not sure. I know it is a thing, just no experience with it. Also heard of crushed concrete.
Be careful with crushed concrete
10/10 chance of WWM bits and pieces mixed in

I've had great luck with crushed asphalt on my 1000 ft driveway. It's lasted 7 years now with no fillers or having to add more
 
We use steel slag on our driveway. I used many loads of gravel over the years then the dump truck guy suggested steel slag and it has worked well.
 
We did asphalt millings on our driveway growing up. Almost a mile long and lasted about 10 years.
 
Washed stone is never going to stay in place and Vulcan just set their off the street price for #57 at over $46 a ton so asphalt starts to make sense more and more. I have a Harley rake, a land leveler for the skid steer and a box blade for the tractor and when I'm fixing a driveway I go with the box blade. That will only fix the washouts and potholes though, it will still be muddy abc. It also matters where your abc comes from, the local Vulcan is dot cert granite with a certain amount of fines, if you go to McDowell quarry you'll get 5050 dirt and rock that turns to mud, but it is cheaper.
 
If you have any elevation change, the best option is ABC/Crusher Run, unless you have the money to pave it. Nothing else packs as well, and in 6 months all the washed stone or recycled asphalt or crushed concrete or slag will be on the sides and at the bottom.

Here's my experience with the various aggregates:
ABC/Crusher Run: Packs well, holds form, has the nasty gray grit when it gets really wet, dusty in summer when really dry, tends to have potholes, but easy to fix. Overall probably the easiest to maintain long term. Cheaper than washed stone, but not by much, but best long term value.
Washed Stone: Best looking, tends to sling to the outside in corners and bottom of hills, does require regular maintenance, but easy to maintain if you have an angle blade or even just a hand rake and some patience. Most expensive.
Asphalt millings: Packs in well, looks nice at first. Over time tends to break down into smaller pieces and no longer holds together, especially in areas where vehicles are turning/starting/stopping. Once is loses its bond, it starts to pump when wet and becomes junk. One of the cheapest options I've used.
Crushed concrete: Breaks down into powder with an end result similar to ABC, not good on hills, but does fine on flat ground. Dusty when dry, slimy when wet. At 2/3 or less the cost of ABC, its a decent option, but last time I quoted it, the difference was about 15% less, so I went with ABC.
Steel Slag: Similar to washed stone, but much higher tendency to washboard. My parents have this on their road, and it could be scraped once a week and it would still have washboards. Other than that its a good top layer, but too loose and too fine to build a base with. Will definitely require maintenance because it drifts out of the tire tracks. I believe its pretty low on the cost spectrum, but I've never quoted it.
Drywall: Can't make this shit up. Guy in Stanley must do drywall work, because he covered his driveway in busted drywall. Was dusty until it got wet, then it was just crap. He has gravel now if that tells you anything haha.


I think the best long term solution is a good 4-6" base of ABC with 1-2" of washed stone on top to pack in and dress up occasionally. That's basically how the driveway in front of my house is (it started with a 2-3" Railroad Ballast base, then 1-2" of ABC, then 2" of washed stone), and it has held up great for years until it sat with snow and ice on it for the past 2 weeks. @braxton357 and I did a setdown area for an industrial business like this a couple months ago with an 8" ABC base and 2" of 57 stone, and it is holding up amazingly well. They also run forklifts over it, so the areas where they are driving straight are like friggin concrete.
Mid-December:
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After 2 months, a couple hundred hours of forklift traffic, and 2 weeks of ice/snow:
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