Overland up the NC coast?

Lizooki

Lizooki

Samurai Frogger
Joined
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Location
Stokes Co. NC
This is something I would like to do ..... if nothing else it would keep my 4wd vehicle relevant.
Too many reasons to explain, but I just don't/can't wheel any more.

But overlanding might be kinda enjoyable.

Anyone here done it?
Suggestions?

Matt
 
Lizooki said:
This is something I would like to do ..... if nothing else it would keep my 4wd vehicle relevant.
Too many reasons to explain, but I just don't/can't wheel any more.

But overlanding might be kinda enjoyable.

Anyone here done it?
Suggestions?

Matt
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Not sure if the east coast can cater to that. It's too worn down and protected. Plus permit fees can be expensive. Overlanding IMO on this side of the Mississippi seems like a joke to me.


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Don't let em get you down Matt
Ga Traverse trail 226 miles off pavement of 390
Daniel Boone Byway 98 miles
and hit up adv riders for the southern 500 loop

I will be doing some of these in my unexpo style Ie sub $5k truck with an air mattress. I also was bought up in a time where we learned to read paper maps so I don't need I pad nav, or gps, or drones to do my trip. I won't have a youtube channel or 23K of the latest aluminum nick nack bolted to my crap how will I ever make it!!!
 
If you want to keep your 4wd relevant on the NC coast then take up surf fishing. Portsmouth Island seems to be to my knowledge one of the few islands where you have to actually use overlanding skills. (No electricity, no water, bathrooms, camp wherever you want, etc).

My dad use to take me when I was younger and we would live out of our 88 suburban for a week fishing. You also have to take a private ferry so there is an investment involved.


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StretchASU said:
Overland = a brand of shit that is all overpriced.

Back in the day all of those vehicles were considered something along the lines of a "mild build" and you just camped out of it.
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It actually is a defined style of wheeling, but I think most folks mean 'expedition' when they say 'overlanding'.

What is Overlanding? | Overland Journal
 
UTfball68 said:
It actually is a defined style of wheeling, but I think most folks mean 'expedition' when they say 'overlanding'.

What is Overlanding? | Overland Journal
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They can spin it however they want. Its all the same shit, resulting in lines of products that are overpriced because they are for "overlanding". Its sold as a brand and lifestyle. Just saying for the OP, be smart and dont fall into the overland gimmick. Its the Crossfit of the offroad world. Been around for years but someone put a new name to it and charges more.
 
StretchASU said:
They can spin it however they want. Its all the same shit, resulting in lines of products that are overpriced because they are for "overlanding". Its sold as a brand and lifestyle. Just saying for the OP, be smart and dont fall into the overland gimmick. Its the Crossfit of the offroad world. Been around for years but someone put a new name to it and charges more.
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I guess I'm missing your point, overlanding is style, just like mud, rocks, racing, sand, etc etc...all of those have brands and perceived lifestyles too (that's marketing...TGW and KOH and the inherent perceptions and associated parts). But in case you didn't open the link, this is how it's defined:

  1. Primary purpose: Exploration and adventure travel
  2. Duration: Typically a week to many years. Can be only a few days if the route is particularly remote, challenging, or infrequently traveled.
  3. Logistics: Detailed planning is required for environmental, geographic, and geopolitical contingencies.
  4. Route Finding: Navigation is easy, typically on known routes that are well documented
  5. Camping: Remote or established campgrounds
  6. International Borders: Rarely includes crossing of international borders
  7. Risk: Low risk to personnel, moderate risk to equipment on more challenging tracks.
  8. Terrain: Backcountry travel often includes challenging trails as part of the adventure, with trails like the Dusy Ershim and longer routes in Moab, Utah being an example.

^^^No where in there does it say buy overpriced crap.
 
That overland journal that touts it is $45/yr. I'd say that in and of itself is overpriced crap.

I can drive around and camp in my old 4runner a bunch for the cost of a year's subscription.
 
StretchASU said:
Its the Crossfit of the offroad world
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I can hear Robbie Moseley and numerous other old school wheelers say it "What the HELL is an overlander? Just throw a sleeping bag and cooler in the back and get the hell out there"
 
CasterTroy said:
I can hear Robbie Moseley and numerous other old school wheelers say it "What the HELL is an overlander? Just throw a sleeping bag and cooler in the back and get the hell out there"
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"Overlander" is a code word for DB.
 
There are a lot of overlanders that are total douchebags but the same can be said for every aspect of off roading to be honest. The idea of doing the Trans American Trail (TAT) is a bucket list item for me but it will have to be at a time in my life where I can actually take off of work for a couple of months and do it when my son is old enough to actually be an asset out there with me rather than a liability. I doubt my wife would enjoy it cause she is way to concerned with a hot shower on the regular, lol. I have been to the overland expo in Asheville once, and I will never attend again cause there are a lot of poser types at that event and the knowledge you gain there isnt anymore than you get from a good google search or just getting the hell out there and trying it yourself. There are some vendors out there that offer some good deals at the expo compared to their normal online or in store prices but even that doesnt make it worth attending again.
 
UTfball68 said:
I guess I'm missing your point
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Nailed it. :lol: Dont need another google search to figure that one out.

Let me break it down...there is a ton of this "overland" shit out there. Parts, content, social media, lifestyle etc. One day someone said something along the lines of "hey, if we give this a name or rebrand it all we create an entire new market for the old parts we aren't selling very well". Congrats, successful business. Kudos to that guy and the ones that followed suit. All of a sudden super expensive rooftop tents and in-vehicle refrigerators and parts of the like become relevant again.

But for those of us enthusiasts on a 4wd forum, I give the advice that I have already stated. Don't fall for it. You don't need a RTT, $400 limb risers and gucci'd out bumpers to drive down random roads and go camping in the wilderness. At the end of the day, thats what "overlanding" is.
 
StretchASU said:
Nailed it. :lol: Dont need another google search to figure that one out.

Let me break it down...there is a ton of this "overland" shit out there. Parts, content, social media, lifestyle etc. One day someone said something along the lines of "hey, if we give this a name or rebrand it all we create an entire new market for the old parts we aren't selling very well". Congrats, successful business. Kudos to that guy and the ones that followed suit. All of a sudden super expensive rooftop tents and in-vehicle refrigerators and parts of the like become relevant again.

But for those of us enthusiasts on a 4wd forum, I give the advice that I have already stated. Don't fall for it. You don't need a RTT, $400 limb risers and gucci'd out bumpers to drive down random roads and go camping in the wilderness. At the end of the day, thats what "overlanding" is.
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Fine as a gross generalization...but that's about the equivalent as saying whoever the first guy to deviate from calling 'off-roading' and said 'mudding' or 'rock crawling' instead, created a new market to hock parts in. Like saying boggers are the best for deep mud or you can only run paddles in the sand. Do you have to, no...but that's the general consensus. It's just another style of wheeling in the grand scheme of things. Chances are pretty good a buggy or stock-ish Jeep couldn't hang on a 6 month PanAm trip, just like an overland rig wouldn't do as well as the buggy in Moab.
 
UTfball68 said:
Chances are pretty good a buggy or stock-ish Jeep couldn't hang on a 6 month PanAm trip, just like an overland rig wouldn't do as well as the buggy in Moab.
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Truth. The Jeep doesn't have a Engel refrigerator or an elaborate fold out kitchen, and is thus unsuitable for travel durations longer than two hours.
 
shawn said:
Truth. The Jeep doesn't have a Engel refrigerator or an elaborate fold out kitchen, and is thus unsuitable for travel durations longer than two hours.
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You cant use an Engel. Nothing on their 12V Fridge/Freezer page says anything about overlanding.

12 Volt Fridge Freezers

See, I googled it.
 
shawn said:
Truth. The Jeep doesn't have a Engel refrigerator or an elaborate fold out kitchen, and is thus unsuitable for travel durations longer than two hours.
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StretchASU said:
You cant use an Engel. Nothing on their 12V Fridge/Freezer page says anything about overlanding.

12 Volt Fridge Freezers

See, I googled it.
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So you guys are saying you'd do the TansAm Trail or a PanAm Tour with a buggy or stock XJ and have zero belief there are specific build parts for trips like those??? If that's the case, I'll plan and fund the trip.
 
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I know nothing specific about either trail mentioned, but I feel like it should be doable in an XJ or buggy just fine. People worry too much and overprepare, to the tune of many thousands of dollars. Which is why it's a lucrative segment of the offroad market.

I drove the Dalton Highway in a VW Jetta, with nothing at all that said overlanding on it.
 
UTfball68 said:
So you guys are saying you'd do the TansAm Trail or a PanAm Tour with a buggy or stock XJ and have zero belief there are specific build parts for trips like those??? If that's the case, I'll plan and fund the trip.
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I guess you've never heard of Mark Smith....?
 
StretchASU said:
You cant use an Engel. Nothing on their 12V Fridge/Freezer page says anything about overlanding.
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They're also not bear-proof, so you can't use one in WNC.
 
grapehead said:
I know nothing specific about either trail mentioned, but I feel like it should be doable in an XJ or buggy just fine. People worry too much and overprepare, to the tune of many thousands of dollars. Which is why it's a lucrative segment of the offroad market.

I drove the Dalton Highway in a VW Jetta, with nothing at all that said overlanding on it.
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That's why I say I think a lot of folks are confused as to what the actual intent of overlanding is...the Dalton Highway is mostly gravel. I'm thinking more along the lines of anything from pavement to frame high mud to water crossings and everything in between for weeks at a time, being completely self reliant.
 
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