Real Reasonable Rigs

ManglerYJ said:
Yesterday at lunch, my step-daughter was showing pictures of the truck her boyfriend just bought. It's a 2008 crew cab GMC 2500 with the Duramax diesel, chipped and she thinks was the Allison transmission (she knew the Duramax for sure). He bought it with 200,000 miles on it and seemed pretty happy with how un-worn the seats look. She wouldn't tell us how much he spent on it, which tells me it was a LOT. I asked her what he will be pulling with it.....


She said, his 14 foot Jayco pop-up camper... perhaps a single jetski.
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Sounds about right. Diesel trucks are for pulling tail, not trailers :driver::stupid:
 
shawn said:
@Ron still thinks he can pull my trailer with his SWB Ford. I have offered - numerous times - to let him hitch it up and tow it around the block once. He has yet to put his money where his mouth is. Er.... his money where his cab corners used to be...? :flipoff2:
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Let's not twist the argument.
I said, "I could pull my 5'er toy hauler without getting into the cab corners at full lock." I also said I could pull your trailer, but MAY need to set back hitch. Factory campers all have the taper on the front that keeps it out of the cab corners, the conversion companies have a straight front that can cause problems.

If I am not mistaken (and Im not infallable) the Ford Short box is longer than the Dodge short box, and both are longer than the Dode Mega Cab beds. The you factor in proper hitch installation location and hitch manufacturer and style etc and there are tons of variables at play.

I know guys personally who have got into the cab corners, just like you do. In every case that I know they said it could have been prevented if they had planned ahead better. If I had your trailer and planned to use it I would want a long bed also because I hate the feeling of a set back hitch...and when you go to a new wheeling location you cant always plan ahead, because you dont know wat you are going to run into.

The problem with me towing your trailer, "as is", is I want air bags on my ass end first...
 
@Ron, I'd like to see this movable gooseneck hitch of yours.

Some campers made today have shorter overhangs with long extensions so that you can pull them with SWB trucks.

But there's no amount of planning ahead that will prevent you from having to go 90 degrees to the trailer. I get close to that every time I turn in or out of a driveway. You have some drafting software, you should be able to show yourself why extended trailer necks don't fix the problem.

Short box dodge beds are all 6.5ft, same as Ford. Offset from the pin to the tailgate is more or less the same, too.
 
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braxton357 said:
There is nothing reasonable about a single cab truck.
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BigBody79 said:
I hate to say it the most useful truck is a regular cab long bed. If youre using as a truck. Not a family hauler/grocery getter.
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I daily a single cab F250...actually I own 3 single cab trucks. It's done just fine as a family hauler so far, my daughter's car seat fits just fine in the passenger side, and my wife fits comfortably in the middle. Though that will change come January when my son arrives, there's no fitting two car seats with the 6 speed. Just bought her a new Suburban though, so I have her old car around when I need to haul the kids.

Croatan_Kid said:
4 door long bed? I can't turn it around unless I had about an acre.... I also couldn't get it in our back parking lot at work.
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Meh, I daily drove a CCLB Duramax through college, no big deal unless it came to parallel parking. Turning radius did not seem that any larger than my RCLB F250, which to be honest, is horrid for what it is. Only real issue I had was once in Charlotte when a parking garage lied about their 7' clearance...apparently that didn't take into consideration a vehicle
with a wheelbase that allowed it to be on two floors at once...which kicked the rear of the cab up into a storm drain that scraped across the roof and chipped the 3rd brake light even though I was about 3" under the clearance indicator when I entered.


Which brings me to a realization...why did I have a crew cab when I was young and single...and now a single cab when I'm married with children? o_O
 
jeepinmatt said:
See, even longbeds have to have the tailgate down :flipoff2:
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I never pull a trailer unless I HAVE to. You can fit a bunch of stuff in a longbed with no toolbox.
 
RHSCTJ said:
I never pull a trailer unless I HAVE to. You can fit a bunch of stuff in a longbed with no toolbox.
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Yup. That said, I have filled mine to the brim several times. Vacation trips in particular. Not hauling a trailer with me on vacation, but a bunch of coolers and tents and crap will fill up the truck bed in short order.
 
shawn said:
@Ron, I'd like to see this movable gooseneck hitch of yours.

Some campers made today have shorter overhangs with long extensions so that you can pull them with SWB trucks.

But there's no amount of planning ahead that will prevent you from having to go 90 degrees to the trailer. I get close to that every time I turn in or out of a driveway. You have some drafting software, you should be able to show yourself why extended trailer necks don't fix the problem.

Short box dodge beds are all 6.5ft, same as Ford. Offset from the pin to the tailgate is more or less the same, too.
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On phone but look up "ranch hitch"..IIRC they are only rated up to 6k of pin weight though so depending on loading that could be an issue.
 
You're talking about an adapter that converts a 5th wheel trailer into a gooseneck.

You can't go the other way around, because a 5th wheel hitch imparts loads to the trailer that a gooseneck trailer isn't designed to take.
 
no...the ranch hitch will offet a goose as well, I'm 99% sure.
(Full disclosure the only goose trailer Ive ever owned was a cattle trailer and not really applicable to the converasation.)

I may be using the wrong name, and I have a B&W turnover, as you know, so the offset is easier with that set up.
 
GCncsuHD said:
Which brings me to a realization...why did I have a crew cab when I was young and single...and now a single cab when I'm married with children? o_O
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I'm a youn... well, at least single QCLB owner. I bet no one has sat in the back seat for 3 if not 4 years.
 
powerstrokin04 said:
@Ron. Is this what your talking about. Offset gooseneck ball? http://www.turnoverball.com/products/gooseneck-hitch/4-extender-turnoverball-accessory. There kind of pricy..but there is a local pawn shop who has one for $40. I was going to get it..but i have a long bed :)


Or this. http://www.turnoverball.com/products/gooseneck-couplers/gooseneck-hitch-extension
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Yup. And even if you use both of those at the same time, you'll still hit the cab. Only now, you won't be able to put anything in the bed because the trailer will hit it too.
 
What stupid thing are we going to argue about next?
 
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