Really? (Towing Capacity of new trucks)

Would you conventional tow 11,300 pounds with a 1/2 ton 2wd pickup with a 3.5L V6?

  • Of course, I believe everything Ford says.

    Votes: 1 2.0%

  • Maybe, how much will you pay me?

    Votes: 6 11.8%

  • No way, I understand physics.

    Votes: 18 35.3%

  • Absolutely, but only downhill.

    Votes: 2 3.9%

  • Yes, if the route is flat.

    Votes: 2 3.9%

  • Is this a serious question?

    Votes: 5 9.8%

  • Definitely not, fuel is too expensive.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • You'd do it for Randolph Scott!

    Votes: 3 5.9%

  • No, but there are plenty of people who would.

    Votes: 9 17.6%

  • Does it matter? People who pull a 3000# boat twice a year will buy it anyway?

    Votes: 17 33.3%
  • Total voters
    51
  • Poll closed .
Some of these newer trucks have some great power, but if you think about it, you're still dragging all that weight with a semi-float axle. Hell, GM is still using the 10 bolts! I know they went to the AAM 8.6, but still...

Is it going to come to a point where they just quit making a "1/2" ton truck? Could you imagine some of the stupid stuff you'd see getting pulled down the highways if they ever decided to drop small diesels in these trucks like they've been thinking about?!
 
shawn said:
You know what jumped out at me?

No fawking way a GMC 3500 only weighs 6400# :lol:

Dodge still doesn't make a sheet metal bed version of the 4500/5500, do they? That would be one big reason for bumping the towing numbers on the 3500 trucks.
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Kinda what I was thinking, that's more GCWR than a ford F-450 p/u. I'm curious too see what that ram is all about, 30,000 lb trailer on some 16" load range E tires is kinda scary.
 
I think 19.5s are optional on those new Dodge longhaulers. It'd be feasible then.
 
I think its been over 10 years since anybody put 16s on a one ton.
 
I think its been over 10 years since anybody put 16s on a one ton.
 
shawn said:
And then?

I'm grossing about 26k on eight Es, and I'm not even up to the max sidewall weight yet.
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I'm not trying to argue but that's one setup out of a billion towing combos, Do you think your set up as is right now could gross almost 11,500 more lbs with out going over the limit on something or at the very least pushing the limit?

Sure hook that truck up to a short 10 ton trailer and there would be no problem But what if you were hauling something odd that put on some major tongue weight? The truck would have to be equipped to handle that or else your limiting the towing capability of the truck.

If this;

I think 19.5s are optional on those new Dodge longhaulers. It'd be feasible then.
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is true its more likely the 19.5's are a requirement for that high GCWR as well as the extra engine and trans cooling and probably a nasty set of gears for a DD.

I have no doubts a load range E tire with a precise set up could do it but once its starts to get a little dirty is when I loose my faith. But then your talking maybe an occasional thing and it would be much of a worry but in the eyes of the law there is no such thing as an occasional thing.
 
i'm wondering how long the transmission will last while doing that-it's got to be shifting it's butt off... ford makes decent half ton axles, but i'd be a little concerned about how long that would last as well
 
250krawler said:
I'm not trying to argue but that's one setup out of a billion towing combos, Do you think your set up as is right now could gross almost 11,500 more lbs with out going over the limit on something or at the very least pushing the limit?

Sure hook that truck up to a short 10 ton trailer and there would be no problem But what if you were hauling something odd that put on some major tongue weight? The truck would have to be equipped to handle that or else your limiting the towing capability of the truck.

If this;



is true its more likely the 19.5's are a requirement for that high GCWR as well as the extra engine and trans cooling and probably a nasty set of gears for a DD.

I have no doubts a load range E tire with a precise set up could do it but once its starts to get a little dirty is when I loose my faith. But then your talking maybe an occasional thing and it would be much of a worry but in the eyes of the law there is no such thing as an occasional thing.
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Right.... which is really just another version of wringing your hands and worrying needlessly that somebody out there isn't capable or competent enough to run their load, and that somebody... SOMEBODY... should intervene. Nevermind that the big diesels are all basically running MDT parts and have been for years, and that anybody grossing over 26k would need a CDL, need to stop at scales, maintain log books, and all the other various things required of people rolling down the road weighing 20 tons.

The whole thread just reminds me of those pegboard people over on the RV and diesel boards that insist that you're mentally defective and a risk to society if you tow a gooseneck with an SRW truck, or tow anything heavier than 8k# with a one ton diesel dually.
 
I don't care what anyone runs to an extent, the person running it should be the one who cares. They will be the ones found liable in a bus full of nuns situation. I'm just saying from a manufacturer standpoint they have to cover all the bases or else the ability to gross that kind of weight is pointless if you can only haul one thing in one certain way because they limited the truck to standard 1 ton equipment like 17" load E tires. If there hasn't been a substantial increase in GVWR or GRAWR the ability to haul 30k is useless unless you have a trailer fleet for every situation or haul 1 thing or basically the same thing.
 
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