RPM Act

questions from a dummy:
-Propane or NG is cool but when I pull up to the “pump” do I have options for regular, mid, premium or is it all the same grade?
-who pays for the gas stations to change over to LPG/NG pumps at their stations?
-do you really want the common idiot driver to understand how it works to pump those fuels when it’s a struggle for them to pump regular gasoline products without messing it up? (Be next to it happening followed by large Jeepinmatt approved fireball )
-what about areas that don’t have ready access to LPG/NG from the pipe and have to have it trucked in?
I could go on but there are so many questions of what if??
 
LPG is super common in Europe. I had a few LPG cars. Everyone that's into gas guzzlers usually has them converted to LPG since it's cheaper (about $5/gal vs the normal $7.5).

Really isn't that bad to work the pump and they have plenty of built in safeties that make them safer than a regular gas pump. It's impossible to "spill" LPG at a pump, vs it's super easy to dump gas everywhere. Especially when idiots overfill their tanks higher than the vent.

LPG and pane have a higher octane rating than premium. So by default you have the "best" possible option.

Gas stations would pay for their own pumps I'm assuming.
 
shawn said:
Not every manufacturer. Honda and Toyota have basically said it isn't possible.
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I feel like this is Ford and Chevy's soon-to-be failed attempt at gaining ground on the foreign car manufacturers in the US.
 
I run a shop, performance oriented, and shit is hetting wierd. Over the last few weeks, several big manufacturers of performance parts have frozen sales. In the online parts catalogs for some chain parts stores, hundreds of routine parts now state " not legal for street use". I'm not talking roots blowers, I'm talking valve cover gaskets. And Commiefornia just decided you cannot work on your own car anymore, other than minor repairs. It's illegal. For the guy asking about the effect on trail rigs, YES! This means EVERYTHING EVER SOLD AS A STREET VEHICLE. Take 2 minutes to sign the petition
 
YOUNGBLOOD13 said:
And Commiefornia just decided you cannot work on your own car anymore, other than minor repairs. It's illegal.
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sources ? I have found a few things on google but it only applies to the Sacramento county an has been that way since 2019.
 
Bebop said:
sources ? I have found a few things on google but it only applies to the Sacramento county an has been that way since 2019.
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Bebop, I was reading a trade publication, I dont have it or I would link. But here is some fun instead.

babylonbee.com

California Considering Tax On Breathing

SACRAMENTO, CA—The California legislature unveiled plans last week for a new tax on the privilege of breathing.
babylonbee.com babylonbee.com
 
So, that video made me look back at some of the info on the RPM Act.

From the reading I have done, the real issue here is the EPA Clean Air Act that was passed last yr. The RPM Act has just recently be re-introduced into congress, but the wording on it looks to try and protect "racers" from the EPA ruling. Basically it says that any vehicle being used for competition should be exempt.

Maybe I have read them wrong, but it seems like the RPM Act can only help in the fight, as the damage is done?

and BTW, McHenry and Burr are the folks sponsoring and introducing the bill to congress.
 
Realistically the problem is the Clean Air Act. It needs to repealed and rewritten by people who actually understand WTF is causing large scale air pollution. It's not ECU reprogramming and exhaust mods.
 
jeepinmatt said:
Realistically the problem is the Clean Air Act. It needs to repealed and rewritten by people who actually understand WTF is causing large scale air pollution. It's not ECU reprogramming and exhaust mods.
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Last time I read about air pollution article basically said the US had made huge strides to curb it and that China produced over 30% of green house gasses. Until China does something nothing the rest of the world does will matter.
 
Welcome to European politics.
Wait until they make yearly emission checks mandatory like over there.

ghost said:
Last time I read about air pollution article basically said the US had made huge strides to curb it and that China produced over 30% of green house gasses. Until China does something nothing the rest of the world does will matter.
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That's not in line with what they want you to think or do.
 
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Bebop said:
Welcome to European politics.
Wait until they make yearly emission checks mandatory like over there.



That's not in line with what they want you to think or do.
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There were yearly sniffer tests in NC until not long ago. Not quite CARB extreme, but more than just looking underneath.
 
Bebop said:
Welcome to European politics.
Wait until they make yearly emission checks mandatory like over there.



That's not in line with what they want you to think or do.
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Don't you have them now? They just do it via OBDII instead of a sniffer.
We have it here in MD. Anything pre-OBDII is exempt bc its such a small % of the vehicles.
 
RatLabGuy said:
Don't you have them now? They just do it via OBDII instead of a sniffer.
We have it here in MD. Anything pre-OBDII is exempt bc its such a small % of the vehicles.
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It's not everywhere in TN.
Definitely everywhere in Europe.

paradisePWoffrd said:
There were yearly sniffer tests in NC until not long ago. Not quite CARB extreme, but more than just looking underneath.
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Caver Dave said:
I believe it's actually due to the willy-nilly/onsie-twosie nature of ODBI programming and the daunting task of programming the sniffers to correctly interpret the zillions of variables between them...
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I'm not talking about OBD2 tests.

I'm talking about sniffer tests that are done under load, on a dyno, like in Europe.
 
LBarr2002 said:
Can you get dyno results at the same time?

Sir, you failed horribly, but it made 300 RWHP...
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No you cannot.
I would have loved that otherwise.

That's how the VW cars defeated emission testing. They would switch to a different tune when you put them in "dyno mode". Right before testing them.
 
Bebop said:
It's not everywhere in TN.
Definitely everywhere in Europe.





I'm not talking about OBD2 tests.

I'm talking about sniffer tests that are done under load, on a dyno, like in Europe.
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Im not talking OBD2 either. It was a tailpipe sniffer. Believe that it was at idle though, not under load. They have been gone for some time, and I want to say that only pre-OBD2 vehicles were checked, and only in certain counties.
 
paradisePWoffrd said:
Im not talking OBD2 either. It was a tailpipe sniffer. Believe that it was at idle though, not under load. They have been gone for some time, and I want to say that only pre-OBD2 vehicles were checked, and only in certain counties.
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That's the same here. Was a sniffer test for any pre-96 car. But they did do a range of RPMs.
Eliminated altogether a few years ago. The claim was the cost of maintaining the equipment exceeded it's effectiveness.
 
In Nj we had the sniffer and a dyno test but have gone to OBD2 only. The logic was that modern cars are constantly monitoring there own emissions and would turn on the CEL if there was an issue. Light on = fail All monitors not set = fail
 
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