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Will Carter said:
Aint closed yet. Haha.

Turns out my chart trader thing for Fidelity is finicky (I don't know how to use it) and my stop loss didn't get put in after I commented earlier today about the reversal.... so... that's fun... whatever, small position, I can add some more this week.
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Interesting. I had an issue with Fidelity and a stop loss as well. Was gambling on Novavax and it was supposed to sell at some number and didn't, then I went from like 90% value to 20% value or something stupid.
 
I might be a buyer of TSLA if it goes below $175 or $150. The recent pop that went over $400 started when Trump won the election. It was $142 on April 22nd 2024.

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Today bulls (me) want a small bull bar closing at its high. Don't want a big bar taking out yesterdays drop all at once. That'd be a hard buy.

Edit: On SPY.
 
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Will Carter said:
Just as a discussion ... If your buy gets filled at $175 where will you sell?
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I'm just loosely entertaining the idea right now. I'm leaning more towards being a buyer around $150 maybe. I think I would maybe sell around $225. Do you have any thoughts on the stock? I've never owned it before.
 
Will Carter said:
What's your time frame? In my world you pick one and keep it. Are you going to push buttons every day or just every friday? Or monthly?
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Typically I buy and hold stocks for at least a few years. I'm not feeling that with TSLA. I'm feeling it more as a flip like I recently did with BUD. Buy and maybe hold for 2 months to a year. I think if it drops to around $150 it will likely go back up to around $225 in less than a year.
 
The news of a possible Ukraine Ceasefire pulled the market up in the afternoon. The S&P500 touched 10% down after lunch.
 
drkelly said:
Typically I buy and hold stocks for at least a few years. I'm not feeling that with TSLA. I'm feeling it more as a flip like I recently did with BUD. Buy and maybe hold for 2 months to a year. I think if it drops to around $150 it will likely go back up to around $225 in less than a year.
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What if it goes to $225 in three days? What if it drops to $125 and ranges there for months? When are you going to call it quits for a loss?

If your position size is so small that none of that really matters then you’re not really trying to make money you’re just trying to have something to talk about.

If you are position sized accordingly so that one trade could have at least a 0.5-3% affect on your net worth then you need to have answers to all of those questions (and many more) before you buy.

drkelly said:
The news of a possible Ukraine Ceasefire pulled the market up in the afternoon. The S&P500 touched 10% down after lunch.
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I can’t stress enough how this is not a thing (for the large etf’s). You’re talking about the left side of the chart. It’s already happened. My questions above are preparing for the right side of the chart that has yet to print. Daily news might be a catalyst for buyers and sellers to input some orders but they were already set to go off in those zones before any reporter said anything.
 
We are in the middle of the biggest pump and dump scheme in history. The white house insiders know before we do when tariffs and Trump nonsense talk are going to happen and are making money hand over fist buying and selling accordingly. I bet don Jr and Eric's phone lines have been HOT the past few weeks
 
Will Carter said:
What if it goes to $225 in three days? What if it drops to $125 and ranges there for months? When are you going to call it quits for a loss?

If your position size is so small that none of that really matters then you’re not really trying to make money you’re just trying to have something to talk about.

If you are position sized accordingly so that one trade could have at least a 0.5-3% affect on your net worth then you need to have answers to all of those questions (and many more) before you buy.
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No way it goes up 50% in 3 days. If it did, then I would sell. I don't get emotionally attached to stock trades. I previously said I would expect it to take 2 months to 1 year, so if it dropped to $125, I wouldn't panic, I would hold and wait. For a potential 50% gain I would be willing to hold it a couple of years. The amount of profit (50%) I am thinking about for TSLA would less than the minimum 0.5% of our net worth you mentioned. As I have previously mentioned in this thread, the bulk of the money in our E-trade accounts is in VOO and QQQ.

This is an internet board. Talking about various subjects is what we do here. I'm trying to make money, but I'm not willing to risk too much. Ownership of individual stocks only makes up about 10-15% of our net worth.


Will Carter said:
I can’t stress enough how this is not a thing (for the large etf’s). You’re talking about the left side of the chart. It’s already happened. My questions above are preparing for the right side of the chart that has yet to print. Daily news might be a catalyst for buyers and sellers to input some orders but they were already set to go off in those zones before any reporter said anything.
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I noticed the market shot up in the afternoon, and wondered why when it had been trending down all day. A quick look told me it was most likely because of the Ukraine ceasefire news.
 
DSM Turbos said:
I think Tesla is going to hurt for a little bit. Lots of competition now and many buyers are on the far left and may not buy from them for a while.
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Agree. I think sales could slump for a while. I think their next earnings report is late April.
 
I guess my point is this was a thread started about advice on when and what to invest in the stock market and anytime someone asks for or seeks out advice on this subject they're met with loud voices (media and salesman and individuals) telling them about the cherry they picked instead of actual advice. I'm just picking on you because you're the only one talking and the mutual fund salesman seems to have gone away.

drkelly said:
...the bulk of the money in our E-trade accounts is in VOO and QQQ.
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Let's talk about these investments instead of random Tesla. What have been your recent moves and what's your plan here? Did you sell it all when you called the top back in February?

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I noticed the market shot up in the afternoon, and wondered why when it had been trending down all day. A quick look told me it was most likely because of the Ukraine ceasefire news.
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I challenge you to start thinking about the market in a different way. Was it this news that caused this bounce or was it the fact that any firm or fund (the real market makers) that shorted some of this drop in the past few weeks all had converging profit targets on a 1:2 risk/reward ratio all at about the same point on the chart?

Weekly chart sellers.
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Daily chart sellers

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you've got an idiot prez, a wack job citizen, hedge fund owners, vanguard, blackrock, and supercomputers executing millions of trades a second from all over the world all 'manipulating' the market.....no need to think about it in a 'different' way

'you' are not in control, and you will not guess the next moves reliably and consistently

gamble all you want, and no one cares how much money you have tied up in the gambling market
 
benXJ said:
you've got an idiot prez, a wack job citizen, hedge fund owners, vanguard, blackrock, and supercomputers executing millions of trades a second from all over the world all 'manipulating' the market.....no need to think about it in a 'different' way

'you' are not in control, and you will not guess the next moves reliably and consistently

gamble all you want, and no one cares how much money you have tied up in the gambling market
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And this is the other side of the coin when people ask for advice. Those that say it can't be done.


But here I am, on a computer in a coffee shop, watching a chart blip up and down with enough free time to respond to this thread... and making a dollar or two while doing it...
 
Will Carter said:
And this is the other side of the coin when people ask for advice. Those that say it can't be done.


But here I am, on a computer in a coffee shop, watching a chart blip up and down with enough free time to respond to this thread... and making a dollar or two while doing it...
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same bro. watching the dips. hoping they don't dip further after my buy!
 
Will Carter said:
I guess my point is this was a thread started about advice on when and what to invest in the stock market and anytime someone asks for or seeks out advice on this subject they're met with loud voices (media and salesman and individuals) telling them about the cherry they picked instead of actual advice. I'm just picking on you because you're the only one talking and the mutual fund salesman seems to have gone away.


Let's talk about these investments instead of random Tesla. What have been your recent moves and what's your plan here? Did you sell it all when you called the top back in February?


I challenge you to start thinking about the market in a different way. Was it this news that caused this bounce or was it the fact that any firm or fund (the real market makers) that shorted some of this drop in the past few weeks all had converging profit targets on a 1:2 risk/reward ratio all at about the same point on the chart?
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We didn't sell any VOO or QQQ. We sold our Costco, Jets, and some CCL stock.
 
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