Take pity on my stupidity and loan me your transmission jack...

Falko

Falko

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Last week while I was out of town traveling for work I lent my Cummin(g)s to a guy I know so he'd have something to take his daughter to daycare. This was against my better judgement since, as long as I've known him at least, I have never seen him drive a manual transmission vehicle of any kind. He however claimed he was capable.

He dropped it off back at my house on Saturday and surprise! it has approximately 0% clutch left. like, comically worn out; you can put it in any gear and dump the pedal and nothing happens. If you put it in 4-Low, first or reverse and rev it up it will crawl forward and back. I have no clue how he even got it back to my house.

Anyway... does anyone have a transmission jack capable of handling an NV5600 and 271D that they want to loan or rent out? I don't want to buy one because I have no room to store it, and Sunbelt's rental fee is steep.

Also - if anyone has a recommendation on a clutch setup I'll take that too.
 
So if we can prove we can drive manual we can borrow your diesel? I call dibs! :bounce:

But I did a transmission swap when I broke my bellhousing using this.

Rental Works is located in downtown Greensboro. I don't know what is steep but I think I got the jack for 24 hours for like $45. Made my life so much easier. Better than buying one for $200+
 
anvilrubi said:
Used a regular jack and a block of wood more than once
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I think I've done more clutches than I've owned vehicles and never used a trans jack. That being said, when my diesel needs I'm paying someone to do it.
 
I have one of the harbor freight one's that fit the top of a floor jack. Your welcome to borrow it. I have done a getrag and 205 in my old first gen dodge by myself with just a floor jack. I would not recommend it.
 
Soooo.... why are you asking us, instead of telling him to arrange the jack... and help you change it? :D

On topic - last time I did one (yes, much smaller, on a Toy) I used ratchet straps across the frame and rigged up a sort of sling, and used that to lower and raise it. Best part is I never really had to completely lower it, just pushed it back and out of the way.

To help guide it I took the top foot off of my 3 ton hydraulic jack and made up a wider block with a pin in it to set in the hole that the foot goes in.
 
NickMaul said:
So if we can prove we can drive manual we can borrow your diesel? I call dibs! :bounce:

But I did a transmission swap when I broke my bellhousing using this.

Rental Works is located in downtown Greensboro. I don't know what is steep but I think I got the jack for 24 hours for like $45. Made my life so much easier. Better than buying one for $200+
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That's about the same rate that Sunbelt was asking. Not bad for a day, but I was hoping to pull everything apart and assess before ordering parts so I'd need a few days, then my jewy kicks in where I'd be paying half the cost for one use when I know I'm going to need it again next winter.
anvilrubi said:
Used a regular jack and a block of wood more than once
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I've done an AW4, a BA10, and G238 like that and almost died at least once per job. With these heavy parts I want the correct tools or it's going to a shop.
justjeepin86 said:
I have one of the harbor freight one's that fit the top of a floor jack. Your welcome to borrow it. I have done a getrag and 205 in my old first gen dodge by myself with just a floor jack. I would not recommend it.
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I may take you up, I'll see where I get with this plan. It'd be nice to have casters for this job
RatLabGuy said:
Soooo.... why are you asking us, instead of telling him to arrange the jack... and help you change it? :D

On topic - last time I did one (yes, much smaller, on a Toy) I used ratchet straps across the frame and rigged up a sort of sling, and used that to lower and raise it. Best part is I never really had to completely lower it, just pushed it back and out of the way.

To help guide it I took the top foot off of my 3 ton hydraulic jack and made up a wider block with a pin in it to set in the hole that the foot goes in.
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When everything somebody touches turns to shit, you don't ask them to touch more of it.

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I have one. I have used it a couple times to pull/install the g56 out of my dodge. You're welcome to borrow it. I can't say enough good things about southbend clutch. Top notch product with even better customer service.
 
I've rented from sunbelt before. If you get it on a Friday, it is not due back until Monday morning and you only pay for 1 day.
 
I guess I should have said that I didn't have the trans adapter when I did the cummins trans. I have put in a NV4500 and 231 with it. It's a little aggravating, but it is helpful to have a way to strap it to the jack.
 
I've got one but I'm on the other side of the state. It's a monster, done clutches/transmissions in a international with a dt466 before with it..
 
I got one of these about 10 years ago. 2000 lb. Low-Profile Transmission Jack

Probably done 20 clutches or trans swaps with it, and loaned it out as many times. With the 20%, it's only about 5 rentals. Well worth it.

You're welcome to it, but it is loaned out the next week or so, and I'm a ways off.
 
I just done the clutch in my old dodge a week ago. The nv4500 and 241dhd are a heavy combo. I went with a valair 13" single disc and also went with the valair hydraulic setup. So far i am very happy with it. I have heard very good things about southbend as well but no first hand experience. As far as the jack goes i wouldn't attempt it without a trans jack, a regular floor jack and a block of wood is not a good idea considering the trans and t case are somewhere in the 500 lb range and is very awkward to balance. Btw the clutch and flywheel are pretty heavy too, shipping weight on mine was 120 lb. I didn't event drop the trans and t case completely, i centered the jack under the trans and put a ratchet strap around it so the weight of the t case wouldn't make it try to fall off then slid it back far enough to get the clutch out and jacked it up tight against the truck so it wouldn't move around. It wasn't too hard of a job, had mine done in about 5hrs
 
I always had great luck with south bend also behind my old powerstroke.

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Idk your year model, go, torque, or anything g like that but I just had this put in my truck in February I think it was. My truck is stock w nv5600. Southbend
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@3DCrawler installed it one day before lunch and did a great job. It has been great so far. And I purchased it through Brandon at Rides of conover
 
I bought this jack about two years ago from Harbor Freight when I replaced the clutch in my Dodge. You are welcome to borrow it.

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I used a stock LUK clutch. No problems.

I did it just like 89xjnc said.
 
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I know Shawn has had good use out of the LUK clutches as well as a few other on here. I'm running in South Bend in my 7.3 that I like. Also I'm not sure where your located but when I had my clutch done, labor was only 400 bucks. Well worth not having to fuck with a big ass trans.

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Transman on this board recommended the LUK.

I found a place in Kernersville that wanted $450 for labor only.
 
I paid $450 and provided parts for someone to swap the clutch/flywheel etc.. in my '11 CTD. I wouldn't do it that cheap at my shop.
 
I dont know the weights involved, but advance sells a cradle that can bolt to a standard 1 or 2 ton jack for like $50 bucks. Or at least, they did a couple years ago.
 
89xjnc said:
I have heard very good things about southbend as well but no first hand experience.
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About 3 years and 15k miles after I put my dual disk clutch in I had to have the g56 repaired. While I had it out I decided I might as well replace the throw out and pilot bearings. I called Southbend and got Peter (the owner if I'm not mistaken) he gave me the parts at cost.

On top of that he asked me why I was pulling the trans. Told him it had come apart etc... He asked how I liked it. I told him I had no complaints other than explaining to every "gearhead" that happen to walk by that my throw out bearing wasn't bad because of the chatter from the clutch. His response was " I've redesigned the clutches since you bought yours. I'm going to send you the new version with the other parts. " I got a brand new dual disk clutch free of charge. He didn't even asked for proof of purchase. That's was a $1400 clutch back then. Not sure how much one is now.
 
I've been waffling hard and frequently about doing it myself this week. Honestly at $400-$450, I'm all for writing a check, but i haven't called anyone to get any actual 2017 quotes, and the truck is completely immobile so add the cost of a tow on that, and add the probability that the flywheel is some type of fubar'd which if it can't be resurfaced then I'll need to overpay for a replacement in short order. If I do it myself, the deadline I have is Thursday before Memorial day, so no rush there. I would be accepting of all these risks if I hadn't planned to spend some money to get whatever is causing the high crankcase pressure repaired, which I'm sure will hurt me wallet's feelings as well.

Regardless, Yuuuge shout out to the NC4x4 community for so many people willing to help me out. I'm going to make a few phone calls in the morning and make a decision.

As for the brand of clutch, it will probably never make a difference to me. The truck isn't turned up at all, nor will it be while I have it. The addition of a Southbend of any type would give me +5 brodozer skill and probably help resale. What I certainly don't want is too much clutch. The worst build mistake I ever made was to mate a 350HP LS1 to a T56 with a 550HP clutch; thing drives like shit in traffic.
 
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