Talk me out of a golden doodle?

shawn said:
They're a fad bordering on a scam. Actual breeds were established over dozens of generations of selective breeding for specific characteristics. You can't take unremarkable examples from two breeds and get puppies who exhibit the best characteristics of the best examples of those breeds. It's bullshit.
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Speaking from experience? Have you been genetically tested and hip certified?
 
McCracken said:
Probably not but I'd almost bet the farm that your results came back as a certified douche.
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I don't like being called a bullshitter and a.scammer or a douche
A dog that's had a thourough exam by a vet and passed is a healthy dog period. Doodle or heinz 57 I'd pick a dog that hasn't had it's traits bred to death in a limited gene pool.
 
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I'm pretty biased, but it's tough to beat a lab. My old guy has been with me since college and tolerates my boys admirably. They worry him to death, especially the youngest, and when he's had enough he just gets up and lumbers across the yard out of their reach. He is getting some years on him and it will be some sad singing I and slow walking around here when he goes.
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Is that the one that chase all the trucks in the yard at the mill ? Dunno how many times I thought I was gonna run him over.
 
Blkvoodoo said:
Is that the one that chase all the trucks in the yard at the mill ? Dunno how many times I thought I was gonna run him over.
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Ha yep. He retired about 2 yrs ago. He got too slow to get out of the way. He stays at home now and lost 10lbs. I didn't realize how many peoples leftover lunch he was eating šŸ¤£
 
Only knock I see on them is youā€™re paying a premium for a glorified/boutique mutt...and the corresponding questions of breeding standards. Otherwise, my SIL and best friend both have one. Completely different dogs. The SILā€™s, a great dog, great around kids, nice tight curls. My buddyā€™s is an extremely anxious dog, blown out both knees twice, and I guess is a ā€˜first Genā€™ dog that has more wavy fur than anything.
 
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They shed the same as any other mammal. The problem is the ones with curly hair have to go to the groomer's all the time or they end up with dreadlocks. All the loose hair ends up on the groomer's floor. That's true of any dog that goes to the groomer on the reg.
 
Regarding the OP question to talk him out of it, my only suggestion would be to wait more than a week to replace a family pet. For the kids, if this is their first time experiencing loss, it's a valuable thing to mourn. I think it's also good for the kids to have a role in training the new pup and some responsibility in caring for it.

As far as breeds, working and sporting dogs can make good pets but a good breeder or rescue will tell you that temperament is key to getting the right dog for your situation.

But you do you.
 
trailhugger said:
Regarding the OP question to talk him out of it, my only suggestion would be to wait more than a week to replace a family pet. For the kids, if this is their first time experiencing loss, it's a valuable thing to mourn. I think it's also good for the kids to have a role in training the new pup and some responsibility in caring for
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trailhugger said:
But you do you.
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This, thanks.
 
If you go to a legitimate breeder there is a lot of science behind how they get the dogs to have a low shed and low dander coat . We chose a doodle because my son and I are both allergic to dogs. Our mini golden doodle is an F2B meaning she is part golden doodle and part miniature poodle and neither of us have had any allergy issues with her. She does shed little poof balls here or there and we do have to brush her often , but she works well with our allergy situation.

As to being a mutt , yes she is but a specially bred mutt that works for us and at some point the AKC will recognize the breed as they have with other fringe breeds over the years. There have been over 40 new breeds recognized by the AKC just in the last 21 years. And truth be told their all mutts unless you want a wolf.

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lota of great feedback, throwing golden retrievers and boykins in the mix going to wait a couple weeks to make a decision
 
Just to clarify, my dog is technically a mutt as well. Mom is a full blooded lab, dad is a full blooded boxer. They were not supposed to breed, but they did. There are folks that actually breed them though and it seems they are pretty popular. Was Neighbors down the road dog, and they needed to get rid of them. Caught me at a weak moment, too many beers.. lol but as I said, great dog!
Here is both of them tonight.

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This is my take. a sporting breed dog of any kind, lab, Boykin, springers, Brittanys french or americans, setters, any of the German breeds are ALL going to be great family dogs that are easy to train and want to be around their people and are generally really friendly to other people and animals. neither of mine know what a stranger is. one hunts the other doesn't.

I've had friends with other working breeds (herding dogs) they arent for me, they dont seem to have an off switch.



Like others have said there are good breeders and bad breeders. doing your research is important. with the gun dogs there are alot of people breeding them to get a look, those dogs are usually the ones that end up having temperament and health issues.
 

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Last week I dropped the deposit on a brindle Bull Mastiff for our daughter (she's turning 5).

I considered a golden doodle, but I have a friend who has one - and the grooming turns me off. No way I'm getting a dog that requires more grooming from me than a bath and nail trimming.

Yeah, we're insane. We have a 180lb English Mastiff that is one of the best dogs ever, minus the drooling, and a 85lb black lab with Cushings who is about to cross the rainbow bridge. So why not add another monster dog?

But... look at those eyes! And beside, what five year old princess doesn't need a fierce-some guard beast?
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hunterdan said:
Speaking from experience? Have you been genetically tested and hip certified?
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So just a word about "hip certified"...

I have a 13, about to turn 14 year old lab here that is living proof of the issue here.

Years ago I used to field trial Labs. We also bred them and "out trained"...honestly I still miss it it felt like meaningful work - but I digress.

I had 2 blue ribbon dogs - Each "Excellent" Hip certified. Also known as "Diamond Certified"...genetically it is supposedly impossible for them to throw a severe dysplastic. I knew these dogs back 8 generations. Wonderful workers, disposition, everything.

"Swamper" (named by my son because he was big black and loud like daddy's tires) was born dysplastic - or at least diagnosed at 3 months.
We elected to have surgery and pay for hip reconstruction...and have pain managed him for his entire life. Meaning he gets limited exercise or he hurts for a week or more. (whole other side bar - what his life has turned into breaks my heart but I cant put him down hes too happy) ...

So just know that all the certs in the world are just best guesses.


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hunterdan said:
I don't like being called a bullshitter and a.scammer or a douche
A dog that's had a thourough exam by a vet and passed is a healthy dog period. Doodle or heinz 57 I'd pick a dog that hasn't had it's traits bred to death in a limited gene pool.
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The only thing Id take exception to is this - some goldendoodle can be bred to be "hypoallergenic"..but not all. But anyone can breed a golden to a poodle and call it a golden doodle and claim it to be hypoallergenic. When in actuality it takes a special combo and even then about 20%.

There is even a couple in Rock Hill breeding poodle and yellow labs and caling them golden doodles...Ive met them and had them tell me a golden retreiver and a yellow lab are the same dog...these folks are getting $5k per dog. This is the type of thing you have to guard against. Without an AKC brand standard you have no protection. Whether the breeder is dishonest or ignorant..
 
My family loves our doodle, he gets along great with our miniature schnauzer, but not our jack russell. He doesn't shed normal dog hair however he does leave what we call tumble weeds like over grown dust bunnies.
 

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