Tellico Spring Fling

Jeremy1977

Jeremy1977

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I am planning on going up to Tellico for the Spring Fling . A couple of my buddies will go up and wheel on friday and the rest follows. I just wanted to see who was interested . Here are the details .

Spring into action Rescue Tellico Fundraiser

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Well here are the details I have worked out. The official dates will be April. 4th (Sat) and April 5th. This is a fundraiser based at the campground. Sat morning will be Trail Clean Up until noon sponsored by SFWDA(No Daily Use Fee). Meet back out the campground for a Rock Challenge, Dinner, Raffle, Bon Fire and Band(Weather Permitting). Sunday morning Slow Crawl Tug-O-War(Battle of the Beasts). Remember folks Proceeds go to SFWDA. Admission is $50 per rig, $20 per adult guest(Children under 13yoa are free-you will just be responsible for meal purchase in needed). The admission includes Camping for Fri-Sat nights, Dinner and all entertainment at our campground. Cabins will be normal pricing, however the owners want to Donate 25% of rental fees to the cause.

This would also be a great opportunity for folks to bring out stuff for a Swap Meet. I watched a guy empty a UHual Truck out last year in the Campground at Dixie Run...Everyone is looking for parts and accessories.

What we need from you is Donations for Raffle Prizes(Big or Small).
Volunteer Clubs to oversee Events.
A club to serve breakfast for Sat Morning.
Most importantly, your attendance!
Vendors Welcome

Lets start the season off right!

Please call me asap so we don't get into any last minute shockers. 828-837-9077
crawfords_campground@yahoo.com
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Crawford's Campground and Cabin Rentals
www.crawfordsattellico.com 828-837-9077
 
I hope to have my junk ready to go to Tellico this year. Hopefully have my pistons for my stroker within the next month.
 
5keepers said:
The sucky thing is that this is the 2nd year that it's conflicted with the April's Fool Day run in Harlan.
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Yeah, can't believe they didn't check the date before posting. It's like they just come up with a date and go for it without even trying to check and see if there are any other big events going on.
 
scoutdawg said:
I like both places but with whats going on with Tellico I think it needs a little more help than Harlan right now
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Maybe so, but the reasoning of a lot of folks (myself included) is that the people of Harlan want us more than the people of Murphy. The Murphanites should be screaming in our defense but they're still doing nothing to help the cause.
 
GubNi said:
Yeah, can't believe they didn't check the date before posting. It's like they just come up with a date and go for it without even trying to check and see if there are any other big events going on.
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STFU. Why is it so hard to believe that they're having the event as soon as the place opens on the first weekend? Are you serious? Harlan is open all the time.

scoutdawg said:
I like both places but with whats going on with Tellico I think it needs a little more help than Harlan right now
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You're right and I hope others realize that too.

5keepers said:
Maybe so, but the reasoning of a lot of folks (myself included) is that the people of Harlan want us more than the people of Murphy. The Murphanites should be screaming in our defense but they're still doing nothing to help the cause.
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This is the most childish thing I've read. Waah, they don't want me so I'll go somewhere else. Waaah :shaking: BS, they do want all of us there. What are they supposed to do? Grab their pitchforks and torches and raid the Ranger Station? They do not solely base their lives around us. If you ask the hotels and campgrounds you'll see that they do but I think McDonald's and Rib Country will survive whether we're there or not. Be realistic.

I hate to break the news to you but if what TU wants passes I will guarentee that Harlan and Mtn. City will be next. Then where will you go. You need to stand up for what you believe in and try not to depend on others to fight for you.
 
Let's try to keep a positive attitude. If you are one of the planners and I offended you - sorry.

I was just trying to say if they held it the second or better yet third weekend after they were open I think attendence would double. I attended last year and tried to get many people to go, but they wanted to go to the big event in harlan. Not because it was harlan, but because it was the big event and they would meet people they know there.
 
orangecherokee said:
STFU. Why is it so hard to believe that they're having the event as soon as the place opens on the first weekend? Are you serious? Harlan is open all the time.
You're right and I hope others realize that too.
This is the most childish thing I've read. Waah, they don't want me so I'll go somewhere else. Waaah :shaking: BS, they do want all of us there. What are they supposed to do? Grab their pitchforks and torches and raid the Ranger Station? They do not solely base their lives around us. If you ask the hotels and campgrounds you'll see that they do but I think McDonald's and Rib Country will survive whether we're there or not. Be realistic.
I hate to break the news to you but if what TU wants passes I will guarentee that Harlan and Mtn. City will be next. Then where will you go. You need to stand up for what you believe in and try not to depend on others to fight for you.
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WOW. Did I hit a nerve? I wasn't trying to start anything. I was just stating the obvious. I depend on nobody to fight for me. Since the town/county leadership up there doesn't seem to give a damn about us wheelers, I understand the majority that follows them. I have personally contacted almost everyone in an elected office that will listen. I love Tellico. It's probably my favorite place in the world to wheel. You want to do something besides type about it?
http://www.city-data.com/city/Murphy-North-Carolina.html
http://www.cherokeecounty-nc.gov/departments/commissioners/index.html
http://www.townofmurphync.com/towncouncil.php
http://www.townofmurphync.com/mayorsdesk.php
http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/gascripts/members/viewMember.pl?sChamber=H&nUserID=267
http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/gascripts/members/viewMember.pl?sChamber=S&nUserID=135
Murphy's website is crap. All of the council members are antiques and the mayor isn't a lot younger. A personal visit looks like the best contact method. The "points of interest" section is a joke. No tourism mention at all. We need to fix that. The first link shows just how poor that area is in detail. They need tourism dollars. That is a big area we should emphasize.
 
I'll admit a nerve was hit. Danny came up with the event and he has no affiliation besides the fact he runs a campground. He planned it, he got the event together and I think we should give him credit for taking on an event by himself (at least until he can get some volunteers).

Also, with comments like I'm gonna go somewhere else because.... does nothing positive for Danny or anyone else that reads about the event. It also could potentially turn away support.

If I were holding the Toyota event I think I'd change my date but I have no controlling interest in either so that won't happen.
 
orangecherokee said:
I'll admit a nerve was hit. Danny came up with the event and he has no affiliation besides the fact he runs a campground. He planned it, he got the event together and I think we should give him credit for taking on an event by himself (at least until he can get some volunteers).
Also, with comments like I'm gonna go somewhere else because.... does nothing positive for Danny or anyone else that reads about the event. It also could potentially turn away support.
If I were holding the Toyota event I think I'd change my date but I have no controlling interest in either so that won't happen.
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I don't blame Danny one bit. To me, Crawfords is as much fun as the wheeling itself. As far as campgrounds go Crawfords is the Ritz-Carlton.
 
I applaud Danny's effort, but.......

I agree that as the Harlan date has been used before it's "on the schedule" and the Tellico event should have considered that fact when scheduling their event. Makes no difference that Harlan is "open all the time", any promotor knows that scheduling your event is of utmost importance. Like Gubni said, conflicting dates will hurt both events, I think Danny's will suffer most.

"They do not solely base their lives around us." Exactly and what we're comparing here is not Murphy and Harlan but Evarts and the Hanging Dog/Crawfords community. No doubt Danny as well as Tellico Cabin Rentals and many other small business owners that rely on 4x4 traffic are hurting because of the closures.

$ is not the issue with Rescue Tellico right now. SFWDA has money they still have not needed to spend from other fund rasiers. Not saying they won't need it at some point, just not at this point.

Like it or not, people are going to be more likely to go where they "feel" wanted and appreciated. I know Danny wants and appreciates us, I'm not sure the majority of the Murphy businesses feel that we are worth the fight.

I don't have to "choose" one or the other. If I did, I feel like the Tellico situation is stagnant until the FS releases their site plan and that more money raised right now is not an issue. Harlan has used the date before and has dibs, IMO (granted anyone can hold an event any date they want to, see above). I would be more swayed by an appeal to help out the small business owners in the Hanging Dog community than by an attempt by Danny to try and keep his nose above water couched as another rescue Tellico event, no offense intended toward Danny and the Tellico event organizers.

Just my .02
 
This post was written as a heads up of an event that some of us are going to, not to be used as a right or wrong to go this place or that. It is up to the individual as to where they go. I myself as well a some others on here will be going to Tellico. If you want to go then go, show support and have fun. If not then have a helluva time at Harlan. Like I said before I really enjoy both places and Harlan to me is way more 4 wheeler friendly, but Tellico is the old standard that has been there for a while and it's almost like a sacred ground in 4 wheeling.Hopefully they have some open trails that weren't open when I was there last. I just want to keep enjoying this place as long as I can cause it may not be there to enjoy too much longer. Anyone who is going to Tellico is welcome to holler at me, Jeremy, Bigdaddyjk, or bulldog cause we will be together, so give us a shout.
And for goodness sakes lets get some good wheeling pics up on here from these trips. :)
 
JC said:
$ is not the issue with Rescue Tellico right now. SFWDA has money they still have not needed to spend from other fund rasiers. Not saying they won't need it at some point, just not at this point.
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Where did you get this information from?

JC said:
Like it or not, people are going to be more likely to go where they "feel" wanted and appreciated. I know Danny wants and appreciates us, I'm not sure the majority of the Murphy businesses feel that we are worth the fight.
I don't have to "choose" one or the other. If I did, I feel like the Tellico situation is stagnant until the FS releases their site plan and that more money raised right now is not an issue. Harlan has used the date before and has dibs, IMO (granted anyone can hold an event any date they want to, see above). I would be more swayed by an appeal to help out the small business owners in the Hanging Dog community than by an attempt by Danny to try and keep his nose above water couched as another rescue Tellico event, no offense intended toward Danny and the Tellico event organizers.
Just my .02
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I have to disagree. I do not feel the situation at Tellico is stagnant in the least. I consider it the front line and I'm sure there are still people out there that do not know the entire situation and are not informed. Plus, just because they haven't released a plan we shouldn't show our support because it seems stagnant? Are we only supposed to show up when we think we might lose something? That's part of the problem IMO.

Also, it may seem like Danny is the only one but I don't agree with that either. I organized the online rally and have spoken out to try and get everyone to write in but since I was one of few (and yes there were others and I thank them very much) to speak out I was only looking out for my interests? hardly. I think Danny has a link to the 4x4 community and uses that as a platform to communicate and show the area's support.

To say it's open year round... well, it is. Dibs or not I don't see why people can't understand this is beyond an event. People will go to Harlan the next weekend and the next. I don't see how working with an area that has an effect on the entire community is a bad thing.
 
No movement = stagnant. I am refering to the FS and their foot dragging regarding everything they do. Their EA/Site Plan was to be out end of 2008. They defered it for our benefit, so we wouldn't have to read all that paperwork over the holidays. My bet is that move is part of their overall plan.

No one said we shouldn't show our support. What 5keepers, Gubni and I contend is that better scheduling would produce better results.

No where was it said that working with an area that has an effect on the entire community is a bad thing! We all know better!

I appreciate your passion but your cursing (I think that was what STFU was :)) is misplaced! No one was bashing Spring Fling! NO one on this board wants anything bad for Tellico. Even though Harlan is a great place to wheel, Tellico is the Grand Daddy of southern 4x4 venues and always will be! I have invested a lot of money and time to help insure that all those 4x4'ers that come behind me will have a chance to ride there.

Don't be so quick to lash out at others! You aren't the only one who loves Tellico :)
 
Here's the way I see it JC. I've been bird dogging this thing from the beginning and maybe you've kept up with it and maybe you haven't it. You like many others may have just caught the tip of the iceberg on this entire subject.

Since the beginning there's been emails to clubs, letters, petitions, rallies, fund raisers and more. Then after all the hard work that's been put in by many volunteers we still have the people putting a negative spin on what's going on there. I've heard I don't know how many times about the trails are no good anymore and that a stocker with 33s can do it. I still don't believe that but whatever.

Then people come on and complain about the date and the time and the weather and everything else. I'm not saying it all has to be sunshine and rainbows but many people read these posts and form their opinions that way. So having a bunch of complainers saying that Murphy doesn't like us more than Harlan and so on is undermining the effort and if you can't see that you're not paying enough attention.

That's my nerve that gets hit, that's why my responses are the way that they are and that's why I continue to post about this. It's hard enough trying to pull support for this effort without more reasons (within our own community) not to. Could it have been another date? maybe. Could Murphy throw a big parade to make us all feel "Harlan" special? maybe. I'm not going to give up either way.
 
Nick, I applaud your efforts in helping to organize this event. Big kudo's to Danny as well. The biggest complaint that I see is about the date. a lot of folks would like to go to both. Myself included. But as pointed out, The April fools run is an annual event, much like The Dixie Run. In this day and time people have to plan ahead for events like this so they mark it on their calender. A simple solution would be to delay Danny's event for a couple of weeks, or even a month.

As far as SFWDA not having an issue with funds right now, well, that's fact. Contact the SFWDA president and offer him a large sum for the Rescue Tellico fund, and he will tell you to hold onto it, and not to send it. Not saying that it will never be used, but, they do not want it right now. The why is simple due to the fact as JC described the situation as stagnant. What's being done is paid for so no place to spend the funds, as of right now. If the fight continues then yes in the future there will be a need.
I was one of the ones who posted saying that the trails have been maintained to a point they took a lot of the fun out of it. That was second hand information, I have not seen it for myself. That information was told to me from several people that has been there recently(recent as in when I had posted the comment).
Crawford's and Tellico cabins have done as much as they can do to keep the trails open and to keep their business going. But the rest of Murphy doesn't have as much at stake as those two. Sure, we buy gas while there, visit Wally world, and a few restaurants, and the parts stores. I am sure our business is missed with the economy what it is right now, and with winter closing, there will be a group of grateful business owners waiting for the clock to strike "open".
Getting irate over peoples comments will not help the situation. When organizing something like this you have no choice but to meet the needs of the multitudes. With the dates of events clashing then that's not being done.
I hope that this event goes on and the situation can be resolved.
 
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