THE JOB - URINE TEST

rokntoy

rokntoy

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Got this in a e-mail today. Makes sense to me. What do yall think?




THE JOB - URINE TEST
(I sure would like to know who wrote this one! They deserve a HUGE pat on the back!)




I HAVE TO PASS A URINE TEST FOR MY JOB... SO I AGREE 100%.


Like a lot of folks in this state, I have a job. I work, they pay me.

I pay my taxes and the
Government distributes my taxes as it sees fit.

In order to get that paycheck,
I am required to pass a random urine test with which I have no problem.

What I
Do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who don't have
To pass a urine test.

Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare
Check because I have to pass one to earn it for them? Please understand, I have
No problem with helping people get back on their feet.

I do, on the other hand,
Have a problem with helping someone on their butt, doing drugs, while I
Work. . .. .

Can you imagine how much money the state would save if people had
To pass a urine test to get a public assistance check? Pass this along if you
Agree or simply delete if you don't. Hope you all will pass it along, though ......
Something has to change in this country -- and soon!
 
it would cost too much to test and manage all of those drug screenings. However, random drug screenings may be more beneficial than screenings for everyone
 
I believe that people that use welfare and gov't housing as there primary income and do not have a job, should have to work some type of community service to compensate for the money that they are drawing from the community.
This is directed towards a specific group of people that abuse the privilege of welfare.

This is not directed towards single moms/dads, that are having to support their children.
 
LEGALIZE THE PLANT!!
i felt that was needed
for the most part i agree with you but most major companies have gone away with "thc" test and check for the harder stuff meth cocaine MDMA and so on. when i got a job for cisco systems the only question was "have you been charged with a crime? exclude minor marijuana offences and traffic offences"...
to sum it up weed isnt good or bad its your opinion b/c hey its just a plant. people arent on the streets shooting up weed its the other mind altering substances out there.
im sure im going to get a lot of flac for his post from fathers/concerned citizens/whom ever
i feel like if weed hinders you daily life than stop if not keep on keeping on you dig?
other drugs f them if you cant get off crack no mo money from uncle sam

but you remember that sci-fi movie gattica? thats what americas turning into


i personally hate pee test its degrading having some dude look at you pecker while you pee in a cup. would you want to do this every time? clean pee or not .its getting out of control if you ask me. ill find the link but i think it was texas a high school drug tested there senior class all who failed, mostly for pot were expelled what if that was your kid who tried pot once and got chewed up and spit out by the system and never graduated and diddnt get to go to his ivy league school
 
pattyb said:
but most major companies have gone away with "thc" test
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Blue cross will sure test for it on random insurance screenings and then offer to insure you for around $500 a month if you fail. Otherwise I agree with your post, I've witnessed more dumbass things done under the influence of alchohol than weed for sure.
As far as it being to expensive to test eveyone, do we just turn our heads and continue to pay? I'm sure taking time and weeding (pun) out the people who would fail would surely save lots of $$$$$ in the long run.
 
Sounds like a great idea. I'm sure it would backfire. Say somebody fails for crack and is cut off from welfare well he/she gets depressed and smokes his last rock, now not having any free income or housing has this person real mad plus they are high and want more dope so they go rob somebody or steal or even kill for money or drugs doing whatever for more drugs you know anything but get a job
 
LEGALIZE IT! Im all for the trees (not in a treehugger way) but it doesnt hinder your perception of reality, might make you laugh a little bit more but it doesnt cause you to steal/rob/kill to support a habit or cause all the health defects associated w/ hard drugs. If anything, its a healing agent!

I say do hair sample tests. Pee tests are inconclusive and can easily be passed (trust me i know). Whereas hair sample tests are foolproof and can tell an exact amount. Its like carbon dating.
 
I agree with the whole "green" conversation going on here. I highly believe that if you want to toke up after you get off work or whenever you're not doing anything that will put others at risk, you should be more than legally able to.

Not once have me or anyone I know done anything life/career/future threating because they were a little too silly.

Just my .02
 
... the world would be at peace if everyone toked up! We would have alot more fat people out there though!
 
y2kcrawler said:
... the world would be at peace if everyone toked up! We would have alot more fat people out there though!
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Oh come on. Weed is not going to put the world at rest. I don't and never have smoked weed and have no intention but I have no issue with legalizing it, if that's what they want to do so be it, at least they can get some tax money from it. I think it's a lot less dangerous than people drinking too much and getting on the road.

As for the drug test to receive unemployment I totally agree and wish they would as I also have to take randoms and had one when I first started. It sure would cut out a lot of money.
 
Wow every pothead who has responded totally missed the point. Who gives a fuck about pot. You think that's the only thing people do? You think pot makes you lose your fucking job and house and all your friends? You think people on welfare who do drugs are just smokin ganja? Try again.
I'm sure there are losers who have lost it all from weed but REAL drugs do it at higher rates that and alcohol which perfectly legal to drown in, so yea testing would be good, but probably backfire my point was harder drugs the first post was illegal substances in general, nobody gives a damn if you use marijuana as a recreational drug
 
y2kcrawler said:
I say do hair sample tests. Pee tests are inconclusive and can easily be passed (trust me i know). Whereas hair sample tests are foolproof and can tell an exact amount. Its like carbon dating.
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yeah... and hair tests also cost about 20x as much, too. Plus they can go waaaay back in time (for those of us w/ long hair). Who wants to get shitcanned for the drugs you did years ago? That's not exactly fair. The one (and only) thing a pee test has going for it is you know the person did it recently.
My point: hair test=impractical on that level. We'd be talking hundreds of thousands of tests.

I'm in favor of the idea though. Not really b/c of the idea that "drugs are bad", but rather simply, they are illegal.
If you are receiving public money, people's tax money, then you should not also be breaking the law.

I also believe that if you are receiving welfare for your children, then birth control should also be mandatory.
I'm willing to help you out when times are rough, hey bad things happen sometimes, I want your kids to be able to eat - even if I think you're a shitbag, I'll still feel sorry for the kids... but you shouldn't be bringing any more of them to the table that I'm putting food on...
 
RatLabGuy said:
I also believe that if you are receiving welfare for your children, then birth control should also be mandatory.
I'm willing to help you out when times are rough, hey bad things happen sometimes, I want your kids to be able to eat - even if I think you're a shitbag, I'll still feel sorry for the kids... but you shouldn't be bringing any more of them to the table that I'm putting food on...
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I agree. One more kid and I'd be on welfare which is why I'm getting a vasectomy (you're welcome)
 
4x4fever said:
Sounds like a great idea. I'm sure it would backfire. Say somebody fails for crack and is cut off from welfare well he/she gets depressed and smokes his last rock, now not having any free income or housing has this person real mad plus they are high and want more dope so they go rob somebody or steal or even kill for money or drugs doing whatever for more drugs you know anything but get a job
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A lot of them do that already and get free checks and health care. How would would you notice a backfire when its already taking place?

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FishHunt said:
A lot of them do that already and get free checks and health care. How would would you notice a backfire when its already taking place?
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I know it already happens but take away the freebies and you will see crimerates go up and unemployment stay the same.
 
Well I agree with the harder drugs being more important on drug tests. Too many people get busted for weed when the people doing the harder drugs should be the big things to look for.

At the school I go to (Wyotech), if you get surrounded with suspicion of smoking weed, or doing drugs during class or coming to class intoxicated you get piss tested, I find that absolutely fair.
 
4x4fever said:
Wow every pothead who has responded totally missed the point. Who gives a fuck about pot. You think that's the only thing people do? You think pot makes you lose your fucking job and house and all your friends? You think people on welfare who do drugs are just smokin ganja? Try again.
I'm sure there are losers who have lost it all from weed but REAL drugs do it at higher rates that and alcohol which perfectly legal to drown in, so yea testing would be good, but probably backfire my point was harder drugs the first post was illegal substances in general, nobody gives a damn if you use marijuana as a recreational drug
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Na I dont think those things. I was just implying that pot shouldnt be one of the things they look for when drug testing. alcohol (even though its legal) yes b/c that inhibits your thought process and motor skills where as pot really only makes you goofy. They should check for all the inhibitors: Heroin/crack/coke/ecstacy (which all of these consist of the same elements) and alter your perception.

RatLabGuy said:
yeah... and hair tests also cost about 20x as much, too. Plus they can go waaaay back in time (for those of us w/ long hair). Who wants to get shitcanned for the drugs you did years ago? That's not exactly fair. The one (and only) thing a pee test has going for it is you know the person did it recently.
My point: hair test=impractical on that level. We'd be talking hundreds of thousands of tests.

I'm in favor of the idea though. Not really b/c of the idea that "drugs are bad", but rather simply, they are illegal.
If you are receiving public money, people's tax money, then you should not also be breaking the law.

I also believe that if you are receiving welfare for your children, then birth control should also be mandatory.
I'm willing to help you out when times are rough, hey bad things happen sometimes, I want your kids to be able to eat - even if I think you're a shitbag, I'll still feel sorry for the kids... but you shouldn't be bringing any more of them to the table that I'm putting food on...
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True with the hair tests, they are more expensive and they go back as far as 7 years. But thats where I said it is like carbon dating, they can go back that far, but they can also tell the consitancy, amount, and when you did it (within reason).

And great idea about birth control. Except with that it would have to be administered through a nurse b/c really, with all these people having a mess of kids and keep on doing it even though they know they cant support em will forget to take their BC. Thats why they should just get their tubes tied/vacetamy (sp?).
 
RatLabGuy said:
yeah... and hair tests also cost about 20x as much, too. Plus they can go waaaay back in time (for those of us w/ long hair). Who wants to get shitcanned for the drugs you did years ago? That's not exactly fair. The one (and only) thing a pee test has going for it is you know the person did it recently.
My point: hair test=impractical on that level. We'd be talking hundreds of thousands of tests.
I'm in favor of the idea though. Not really b/c of the idea that "drugs are bad", but rather simply, they are illegal.
If you are receiving public money, people's tax money, then you should not also be breaking the law.
I also believe that if you are receiving welfare for your children, then birth control should also be mandatory.
I'm willing to help you out when times are rough, hey bad things happen sometimes, I want your kids to be able to eat - even if I think you're a shitbag, I'll still feel sorry for the kids... but you shouldn't be bringing any more of them to the table that I'm putting food on...
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damn straight about the birth control! thats one of the best ideas ive ever heard!:beer:
 
4x4fever said:
I know it already happens but take away the freebies and you will see crimerates go up and unemployment stay the same.
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I have watched the crime rates and unemployment rates both climb. The welfare checks they keep a coming. Why not at least random drug test people who get them and cut off the funds to those who are caught? There is a lot of money to be saved by doing this. There is nothing to lose by random drug testing them.

<><Fish
 
The money saved by not having to pay it out to people who fail a drug test will probably by far offset the cost of the drug testing. I'm all for it. And the having to do community service while on government assistance to help repay some of the benefits is a great idea.
 
I beleive the point that the original poster was talking about was if I HAVE to be tested to pay INTO it, then why shouldn't anyone have to be tested to RECEIVE it. I agree completely. I'm not saying you can't or shouldn't do drugs (Hell, you can smoke all the crack you want, doesn't matter to me) but if you want MY money (welfare) then you gotta play by the same rules as me. You don't want to pee in a cup? No problem, no free shit for you!
 
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