Things that go bang Room

[UTfball68]

So after 9 months, really starting to get settled in the ‘new’ house, and I have this closet/storage space just off the man cave. I’ve been thinking it’s a perfect storage area to turn in to a gun room. Being a second floor room I’m thinking just a more secure/insulated door, reinforce the door frame, maybe just hang some fire retardant blankets from the walls and better racking. I already have an anchored gun safe for the guns I care about, and smaller easy access safes around the house. This room would specifically be for extras and spares. Carpentry isn’t my forte, so ideas/thoughts/opinions on utilizing this space for gun storage???

 

[1-tonmudder]

Gonna call it "the boom boom room"??

 

[tkeaton]

Whats the small, elevated door to the right? Attic access?

 

[braxton357]

I had these guys Vault Doors - Homeland Safes build me a digital keypad "level 5" I believe vault door a while back. Took a few months to get but the price was great and they can do whatever size you need. Might give them a look they have some lighter weight stuff as well.

 

[UTfball68]

Gonna call it "the boom boom room"??

Was gonna title the thread ‘bang bang room’...but figured that would get this moved to the garage with a quickness

Whats the small, elevated door to the right? Attic access?

Yessir...attic access. I have about 3x’s the attic space I need, so that’ll probably be a thread at a later date about finishing out part of it with drywall and ventilation to make a gym space.

 

[UTfball68]

I had these guys Vault Doors - Homeland Safes build me a digital keypad "level 5" I believe vault door a while back. Took a few months to get but the price was great and they can do whatever size you need. Might give them a look they have some lighter weight stuff as well.

That would be pretty awesome, and actually better than what I was looking at. Thanks.

Edit...only issue I see here is mounting. Instructions say mounted to concrete. Not sure if that’s required due to weight or if that’s just what most people anchor doors of this type to.

 

[Tacoma747]

Well there is no sense putting a heavy 'safe' door on the room if the walls are made of sheetrock. A few kicks and someone would just bust through the wall.

 

[UTfball68]

Well there is no sense putting a heavy 'safe' door on the room if the walls are made of sheetrock. A few kicks and someone would just bust through the wall.

So just a non-hollow core door with a key pad and/or dead bolts??? That was originally the direction I was thinking.

 

[1-tonmudder]

Now that I think about it that looks more like a "safe space"

 

[anvilrubi]

I would definetly put my lightsabers in that room.

 

[ManglerYJ]

Gonna call it "the boom boom room"??

So that's what Matt Lauer calls it nowadays.....

 

[braxton357]

So just a non-hollow core door with a key pad and/or dead bolts??? That was originally the direction I was thinking.

If you're going for something simple I would personally get an exterior steel door and put a keypad deadbolt on it and call it done. If you were wanting a "gun room" then I would go with a vault door and upgrade the walls.

 

[sawdoff]

Depends on how much effort you want to put into it. I can tell you a few ways that would require a quickie saw to get in and be fireproof. But if its lower value items and secondary storage then effort > needed results

 

[josh m]

Was gonna title the thread ‘bang bang room’...but figured that would get this moved to the garage with a quickness



Yessir...attic access. I have about 3x’s the attic space I need, so that’ll probably be a thread at a later date about finishing out part of it with drywall and ventilation to make a HOT YOGA ROOM.

FIFY

 

[UTfball68]

Depends on how much effort you want to put into it. I can tell you a few ways that would require a quickie saw to get in and be fireproof. But if its lower value items and secondary storage then effort > needed results

No high value stuff in there, everything would be sub-$1500/ea. The higher end stuff is already in safes. Couple grand all in is where I’d wanna be, including anything I’d have to outsource. But not looking to put a whole lot of effort in to it. More of a deterrent to keep people out, and if there was something I could do for some fire protection.

 

[ManglerYJ]

So just a non-hollow core door with a key pad and/or dead bolts??? That was originally the direction I was thinking.

Personally, I'd keep the door the way it is, but put a slide bolt lock on the back side. Use a magnet or a pull rope on the outside to slide the barrel open from the inside. Keeping the door looking the way it is makes it look like just another bathroom to an intruder and they will most likely walk right past it if it blends in. Nobody's going to kick in the door of your bathroom if they are looking for guns. If it looks different than any other door in your house, an intruder will suspect there's something there. My father-in-law was an expert in this kinda stuff. He had a saying. Best way to keep your stuff from getting stolen is to not look like you have stuff to begin with. He would paint his padlocks so they wouldn't shine in the sun. He didn't want people from the road to know he had anything locked up.

 

[josh m]

You could layer a sheet or two of hardie board or layers of fire rated Sheetrock. That was my plan for a closet here. Let's see a crackhead try to kick thru 3-4 layers of 5/8 Sheetrock and you'll have several hour fire rating. This is what they do for duplex apartments to prevent fire spread.


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[mommucked]

...disguise the door, like a bookshelf/cabinets that opens to the goodies room w a hidden locking mechanism.

 

[DLOR]

Hang a closet rod with a shit ton of old jackets across it. Then just push aside to enter. It will be be totally camouflaged and look like everybody else’s hall closet

 

[sawdoff]

Fire ratings need a dead air space. If it were me i would buy sheets of expanded metal to hang over the drywall. Then run horizontal rows of 7/8 ths metal hat channel. Hang one more layer of fire rated sheetrock. You would still have to address the door but think thats been fairly well covered. This system is similiar to an armory in a probation office i built. Although i didnt suggest ballistic board and bullet proof glass for a home


That all being said camoflauging it is an excellent idea.

 

[sawdoff]

just looking back at your post, how many $1500 weapons can you loose before the effort is justified?

 

[UTfball68]

just looking back at your post, how many $1500 weapons can you loose before the effort is justified?

Only a couple of those a couple brownings I’ve acquired but don’t use...most are sub-$500 that would be stored in this room. Right now they’re in a locked locker, so this would be an improvement.

 

[shawn]

Fire rating is a waste of time and money. It's on the second floor. If a fire starts anywhere else in the house, the room is coming down, fire barrier or not.

In multi-family construction, the fire barriers are supported by similarly-rated construction, or are fire walls that continue uninterrupted down to the foundations. You don't have either of those here.

 

[UTfball68]

Fire rating is a waste of time and money. It's on the second floor. If a fire starts anywhere else in the house, the room is coming down, fire barrier or not.

In multi-family construction, the fire barriers are supported by similarly-rated construction, or are fire walls that continue uninterrupted down to the foundations. You don't have either of those here.

So you’re thinking a waste of time? I was primarily thinking for something where it might buy me some time to get a couple fire extinguishers without loss. Not if the house goes up in flames.

 

[CasterTroy]

So you’re thinking a waste of time?

For a rated/vault?

Yes

What you have is ideal for concealment, but not for security, therefore use That as the advantage. As said, construct a coat closet and build a false back for entry. Forget heavy doors and fire ratings. If this were a basement room we'd be talking another animal entirely