Towing Company Problem (KVEGAS)

If I was your brother, I would tell the apartment complex manager to credit my account for $400 or I will be moving at the end of the month.
 
drkelly said:
If I was your brother, I would tell the apartment complex manager to credit my account for $400 or I will be moving at the end of the month.
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This... from this point on, GET IT IN WRITING. Don't just knock $400 off your rent and give them a check without something from them saying it's OK to do so. If not, they will say you underpaid your rent and have grounds for eviction. Now, that process is long and a PITA, but you don't need to give them any ammunition. They were in the wrong, they just need to own up to it.
 
His lease ends in 3 months, he said if they won't work with him on the tow bill hes just going to squat until they kick him out. Last I checked it takes about 90 days.
 
XJfreakHO said:
His lease ends in 3 months, he said if they won't work with him on the tow bill hes just going to squat until they kick him out. Last I checked it takes about 90 days.
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I wouldn't think that is the best idea, I would think they can ding your credit if you don't pay rent, and I am sure he won't get any form of security deposit back.
 
DSM Turbos said:
I wouldn't think that is the best idea, I would think they can ding your credit if you don't pay rent, and I am sure he won't get any form of security deposit back.
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This..plus if they file judgement for eviction or pay or quit motions...it will be picked up by tenant screening and then...well he better be ready to buy a house because most wont rent in those situations
 
yeah, not a good idea.
 
The issue is he said she said. It all depends on the writing in the lease. If in the lease it states that no unregistered cars can be parked on the location then it's a lose lose. The apartment manager might have gotten pressure from the apartment owners or some other outside source. It's an all around shitty situation.
 
XJfreakHO said:
His lease ends in 3 months, he said if they won't work with him on the tow bill hes just going to squat until they kick him out. Last I checked it takes about 90 days.
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Evictions in JoCo take place is 30 days typically. He might get 45 days depending on when rent is due versus when they start the process. Of course it could be different in your county/city.

Duane
 
Echs332000 said:
The issue is he said she said. It all depends on the writing in the lease. If in the lease it states that no unregistered cars can be parked on the location then it's a lose lose. The apartment manager might have gotten pressure from the apartment owners or some other outside source. It's an all around shitty situation.
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It is a very shitty situation, and I hope they cooperate and accept their faults.
I have a huge problem with the apartment manager at this point, and I am anxiously waiting to find out which neighbor called the vehicles in.

I bet I could guess which neighbor it is... There is a mexican family that lets their dog out without a leash, he likes to chase people and bark a lot. Recently we were out and the dog ran up on us, we threw playboy in the jeep to protect their dog... ended up having to argue with the morons for 10 minutes including me informing them that if their mutt bit me I would dump the body in the dumpster. Fun times.
 
That's the problem. The apartment isn't at fault. I doubt they will lift a finger to pay any money back. Contracts usually outweigh anything else. "M" might have to suck this up as a loss. I've had this same thing happen to me. Nothing I could do about it but pay the fees and hold my temper
 
I despise tow companies as much as anyone, but you fucked your bro by leaving the jeep. 1 non driving vehicle--ok, 2 non driving vehicles--starting a scrap yard. Honestly, it's an apartment complex...no one wants to see a bunch of old non driving junk sitting everywhere, he got a year of free storage.
 
braxton357 said:
I despise tow companies as much as anyone, but you fucked your bro by leaving the jeep. 1 non driving vehicle--ok, 2 non driving vehicles--starting a scrap yard. Honestly, it's an apartment complex...no one wants to see a bunch of old non driving junk sitting everywhere, he got a year of free storage.
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no he got a year of storage for $400......
 
Echs332000 said:
That's the problem. The apartment isn't at fault. I doubt they will lift a finger to pay any money back. Contracts usually outweigh anything else. "M" might have to suck this up as a loss. I've had this same thing happen to me. Nothing I could do about it but pay the fees and hold my temper
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That's where I differ in opinion. As was stated, I'd try to get the officer who took the complaint to explain how he verified any of the story. Again, if another tenant complains, they still need to verify with the property owner or manager. They can deal with nuisance/noise complaints without, but that is a private property issue. Best bet would be to have the officer meet you at the office and discuss with the manager to get stories straight, but at this point all parties (but you) are satisfied with the outcome, so they may not be so inclined.
 
snappy said:
no he got a year of storage for $400......
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If it's been there since 2012, I'd say he's still in the free year range. :flipoff2:

And I could be wrong on this one, but a vast majority of the time somewhere in an apartment complex's contract it will say something about having extra non-op vehicles sitting outside.
 
ManglerYJ said:
That's where I differ in opinion. As was stated, I'd try to get the officer who took the complaint to explain how he verified any of the story. Again, if another tenant complains, they still need to verify with the property owner or manager. They can deal with nuisance/noise complaints without, but that is a private property issue. Best bet would be to have the officer meet you at the office and discuss with the manager to get stories straight, but at this point all parties (but you) are satisfied with the outcome, so they may not be so inclined.
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I don't understand where you disagree. If the lease says that non registered cars cant be parked on the property then the complex is in the right. (Morally maybe not). By then allowing the mustang to be parked there for a year is actually a favor to the tenant. Adding in ANOTHER unregistered car just aggravates the situation.

by him not paying his rent to try and recoup the cost is going to end up biting him in the ass. Not only will he be responsible for unpaid rent, he will be responsible for court cost, and also that negative impact on his credit and his renter history

I hate it for him because I know both parties personally and hate to see someone lose money over something as stupid as this.
 
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braxton357 said:
I despise tow companies as much as anyone, but you fucked your bro by leaving the jeep. 1 non driving vehicle--ok, 2 non driving vehicles--starting a scrap yard. Honestly, it's an apartment complex...no one wants to see a bunch of old non driving junk sitting everywhere, he got a year of free storage.
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Maybe you should learn to read...?
The jeep was in driving condition and cranked up and drove out of the impound on its own will as was stated several times in this thread.
The jeep was there less than a week, and tagged and insured (granted, the tag was 3 months out of date, but it was accurate and for the vehicle, with registration in the glove box). There is no excuse for it to have been towed.
We also covered that the apartment manager knew the car didn't run, told him exactly where to park it and said it wasn't a problem.
Now if it had become a problem, and she had called him, the car would have been moved to either my house or our Dad's house. But there was no call or warning and as was said repeatedly, though you seem to have missed... She gave the approval.
 
XJfreakHO said:
Maybe you should learn to read...?
The jeep was in driving condition and cranked up and drove out of the impound on its own will as was stated several times in this thread.
The jeep was there less than a week, and tagged and insured (granted, the tag was 3 months out of date, but it was accurate and for the vehicle, with registration in the glove box). There is no excuse for it to have been towed.
We also covered that the apartment manager knew the car didn't run, told him exactly where to park it and said it wasn't a problem.
Now if it had become a problem, and she had called him, the car would have been moved to either my house or our Dad's house. But there was no call or warning and as was said repeatedly, though you seem to have missed... She gave the approval.
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As the apartment manager, I will bet she did not have legal authority (according to the lease agreement that your brother signed) to modify the terms of the contract. Contract takes precedence and changing the lease agreement will likely take an officer of the OWNERSHIP (not management) company and a notary to ensure.

If you choose to persue this to the 9th degree (and honeslty I wouldnt you will likely lose) your best legal recourse play is that the car was allowed to remain in place for 18 months, in plain view, without any issue and as such legal precedent might take place.

However my tenant lease agreement specifically states that my failure to enforce existing laws does not preculde me from enforcing them in the future. I am sure the one yall signed says similar.
 
I do not believe he intends to involve a lawyer, my vehicle is unharmed so I am not too concerned anymore.
I encouraged him to go to a shop and have the damage to the mustang assessed and add that to the $400 tow bill and present that to the apartment complex and see where that leads.
You are probably right, she may not have had the authority to make the call she did... But we are not to that stage yet.

Without sitting down and talking to my brother and going over things in person I really don't know what he should do next.
@Echs332000 and several other locals know my brother, he is quiet and doesn't like confrontation. IMO he is more likely to not say a word, and just not pay the rent and tell them its because hes broke.

I hope that isn't the case, but at this point I am no longer involved in his decision making process, that was made clear when they excluded me from picking up the vehicles.
 
XJfreakHO said:
Maybe you should learn to read...?
The jeep was in driving condition and cranked up and drove out of the impound on its own will as was stated several times in this thread.
The jeep was there less than a week, and tagged and insured (granted, the tag was 3 months out of date, but it was accurate and for the vehicle, with registration in the glove box). There is no excuse for it to have been towed.
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So... What I'm reading here is that you admit that the vehicle had an expired registration, meaning that it could not be legally operated and was likely parked in the lot in violation of your brother's lease, but that there was "no reason" to tow it.

Interesting.
 
shawn said:
So... What I'm reading here is that you admit that the vehicle had an expired registration, meaning that it could not be legally operated and was likely parked in the lot in violation of your brother's lease, but that there was "no reason" to tow it.

Interesting.
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Lol yeah.

I understand your point, and I do not disagree. I am only trying to explain that because the apartment manager gave the "OK" and even encouraged it as long as the vehicles were parked in a certain area (As they were) that the complex is in the wrong. Had they notified him in any way prior to the vehicle removal, and he just ignored it. That would be different. But they made no effort to notify him even though she knew the vehicles were his. That is the problem.
 
XJfreakHO said:
Lol yeah.

I understand your point, and I do not disagree. I am only trying to explain that because the apartment manager gave the "OK" and even encouraged it as long as the vehicles were parked in a certain area (As they were) that the complex is in the wrong. Had they notified him in any way prior to the vehicle removal, and he just ignored it. That would be different. But they made no effort to notify him even though she knew the vehicles were his. That is the problem.
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No, as others have pointed out, if his lease forbade the storage of unregistered vehicles on the property (and most do), what anybody said previously doesn't matter. As soon as someone complained, they were bound to honor the conditions of the lease.

If you don't like it, I'm currently renting two parking spaces -- one costs me $5/day, the other is $50/mo. You can probably find something similar local to you, but it might be cheaper to just pay the tow bill every once in a while.
 
shawn said:
No, as others have pointed out, if his lease forbade the storage of unregistered vehicles on the property (and most do), what anybody said previously doesn't matter. As soon as someone complained, they were bound to honor the conditions of the lease.

If you don't like it, I'm currently renting two parking spaces -- one costs me $5/day, the other is $50/mo. You can probably find something similar local to you, but it might be cheaper to just pay the tow bill every once in a while.
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Lol. I own an acre of land in Greensboro, I rent a house with 2 acres of yard (plenty of parking) in Stokesdale, my dad owns several acre's in Clemmons. The vehicles were only at the apartment because the manager said it was alright and it was convenient. Not that I have no where else to keep the vehicles. The mustang is now in Clemmons and my jeep is at a friends until I can hook up the trailer to get it home.

I suppose I expect more from people... She knew who the vehicles belonged to, she knew my brothers number. If I were in her shoes, and said it was okay to park in X spaces without worry, I would have called him and said "Hey, I need you to move the vehicles, we had a complaint, I am sorry" and there would have been no bad blood, would have loaded the stang on the trailer and moved it and driven the jeep away or trailered it. No harm no foul. Expecting people to have honor was our mistake. Won't happen again.

ManglerYJ said:
The question I have is whether or not it was clear to the manager the relationship between vehicle A (Mustang) and vehicle B (Jeep). Since neither were tagged, it is difficult to associate them quickly. This is again, where the PO should have spoken with apartment manager.
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My XJ has a 44/60 long arms, flipped rear springs stretched 5 inches and sits on 39s. My brothers XJ has a 44/9 Modified radius arms, flipped rear springs stretched 5 inches on 38s. They were 10 feet apart (his XJ is also not currently registered) He also has a car trailer, a powerstroke (Legal), a del sol (legal), and ofcourse the mustang. All within 10 spaces. The manager knows him well as I said, he always has friends over, usually with large jeeps, especially me, who she has also met on several occasions and knows my jeep.
 
XJfreakHO said:
Lol. I own an acre of land in Greensboro, I rent a house with 2 acres of yard (plenty of parking) in Stokesdale, my dad owns several acre's in Clemmons. The vehicles were only at the apartment because the manager said it was alright and it was convenient. Not that I have no where else to keep the vehicles. The mustang is now in Clemmons and my jeep is at a friends until I can hook up the trailer to get it home.

I suppose I expect more from people... She knew who the vehicles belonged to, she knew my brothers number. If I were in her shoes, and said it was okay to park in X spaces without worry, I would have called him and said "Hey, I need you to move the vehicles, we had a complaint, I am sorry" and there would have been no bad blood, would have loaded the stang on the trailer and moved it and driven the jeep away or trailered it. No harm no foul. Expecting people to have honor was our mistake. Won't happen again.



My XJ has a 44/60 long arms, flipped rear springs stretched 5 inches and sits on 39s. My brothers XJ has a 44/9 Modified radius arms, flipped rear springs stretched 5 inches on 38s. They were 10 feet apart (his XJ is also not currently registered) He also has a car trailer, a powerstroke (Legal), a del sol (legal), and ofcourse the mustang. All within 10 spaces. The manager knows him well as I said, he always has friends over, usually with large jeeps, especially me, who she has also met on several occasions and knows my jeep.
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Sounds like the problem is the apartment manager and the fact that we have no pics of her to determine the quality of her judgement and trustworthiness.
 
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