Towing Company Problem (KVEGAS)

[braxton357]

Sounds like the problem is the apartment manager and the fact that we have no pics of her to determine the quality of her judgement and trustworthiness.

 

[Jody Treadway]

IMO, what this comes down to is a verbal agreement doesn't hold a candle against a legally binding one. His car and your Jeep had no legal right to be where they were. Period. Someone in a position of authority had them removed, legally. Unfortunately, you have no recourse aside from paying the tow bill and keeping them on your own property where expired/non-tagged personal items can legally be without fear of being towed.
Sucks, but it's the way it is.
I rent commercial shop space. My landlord says no undriveable vehicles outside the shop and that is in my lease agreement. Guess what, I have to abide by his rules or else risk having something towed.

 

[Fart]

The only thing remotely resembling a theft here is that the property manager told them they could park there and then someone along the way reneged on the deal without first giving them the option to move their vehicles. I feel bad for the people who actually think the management, police, and tow company have the right to walk all over the paying tenants here. You completely ignore the $500+/month that this guy was paying to live there and you completely ignore the fact that the vehicle owners could/would have made other arrangements if they hadn't been told it was ok to park there. It's all good until it's your vehicle/$630 on the line I guess. Don't come crying to me for help when someone stomps all over your rights.

 

[Echs332000]

Next time get everything in writing. Problem solved

 

[braxton357]

The only thing remotely resembling a theft here is that the property manager told them they could park there and then someone along the way reneged on the deal without first giving them the option to move their vehicles. I feel bad for the people who actually think the management, police, and tow company have the right to walk all over the paying tenants here. You completely ignore the $500+/month that this guy was paying to live there and you completely ignore the fact that the vehicle owners could/would have made other arrangements if they hadn't been told it was ok to park there. It's all good until it's your vehicle/$630 on the line I guess. Don't come crying to me for help when someone stomps all over your rights.

Nowhere did anyone say it wasn't shitty to have not been notified prior to towing, though there were apparently notices stuck to the vehicles beforehand? But where in the fuck do your "rights" come into play when it comes to parking all of your junk in an apartment complex parking lot? Try living in an HOA where you own the house and land and still aren't allowed to leave a non-op vehicle boat or trailer in view. It's your right to live in a trailer park and put as many iroc camaros as you want in the yard or buy a house in the country and not deal with any of this.

 

[Jody Treadway]

The only thing remotely resembling a theft here is that the property manager told them they could park there and then someone along the way reneged on the deal without first giving them the option to move their vehicles. I feel bad for the people who actually think the management, police, and tow company have the right to walk all over the paying tenants here. You completely ignore the $500+/month that this guy was paying to live there and you completely ignore the fact that the vehicle owners could/would have made other arrangements if they hadn't been told it was ok to park there. It's all good until it's your vehicle/$630 on the line I guess. Don't come crying to me for help when someone stomps all over your rights.

It wasn't his right to park there. It was his privilege to do so. Douche move to have it towed? Yep, but it wasn't a storage lot.

 

[Echs332000]

Nowhere did anyone say it wasn't shitty to have not been notified prior to towing, though there were apparently notices stuck to the vehicles beforehand? But where in the fuck do your "rights" come into play when it comes to parking all of your junk in an apartment complex parking lot? Try living in an HOA where you own the house and land and still aren't allowed to leave a non-op vehicle boat or trailer in view. It's your right to live in a trailer park and put as many iroc camaros as you want in the yard or buy a house in the country and not deal with any of this.

That "Irocz" comment brings the win lmao

 

[Fart]

But where in the fuck do your "rights" come into play when it comes to parking all of your junk in an apartment complex parking lot?

Heaven forbid you hold somebody to their word in 2014.
BTW, I'm sure this guy and his brother don't think their vehicles are junk.

Try living in an HOA where you own the house and land and still aren't allowed to leave a non-op vehicle boat or trailer in view. It's your right to live in a trailer park and put as many iroc camaros as you want in the yard or buy a house in the country and not deal with any of this.

Your "IROC Camaro" comment is cute. One of my homes has a HOA, but it's voluntary, it costs $30/year, and it's basically a social club that takes care of the sign/grass at the entrance to the community. They have no power over what I do with my property. I was smart enough not to buy a home where my neighbors have any power beyond the federal/state/county/city codes, but if you think that means I live in a trailer park I'll let you keep on thinking that.

It wasn't his right to park there. It was his privilege to do so. Douche move to have it towed? Yep, but it wasn't a storage lot.

I'm sorry you don't expect people to follow through when they give you their word, but I do.
Especially when I have the privilege of paying them $500+/month.

Really folks..."Land of the free" doesn't mean "free to profit by lying and deceiving". GTFO.

 

[YotaOnRocks]

Was this in abbotts creek?

 

[Jody Treadway]

Heaven forbid you hold somebody to their word in 2014.
BTW, I'm sure this guy and his brother don't think their vehicles are junk.



Your "IROC Camaro" comment is cute. One of my homes has a HOA, but it's voluntary, it costs $30/year, and it's basically a social club that takes care of the sign/grass at the entrance to the community. They have no power over what I do with my property. I was smart enough not to buy a home where my neighbors have any power beyond the federal/state/county/city codes, but if you think that means I live in a trailer park I'll let you keep on thinking that.



I'm sorry you don't expect people to follow through when they give you their word, but I do.
Especially when I have the privilege of paying them $500+/month.

Really folks..."Land of the free" doesn't mean "free to profit by lying and deceiving". GTFO.

People's word > business decisions made to keep the masses (other renters) happy. Not to go "all mom" about it. But what if many other renters did the same thing and there was an abundance of non tagged vehicles present?

 

[XJfreakHO]

Sounds like the problem is the apartment manager and the fact that we have no pics of her to determine the quality of her judgement and trustworthiness.

hahahahahahahaha.

With that kind of logic we should have never trusted her unless we bumped into her while trying to cross a bridge and she demanded a toll.

 

[Fart]

People's word > business decisions made to keep the masses (other renters) happy. Not to go "all mom" about it. But what if many other renters did the same thing and there was an abundance of non tagged vehicles present?

It's simple:
- Stop giving permission.
- Tow the ones that don't have permission.
- Revoke permission from the ones that you have already given by telling them that they have x number of days to remove their vehicles.
- If you don't know who has permission and who doesn't you give notice to all tenants along with a reasonable time to resolve the problem before letting a tow company rape them.

None of this should be difficult for a business to manage as part of their day to day operations. We're not expecting them to jump through a shit ton of hoops to do the right thing here.

It's a shame some of you guys would rather support some soulless corporation's "right" to rip off their tenants than to support an actual member of this community who was paying their rent and trying to do their best based on the word of the property manager. I find it hard to believe that if it were your vehicle and someone told you it was ok to park there you'd just go along with it when they towed your vehicle and gave you a $630 bill.

 

[rodney eppes]

OK, so, beyond All this; Who/What/How, does the towing company have the right to hold a vehicle, over a weekend, so they can collect More storage fees? Charlotte has had So much trouble with unscrupulous towing companies, they had to wright new regulations on towing & charges!

 

[shawn]

Heaven forbid you hold somebody to their word in 2014.

Yeah, let's talk about that, because I think you're on to something here.

His brother signed a lease. He acted in violation of that lease. In short, he didn't "keep his word", and he got called on it. Not keeping his word cost him $400.

 

[mysterync]

My understanding is NC law has a limit on per day storage fees and it's not high for weekend days. City ordinances may have jurisdiction on top of that I'm not sure.

 

[Fart]

Yeah, let's talk about that, because I think you're on to something here.

His brother signed a lease. He acted in violation of that lease. In short, he didn't "keep his word", and he got called on it. Not keeping his word cost him $400.

The property manager amended that when they gave him the verbal agreement that he could park both vehicles there. It's not a violation of the agreement if both parties agreed to the amendment.

 

[shawn]

The property manager amended that when they gave him the verbal agreement that he could park both vehicles there. It's not a violation of the agreement if both parties agreed to the amendment.

Contract modifications don't count if they're not in writing.

 

[rodney eppes]

My understanding is NC law has a limit on per day storage fees and it's not high for weekend days. City ordinances may have jurisdiction on top of that I'm not sure.

Probably so, but if I'm towed on Friday, & show up 2-3 hours later, to retrieve it, HOW can they refuse me? I "Might" could see a possibility, if they were not open, but if they tow & impound, I would think they would have to be on-call, 24-7! Doesn't matter if they Don't charge for the weekend; I'm here Now, to pick up my car Now!

 

[Fart]

Contract modifications don't count if they're not in writing.

I would ask you to cite that, but it really doesn't matter. I could just as easily argue that the verbal contract was a separate contract that superseded the written one by being offered at a later date.

Either way, you might as well go on record to say that you support the company's right to tell their tenant one thing and then act in the completely opposite manner. That's what it really boils down to, right? You think it's all clear for them to lie to their tenants and line the pockets of the towing company? I'm just trying to make sure we understand that it's your position that it's ok for the apartment company's representatives to lie and stick OP and his Brother with the bill.

 

[XJfreakHO]

Nowhere did anyone say it wasn't shitty to have not been notified prior to towing, though there were apparently notices stuck to the vehicles beforehand? But where in the fuck do your "rights" come into play when it comes to parking all of your junk in an apartment complex parking lot? Try living in an HOA where you own the house and land and still aren't allowed to leave a non-op vehicle boat or trailer in view. It's your right to live in a trailer park and put as many iroc camaros as you want in the yard or buy a house in the country and not deal with any of this.

What does an HOA have to do with this thread?

Leave my Irok camaro out of this...

I am not saying the apartment complex was wrong from a legal stand point, though it could be interpreted that way since they did have a verbal agreement and precedent. I am simply saying that for a person to give you their word, and then take it back in a manner of this... it is a problem. Lets rephrase this.

If you parked your junker Bronco in Shawns rented parking space because he gave you the okay, and then Shawn decided the next day he didn't want you parking there and had your Bronco towed without so much as a phone call.
How would you feel?

Probably so, but if I'm towed on Friday, & show up 2-3 hours later, to retrieve it, HOW can they refuse me? I "Might" could see a possibility, if they were not open, but if they tow & impound, I would think they would have to be on-call, 24-7! Doesn't matter if they Don't charge for the weekend; I'm here Now, to pick up my car Now!

This was one of the arguments I was going to present because they are required by law to be open normal business hours (listed as 9-5) 7 days a week for vehicle pick ups, and are not able to charge a storage fee for days where you were unable to retrieve your vehicle because they were not open. Holidays are excluded from that, but it was not a holiday.

However, my brother and father went without me and just paid it.

 

[ord.sgt.26NC]

my thing is...
1:we are only hearing one side of the story.How do we know there wasn't a implied time limit either stated by the brother,i.e."It'll only be hereX amount of time"or by the lady..."you can keep it there Xamount of time".
2:If there was one vehicle sitting there untagged for months and then a second showed up that the tags were dead,I'd be wanting to think the envelope was being pushed and my good will was being taken advantage of.
3:If ya'll have that much land available to sit your cars on,then why did the mustang sit in a parking spot for so long.If your rig is drivable,why are you waiting for a trailer to haul it somewhere?

 

[XJfreakHO]

my thing is...
1:we are only hearing one side of the story.How do we know there wasn't a implied time limit either stated by the brother,i.e."It'll only be hereX amount of time"or by the lady..."you can keep it there Xamount of time".
2:If there was one vehicle sitting there untagged for months and then a second showed up that the tags were dead,I'd be wanting to think the envelope was being pushed and my good will was being taken advantage of.
3:If ya'll have that much land available to sit your cars on,then why did the mustang sit in a parking spot for so long.If your rig is drivable,why are you waiting for a trailer to haul it somewhere?

1) We are still unable to get the property manager on the phone, so we are also waiting to hear her side of this story.

2) His XJ also had dead tags, but wasn't towed. Parked just a few spaces away. Seems like they came for the mustang, and just so happened to look at my jeep because they were next to eachother.

3) The property manager said it was not an issue. He has been accumulating parts to build the car for a long time and whenever he was ready, was going to load it up and drag it to a friends shop (Very close to his apartment) I am only one man, I can't drive my truck over there and then drive the jeep home. I will take the trailer out there and tow it home. It is not a highway ready vehicle, but goes fine under 50 around town. Needs a good deal of fine tuning before I would want to drive it on the highway.

 

[shawn]

I would ask you to cite that, but it really doesn't matter. I could just as easily argue that the verbal contract was a separate contract that superseded the written one by being offered at a later date.

I do this all day long. If it's not in writing, it didn't happen.

If you parked your junker Bronco in Shawns rented parking space because he gave you the okay, and then Shawn decided the next day he didn't want you parking there and had your Bronco towed without so much as a phone call.
How would you feel?

Not an apples to apples comparison.

If it were, Braxton would have a signed contract where he promised that he wouldn't park in my parking spot, but he insists that we agreed verbally that it was cool, then somebody complained to the po po that he was parked there illegally, etc, etc, etc.

 

[XJfreakHO]

Not an apples to apples comparison.

If it were, Braxton would have a signed contract where he promised that he wouldn't park in my parking spot, but he insists that we agreed verbally that it was cool, then somebody complained to the po po that he was parked there illegally, etc, etc, etc.

I am not saying it was a straight up comparison, I am simply asking how he would feel if he was lied to like that.
I suppose being an honest person is my own weakness.

This isn't a matter of legality and frankly I could give 2 shits less about whether or not the law is on her side at this point.

She gave my brother her word, and then she broke it. That is the problem and people like that deserve whatever comes there way.

 

[Fart]

I do this all day long. If it's not in writing, it didn't happen.

You're operating under the assumption that the property manager would lie about the statements he/she made to the tenant, but that's not always the case. He/she may attest on behalf of the tenants if given the opportunity. Believe it or not, there are people out there who aren't willing to compromise their integrity for a paycheck. There's a big difference between lying to save your ass and lying on the stand, under the threat of perjury, after placing your hand on the bible and swearing to tell the truth.