toyota vs jeep

tjruss

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how does a stock drivetrain on an 82 toyota pu compare in strength to a stock 89 jeep cherokee? which one would you buy for trail use?
 
Drivetrain wise, the Toyota wins hands down. 8"s front and rear are better than the D35 and upgradeable FAR beyond the D30. 22R will run forever, however its not EFI, so you would need to address that issue (propane). Tranny....comparable. Tcase, the Toyota wins again IMHO just based on the ease of twinsticking, duals, clocking, gearing, etc.

The Jeep would win in the category of comfort and being able to carry more people and gear in an enclosed space.
 
Yota's are cheaper to do major upgrades and regear.
 
slravene said:
Drivetrain wise, the Toyota wins hands down. 8"s front and rear are better than the D35 and upgradeable FAR beyond the D30. 22R will run forever, however its not EFI, so you would need to address that issue (propane). Tranny....comparable. Tcase, the Toyota wins again IMHO just based on the ease of twinsticking, duals, clocking, gearing, etc.

The Jeep would win in the category of comfort and being able to carry more people and gear in an enclosed space.
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he pretty much hit on everything here, besides they are just so much damn sexier than a heep, i mean jeep...

jus do yourself a HUGE favor and get a toy':beer::beer:
 
I would say get a Toyota too... full frame is one of the biggest things that Toyota has over the cherokee. Plus you cant beat the dependability and beat-ability of the yota drive-train.
 
Get a yota, i have 2 myself. Beat them to hell....
 
Yota' hands down. Full frame, dirt simple suspension, plenty of upgrades, fairly stout in stock form. And if you ever kill it it gives you a good excuse to buy a later model 4runner and swap your older front axle in.
 
hmmm yota 10 jeep 0. i was leaning toward the yota but wasnt sure.have been thinking about a dedicated trail rig i think the yota has won.now i have to put a list of junk oops good stuff together to sell and buy my yota keep all eyes on parts for sale list to come soon.thanks for all you input.
 
toyotafreak said:
he pretty much hit on everything here, besides they are just so much damn sexier than a heep, i mean jeep...
jus do yourself a HUGE favor and get a toy':beer::beer:
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the cherokee can be made just as built as the toy for close to the same....i cna ride with toy guys all day long and i dont have that much in my rig. If you only going to go 33's-35's. the 4.0 is a strong and long lastning motor. the aw4 is awesome in the life span. the only thing i like about a toy is the front is a lil stronger. Plus i love aauto trail rig and the toy autos SUCKKKKKK.
Get a xj and youll be happier.
toy 10- jeep 1
 
chromerunner said:
the cherokee can be made just as built as the toy for close to the same....i cna ride with toy guys all day long and i dont have that much in my rig.
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You're on crack... let's see... to run 33's-35's and be able to beat on it, you'd need longfield joints on the front, and on the rear... oh yeah, nothing. And it damn sure doesn't take 7" of lift to fit a 35" tire, either...
 
Believe me i am a jeep guy, but going with an XJ vs. Yota, i would go Yota. I wouldnt want to dal with the unibody stuff. Now if we were talking bout a CJ that is a differnt story :)
 
Toyota

Toyotas are good, but tend to be overrated. Jeeps are in many ways overrated as well.

Stock, the front axles are comparable.

Get rid of the Dana35, and it becomes a better comparison. Rear axles are cake to swap on leaf sprung vehicles.

I'll take the 4.0 over any of the Yoda 4 cylinders, and the 3.0. Maybe even the 3.4. Is 89 4.0L or 4.2L?

You can get some decent deals on XJs in nice condition. Decent cheap Toyotas are starting to get a little rare.

I would get which ever I can find a better deal on.
 
I say just get a Full size Jeep

there Cheap. stock D44's or AMC 20 rear.
most have a TH400 or TF727 trans

Good wheel base 109" -119" can handle 35's with out axle shaft upgrades. Just stay of the 4wp Rock garden:shaking: and easy on the skinng pedal
 
atblis said:
Toyotas are good, but tend to be overrated. Jeeps are in many ways overrated as well.

Stock, the front axles are comparable.

Get rid of the Dana35, and it becomes a better comparison. Rear axles are cake to swap on leaf sprung vehicles.

I'll take the 4.0 over any of the Yoda 4 cylinders, and the 3.0. Maybe even the 3.4. Is 89 4.0L or 4.2L?

You can get some decent deals on XJs in nice condition. Decent cheap Toyotas are starting to get a little rare.

I would get which ever I can find a better deal on.
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Horse :poop: !!!!

Toyota's are never over rated. :shaking: They have proven themselves time and time again. Cheap and easy to build. Stock parts can take a MAJOR beating.

Jeeps how ever are over rated alot of times. You always see the Pretty boys riding them around with the top down, no lift and the biggest tires you can put under them. They always have this "I can go anywhere" look on their faces. It cracks me up.

Stock axles are not even close to comparable. Plain and simple.

Your right, get rid of the DANA 35 and they are comparable.

Toyota 4 cylinders last forever because they are balanced very nicely. I know the 4.0 has balls, but gear a Toyota T-case and I will take that kinda TQ over balls anyday.

I have seen numerious Toyota stock axles run 36 and 38 inch tires. I run 38's on my rear stock axles shafts.

Cumminsdzl on this board is running stock springs (rear springs) front and rear. Stock geared duals, and 36's. His truck is built cheap and will go just about anywhere.

Obviously I vote TOYOTA. Hands down. No comparison at all.
 
Yota no doubt. Jeeps are ok but why is every time you see a awsome offroad jeep its always a chevy engine axles and trans or Ford or Dodge or Roks. The Rubicons are ok but to little to late.
 
I vote yota as well. I have a jeep and i love it but if I were to start over it would be for a yota because of the weight.
 
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The original context was more or less stock. No tcase doublers, no tcase gears, no longfields, etc. etc.

The Dana 35 is what kills the XJ. If it had a decent rear axle, it would actually be a pretty favorable comparison. EDIT: If the 1989 XJ in question has the Dana 44 rear, that's actually a pretty decent setup.

How's this...
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Ring and pinion is the weak point.

Stock Hipinion 30 compared to a Stock Toy 8" is a reasonable comparison. 33", maybe 35" is max reasonable tires on both.

38's on stock birfields. You must be open and/or don't wheel

I still contend that the Jeep does compare favorably simply because you can pick up a nice fuel injected XJ for pretty cheap right now. They are at a point where they are a good deal. Nice Toyotas are hard to find and or expensive.

As far as Toyotas being overrated. I was kinda applying that to all their vehicles. The more I work on the things, the less I like them. They are decent vehicles, but they aren't that much better than most other things. They have some annoying reoccurring issues that the Toyota fan boys seem to conveniently forget.
 
atblis said:
Ring and pinion is the weak point.
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Not gonna get into a pissing match with you, but I am running 38's and haven't broken a ring and pinion yet, and if you know me..... I beat the shit out of mine.




atblis said:
38's on stock birfields. You must be open and/or don't wheel.
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Locked front and rear....... Longs in the front now but still stock in the rear. If you call Uwharrie wheeling...... then, no I don't wheel. I roll up Budweiser and Kodak in reverse. It's on film if you'd like a copy. But, If you call Crozet black trails, Harlan-lions den and everything else hard they offer, or Tellico wheeling..... then I wheel. Follow me is all I can say.

atblis said:
As far as Toyotas being overrated. I was kinda applying that to all their vehicles. The more I work on the things, the less I like them. They are decent vehicles, but they aren't that much better than most other things. They have some annoying reoccurring issues that the Toyota fan boys seem to conveniently forget.
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No clue what your talking about here...... I usually have minimal maintenance to do. The more I work on mine and my friends..... the more I like them.
 
atblis said:
Ring and pinion is the weak point.

Stock Hipinion 30 compared to a Stock Toy 8" is a reasonable comparison. 33", maybe 35" is max reasonable tires on both.
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I BEG to differ! I run 38.5s with a spool and beat the shit out of it and have not broke one yet. I'll put my Toyota axle up against ANY D30 any day of the week! They are as strong if not stronger than a D44.
 
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