Trump, Clinton, or Johnson

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What?!??
Was that a typo in her speech or was she just being honest?


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What?!??
Was that a typo in her speech or was she just being honest?


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Maybe I heard it wrong...idk


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Vote Trump so Hellary doesn't win.....isn't that what's wrong with our system.

I may not be able to fix anything with my vote, but atleast i vote for the person I believe should be president. Vote your conscience


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I think the reason Clinton and Trump are both in is because of this excact scenario. They were both percieved to be the best chance to get thier side elected. And it's amazing how many people think that way.
I'm not so sure about that.
Kasich was consistently polling as the only Repub candidate who would beat Clinton in the general election, after that being Cruz. But he was seen as too much of classic establishment guy, there was a larger faction of people who wanted something "different" so they went for Trump. Huge mistake IMO.
Clinton got it b/c nobody really wanted to bother taking her on. Too bad Biden wouldn't man up and take on the challenge.

I saw a poll the other day that had Harambe the (dead) gorilla standing a notable chance against these two. That is really sad and embarrassing.
 
And a rigged election goes to the Clinton machine. A revolt is in order.
 
It's coming


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When I was a kid my grandmother lived in another county that was about 30 mins away.If I misbehaved dad would tell me as soon as we got in the car home he was gonna whoop me when I got home.I think he told me soo soon so I could stew on it and dread it cause I knew an ass bustin was comin and it was gonna hurt.By the time I got home I just wanted to get it over with.

This election is the same way to me,I know an ass bustin is comin and its gonna hurt.An honestly I just wanna get it over with.Regardless of who wins it will be another four years of nothin getting done.
 
When I was a kid my grandmother lived in another county that was about 30 mins away.If I misbehaved dad would tell me as soon as we got in the car home he was gonna whoop me when I got home.I think he told me soo soon so I could stew on it and dread it cause I knew an ass bustin was comin and it was gonna hurt.By the time I got home I just wanted to get it over with.

This election is the same way to me,I know an ass bustin is comin and its gonna hurt.An honestly I just wanna get it over with.Regardless of who wins it will be another four years of nothin getting done.

At best!! The purpose for me to vote this year is for local, state, and senate/house seats. If the GOP keeps Congress not much will happen, but if the Dems get majority, I'm afraid people will forget all about Obama, it could be so bad.
 
When I was a kid my grandmother lived in another county that was about 30 mins away.If I misbehaved dad would tell me as soon as we got in the car home he was gonna whoop me when I got home.I think he told me soo soon so I could stew on it and dread it cause I knew an ass bustin was comin and it was gonna hurt.By the time I got home I just wanted to get it over with.

This election is the same way to me,I know an ass bustin is comin and its gonna hurt.An honestly I just wanna get it over with.Regardless of who wins it will be another four years of nothin getting done.


Maybe there's still hope for a landslide victory from #DeezNutz

 
^That actually really surprises me. I figured they'd mostly be Trumpers. Though it looks like its a little bit age related (younger guys like Johnson, older prefer Trump), but not surprised that nobody likes ReClinton.
 
Done some research johnson believes in global warming and wants to tax people for polluting the air with carbon dioxide. If you think most of everything he says sounds good it does because he's nothing more than a flaming liberal.
 
I didn't see the CNN interview (no cable) but everything I have seen he's just about as honest as you can get as a politician. The fact that he owns up to smoking and his faults is a bonus to me. I can't stand arrogant asshats who even when they are wrong can't admit it.... Own that shit! Learn from it....

Here it is:
 
QU Poll Release Detail
Of note:
"In this very negative race, 64 percent of Trump supporters say they are voting mainly anti-Clinton, while 25 percent say they are voting pro-Trump.

Among Clinton supporters, 47 percent are mainly anti-Trump while 32 percent are pro- Clinton. "
 
QU Poll Release Detail
Of note:
"In this very negative race, 64 percent of Trump supporters say they are voting mainly anti-Clinton, while 25 percent say they are voting pro-Trump.

Among Clinton supporters, 47 percent are mainly anti-Trump while 32 percent are pro- Clinton. "

That's actually really disheartening. And I had a buddy that's in local politics give me an answer that appeased me as to how we actually got to this point. I was confused as to how we actually got to this point, via voting, yet everyone is still so pissed off by the candidates. We're living the stereotypical bell curve right now, 15% (or I guess 25% and 32% are actually happy) of the population are happy with the candidate. While that may not sound like a lot now with only 2 candidates, that sliver of the population were championing those candidates during primaries for their parties, which is a much larger slice of the pie. Assume 3 parties, with multiple candidates, if they've carried the same percentage of the population the entire time, it makes sense. Might be elementary to some, and I didn't relay that near as eloquently as my buddy did...but goes to show the grassroots snowball affect can work I suppose.
 
That's actually really disheartening. And I had a buddy that's in local politics give me an answer that appeased me as to how we actually got to this point. I was confused as to how we actually got to this point, via voting, yet everyone is still so pissed off by the candidates. We're living the stereotypical bell curve right now, 15% (or I guess 25% and 32% are actually happy) of the population are happy with the candidate. While that may not sound like a lot now with only 2 candidates, that sliver of the population were championing those candidates during primaries for their parties, which is a much larger slice of the pie. Assume 3 parties, with multiple candidates, if they've carried the same percentage of the population the entire time, it makes sense. Might be elementary to some, and I didn't relay that near as eloquently as my buddy did...but goes to show the grassroots snowball affect can work I suppose.
Not really seeing how that's a bell-curve thing. But it is accurate if you assume that this is the % that are leftover after the primaries.
But this also tells me two things:
1 - both of them are failing to actually win anyone over. You'd think that eventually the people that supported thir primary opponents would give up, accept that they are the best candidate, and support them.
That's not happening.
2 - if there was ever a time for the "rise" of a 3rd party candidate, this should be it. I mean, the vast majority of one, and almost majority of the other group don't like their own candidate and should therefor be open to a more palatable alternative.
Yet, it's still not happening. And I'm convinced it's b/c of the mass psychology that the 2 main parties have such a lock on things that a 3rd party has no chance, hence it is a throw-away vote and a risk of the guy you don't like still winning. Look back at this thread, that's the primary reason people give against Johnson. It's not so much that people don't like him as much as being afraid that splitting Trumps votes allows Clinton to win.
How do you every get past that?
 
Not really seeing how that's a bell-curve thing. But it is accurate if you assume that this is the % that are leftover after the primaries.

I'm operating in a vacuum here and making some gross assumptions based on the data at hand to make sense to me how we got in this predicament. The bell curve was a representation of the entire population now that we only have 2 candidates. 10% of the left are happy, 10% on the right are happy...nobody in the middle 80 is happy. Obviously the numbers aren't playing that nicely and per Matt's article it more accurately looks like only 50% of the entire population seems to be voting out of spite. Anyway, if only 25% of folks now like Trump, fine...but that means he had a significantly larger piece of the approval pie (since it was a smaller pie) when he was competing against other repubs to get the nod. In my head, I'm assuming the approval has stayed the same (or negligibly different, given the scale), and only the standard deviations are what's changing now at the national level. Not necessarily meant for accuracy...just trying to make sense of how we vote on these people, yet no one is happy with the selections.
 
Trump's trip to Mexico to meet with the president was a smart move.
 
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