US congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords shot in Arizona

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Gabrielle Giffords, a Democratic member of the US House of Representatives, was shot in the head at close range in front of hundreds of people.
A spokeswoman denied earlier reports that she had died and told ABC News she was in surgery.
A man was arrested after the shooting at a supermarket in Tucson where Ms Giffords was meeting constituents.
GABRIELLE GIFFORDS
  • Represents the eighth district of Arizona in the House
  • First elected in 2006, re-elected to third term last November
  • Has focused on immigration reform, military issues, stem-cell research and alternative energy
  • Served in Arizona Senate 2003 to 2005
  • Served in Arizona House 2001 to 2003
  • Grew up in Tucson, Arizona
  • Married to US astronaut Mark Kelly
Members of her staff were among up to 12 other people who were also shot. Reports say one of her aides has died.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12143774
 
We should have swift punishment for the gun man. I read on yahoo that his facebook farewells and a youtube video were pulled shortly after this happened. Prayers out to all the victims and their families.
 
Hyperlite said:
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Gabrielle Giffords, a Democratic member of the US House of Representatives, was shot in the head at close range in front of hundreds of people.
A spokeswoman denied earlier reports that she had died and told ABC News she was in surgery.
A man was arrested after the shooting at a supermarket in Tucson where Ms Giffords was meeting constituents.
GABRIELLE GIFFORDS
  • Represents the eighth district of Arizona in the House
  • First elected in 2006, re-elected to third term last November
  • Has focused on immigration reform, military issues, stem-cell research and alternative energy
  • Served in Arizona Senate 2003 to 2005
  • Served in Arizona House 2001 to 2003
  • Grew up in Tucson, Arizona
  • Married to US astronaut Mark Kelly
Members of her staff were among up to 12 other people who were also shot. Reports say one of her aides has died.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12143774
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Sad story...I've ben following it all evening.
I am interested though, how do you feel about it?

To simply post the details with interjecting any comment leads one to wonder...I mean this sincerly and without alterior motives what are your thoughts on these happenings?
 
Ron said:
Sad story...I've ben following it all evening.
I am interested though, how do you feel about it?
To simply post the details with interjecting any comment leads one to wonder...I mean this sincerly and without alterior motives what are your thoughts on these happenings?
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Oh god, whhhy? Why did you ask?!
 
Ron said:
Sad story...I've ben following it all evening.
I am interested though, how do you feel about it?

To simply post the details with interjecting any comment leads one to wonder...I mean this sincerly and without alterior motives what are your thoughts on these happenings?
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Oh this is directed to me.....ah wtf dude seriously there not enough hyperlite/arab bashing going on in the garage you must spill it over here to general chit chat......
Its called letting people know like information its not some terrorist conspiracy just news of of poor woman shot in the head by some nutjob army recruit wanna be that hates the bible.
Sorry I too was following another thread all day you know this.
It is a member of our government if I post anything it gets moved (political) so I post fact in general chit chat that way the rest of NC4x4 can take part with out it becoming a I hate Hyperlite political issue. Its already in the garage with fellow members trying to draw parallels with me and this sicko.that is so sad and ignorent based solely on my sig language.

Remember the rules Ron. Keep this open in general chit chat and BTW I am waiting on the whole story remember it happened yesterday.
 
Hyperlite said:
Its already in the garage with fellow members trying to draw parallels with me and this sicko.that is so sad and ignorent based solely on my sig language.
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I believe that is actually spelled Ignorant,Honor Roll.
I think the sadder thing about this story is poor little Christina Greene.She had just barely turned 9 and was shot dead at this grocery.I find it unbelievable that both sides are scrambling to spin this one way or another.The right pinning him as a Wacko Leftist and the Left Saying he was a Tea Party Member.Who cares,What really matters is actions like this are unacceptable and in the end a little girl,basically the same age as my little Girl,Died because of some total Whack Job's Imaginary Grief with the Government.I would think this should be a time to honor the fallen as opposed to playing the blame game.I don't give a crap if he filled in the D or the R box on his voter ballot right now,I am sure the news channels will find time to argue that later.Here is an exert from the story I read online.

Greg Segalini, an uncle of Christina, the 9-year-old victim, told the Arizona Republic that a neighbor was going to the event and invited her along because she had just been elected to the student council and was interested in government.

Christina, who was born on Sept. 11, 2001, was involved in many activities, from ballet to baseball. She had just received her first Holy Communion at St. Odilia's Catholic Church on in Tucson, Catholic Diocese of Tucson officials told The Arizona Daily Star.

The suspect Loughner was described by a former classmate as a pot-smoking loner, and the Army said he tried to enlist in December 2008 but was rejected for reasons not disclosed.
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Macdaddy4738 said:
That dude wasnt misguided. Hell, no one could guide that loony anywhere but to his own grave either way. Guy is NUTS
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I was being sarcastic. I was waiting for the "it's the Tea Party’s" fault" stuff to start being broadcast. But this kid was very leftwing according to people who knew him. So the news will still try to twist this. This was just a sick individual who should be put down.
 
This is all cnn and other news sites have to talk about.. How many stories can you have on one tragedy? Thats all it is really is a tragedy.. This guy is a looney, his writings dont make sense and his thought process doesnt either.. He will probably be tried as a nutjob and get fed meds all day in a mental ward while tax payers pay for it. Americas best option would be the death penalty. Its plain and simple he is guilty so I dont even see why a trial would be neccessary..
 
Hyperlite said:
Oh this is directed to me.....ah wtf dude seriously there not enough hyperlite/arab bashing going on in the garage you must spill it over here to general chit chat......
Its called letting people know like information its not some terrorist conspiracy just news of of poor woman shot in the head by some nutjob army recruit wanna be that hates the bible.
Sorry I too was following another thread all day you know this.
It is a member of our government if I post anything it gets moved (political) so I post fact in general chit chat that way the rest of NC4x4 can take part with out it becoming a I hate Hyperlite political issue. Its already in the garage with fellow members trying to draw parallels with me and this sicko.that is so sad and ignorent based solely on my sig language.

Remember the rules Ron. Keep this open in general chit chat and BTW I am waiting on the whole story remember it happened yesterday.
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I did not ask for a political view, sorry if you took it that way.
And I really am not trying to argue or bait you, I am trying to gather information for myself.

I asked, "Hyperlite how do these happenings make YOU feel."

That is NOT a political conversation, that is a personal question....
 
Ron said:
I did not ask for a political view, sorry if you took it that way.
And I really am not trying to argue or bait you, I am trying to gather information for myself.

I asked, "Hyperlite how do these happenings make YOU feel."

That is NOT a political conversation, that is a personal question....
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How does it make me feel? Like we are f-ed up especially when peeps like you and or orginizations you represent use this to accuse others of being the same as this f bag. Please take off you white hood and chill out here and other places.

YOUR WHOLE GOAL IS TO GET ME BANNED CAUSE YOU DONT UNDERSTAND ME.

BACK TO TOPIC......YOU DONT SEE ME ASKIN YOU HOW YOU FEEL DO YOU?

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"Ms Giffords was holding a "Congress on Your Corner" event, intended to give voters a chance to address her directly. She has done about 20 such events previously, her spokesman said."

That is awesome and what we need a chanel to speak to our elected leaders.

The hero is Patricia Maisch who attacked the shooter swatting the second magazine out of his hand. She is a brave woman, she is a real American.:usa:
 
Why did you post it then?

Posts are gonna be their thoughts and how they feel!

I "feel" bad about this! Praying for everyone! People do about anything these days!
 
Hyperlite said:
How does it make me feel? Like we are f-ed up especially when peeps like you and or orginizations you represent use this to accuse others of being the same as this f bag. Please take off you white hood and chill out here and other places.

YOUR WHOLE GOAL IS TO GET ME BANNED CAUSE YOU DONT UNDERSTAND ME.

BACK TO TOPIC......YOU DONT SEE ME ASKIN YOU HOW YOU FEEL DO YOU?
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- People like me and my organizations?
Not sure what this means

- Take off my white hood?
Would that be a reference to the KKK, the group that maimed and nearly killed my Great Uncle because he was a Catholic?

- I dont want you banned. I have spcificaly asked Shawn in person to not ban you. I want to learn from you. I want to learn from everyone I meet. But to learn from you I must understand you and your thought process. Thats why I asked how you feel about this, I am trying to see what makes you tick a bit a genuine honest interest. I dont learn from anyone regurgitating other's thoughts. I dont value a walking encyclopedia. I value respect rational thought whether it coincies with my value system or not. I can respect your opinion even if I dont agree with it. I cant respect it (ven if I agree with it) if you can not substantiate your justification.

- No you didn't ask me how I feel. But I didn't come here to a 4 wheel drive and offroad forum and post it either. I followed it, thought about it and prayed for the victims and the perpetrator but didnt post it here. You did. This isn't a news site and you aren't a reporter. So obviously you posted it to generate conversation, yet you offered no editorial, no opinion only a stating of fact. Which being of topic I thought was strange. I would expect to log on and see someone post post an OHV area story, or a new product story and offer no opinion. That is relvant on topic info and they are sharing for the good of the group. I dont generally see off topic, news stories postd without any commentary. So it made me curious so I asked a question. I asked how you feel about it. I am not sure. Are you sad for a wife and mother? Or for a 9 year old child? Or are you somehow happy and excited and hoping that this will show those no good "insert demographic here" for their terrible viws on "insert boiler plate issue here" Or in contrast are you ready to take up arms and persecute the criminal yourself. Are you preparing a vigil? Or a celebation in the streets? I just dont know.
I have no clue.
So thats why I asked.
But you chose to see that as me baiting you..I was not. I was merely trying to learn.
No aletrior motive.
 
You specifically accused me of being one who would do this on an anti-palestinian thread in the garage which I chose to disagree with.

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"The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous. This has not become the nice United States of America that most of us grew up in and I think it's time that we do the soul-searching."
-Clarence Dupnik Pima County Sheriff

Hopefully she will survive, the hard part is still to come.
She is in a medical induced coma and there are fears of swelling.
 
This is so sad, my thoughts and prayers go out to all the families affected.

I really hope this doesn't get turned into some big political thing. The guy was a nutjob. Didn't matter if she was Democrat, Republican, or Bull Moose Party. He had a hatred for government, not any particular version of it.
 
It's too late for that,they have rushed blame Beck,Palin and even Limbaugh.I am a regular listener to Beck,I have never heard him call for Violence.On the show this morning he is playing old clips where he was praising her as a brave congresswoman.In fact all I have ever heard from him was the opposite,That conservatives have to take a non violent understanding stance.
http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs...ution-after-ft-hood-now-race-blame-palin-afte
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ny-times-krugman-blames-shooting-on-gop-hate-mongers-beck-limbaugh/
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/kei...-calls-on-beck-to-apologize-for-his-rhetoric/
 
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“Sarah Palin has the crosshairs of a gun sight over our district and when people do that, they’ve gotta realize there are consequences to that action.” -gabrielle gifford

For some reason none of her youtube videos will play with sound on her interviews about Palin? Is it just my comp cause all other vids will play oh well here is a MSNBC interview with her on her being threatened by Palin

http://kateoplis.tumblr.com/post/2655554409/msnbc-talks-to-rep-gabrielle-gifford-about-the

Wasnt the Judge that was shot a republican interesting twist if it was political motivated?

8/10/9 someone drops a gun at her town hall meeting
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/10/gabrielle-giffords-town-h_n_255656.html

I think this is what the media is talking about. The others Beck etc are being cited in many news reports for their hateful rhetoric towards any opposition to the Tea Party.
 
One thing I hate about murderers besides the obvious is how they become the famous ones. Media and the future tends to forget about the victims only showing court cases and news feeds plastering the murderer face all over the place. This makes the perp stick in our heads and we are not even able to put an innocent face to the crimes.


http://www.scpr.org/news/2011/01/10/dodgers-scouts-daughter-killed-arizona-shooting-ra/
So here is a little bit about Christina Taylor Green.
The daughter of a Dodgers baseball scout was one of the people killed Saturday in Arizona. KPCC’s Shirley Jahad tells us more about 9-year-old Christina Taylor Green.
Her life was bracketed by two devastating events. Christina Taylor Green was born on September 11, 2001. She died in the shooting rampage outside the grocery store in Tucson this weekend.
As a baby, she was featured in a book called “Faces of Hope,” which documented a child from each state born on 9/11.
As a third grader, she had just been elected to the elementary school student council.
She wanted to learn about American civic life. Her interest prompted a neighbor to take her to the nearby supermarket to meet her congresswoman, Gabrielle Giffords, a five minute ride from home. That neighbor was also shot several times.
Christina was the only girl on her little league team. She came from a family of baseball lovers.
Her father John Green is a scout for the Dodgers. Her grandfather Dallas Green was a manager for the Phillies bringing Philadelphia to the World Series in 1980.
Dodgers owner Frank McCourt issued a statement saying the team "lost a member of the Dodgers family."

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From top left: Christina-Taylor Green, Dorothy Morris, Judge John Roll, Gabe Zimmerman, Dorwin Stoddard and Phyllis Schneck (AP)
 
Hyperlite said:
“Sarah Palin has the crosshairs of a gun sight over our district and when people do that, they’ve gotta realize there are consequences to that action.” -gabrielle gifford
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Found it here but dont know much bout this source: Examiner.com: Tea Party Nation on the defensive after Arizona shooting - National progressive politics | Examiner.com[/LEFT]
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I really don't want to hijack this thread and get into arguing Left Vs Right with you Hyper.I actually really agree with your last post and I would like for this thread to stay on topic about the victims and what a shame this tragedy is.I do want to remind you though that just two years ago the hateful awful rhetoric against,Bush,Cheney, McCain and Palin was far worse then anything I see today.I mean there were stickers and pins that said Kill Bush.Here is a really good article to about that.It comes from both sides.
http://michellemalkin.com/2011/01/1...mate-of-hate-an-illustrated-primer-2000-2010/
 
Hyperlite said:
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“Sarah Palin has the crosshairs of a gun sight over our district and when people do that, they’ve gotta realize there are consequences to that action.” -gabrielle gifford
For some reason none of her youtube videos will play with sound on her interviews about Palin? Is it just my comp cause all other vids will play oh well here is a MSNBC interview with her on her being threatened by Palin
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That's fucking disgusting.

I can't say it any better myself, so might as well quote:
To be clear, if you're using this event to criticize the "rhetoric" of Mrs. Palin or others with whom you disagree, then you're either: (a) asserting a connection between the "rhetoric" and the shooting, which based on evidence to date would be what we call a vicious lie; or (b) you're not, in which case you're just seizing on a tragedy to try to score unrelated political points, which is contemptible. Which is it?
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saf-t scissors said:
That's fucking disgusting.
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Agree!

This is one of those unfortunate ugly side-effects that come with our liberty. Gotta take the nasty with teh good, I suppose - but it still sucks either way.
 
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