Vick... opinions

What do you think about him?

  • Hate him

    Votes: 4 6.9%

  • Love him

    Votes: 2 3.4%

  • Will never pull for the Eagles again

    Votes: 2 3.4%

  • Will now pull for the Eagles

    Votes: 1 1.7%

  • What's all the fuss about

    Votes: 6 10.3%

  • Put him in the cage with one of the dogs he trained

    Votes: 24 41.4%

  • He served his time, let him be

    Votes: 25 43.1%
  • Total voters
    58
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What do you think about him?
 
my response

I voted'what's all the fuss about"

I have dogs. Lots of dogs. I think he should be kicked in the nuts by everyone that owns a dog but....He served his time.

If we kept everyone that committed some sort of offense from playing pro sports, there wouldn't be too many people out there. Not that I have the skill to do anything pro related, I would be knocked off the list due to a felony speeding ticket from 23 years ago...:popcorn:
 
Don't care about the Eagles, but would've dropped Panthers or Steelers if they picked him up.

Pete Rose bets on baseball games and is banned for life. This guy kills dogs for thrills and is ok once the feds are done with him.

He did his time and is a free man. BUT... A pro-player is a public face to a team and a city. They might as well hire Bernie Madoff to do their accounting. Or Wenzel for their customer service department.

I'd vote for:
The Eagles must REALLY suck to be that hard up.

J
 
Good thing I already hated the Eagles. (I'm a Giants fan)

And I also would have said F the Panthers if they signed him.
 
hobie said:
Don't care about the Eagles, but would've dropped Panthers or Steelers if they picked him up.

Pete Rose bets on baseball games and is banned for life. This guy kills dogs for thrills and is ok once the feds are done with him.

He did his time and is a free man. BUT... A pro-player is a public face to a team and a city. They might as well hire Bernie Madoff to do their accounting. Or Wenzel for their customer service department.

I'd vote for:
The Eagles must REALLY suck to be that hard up.

J
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Actually I agree with all of this except the Steelers part. (hate 'em anyway)
 
Don't condone what he did, think it was bad wrong and I agree with the punishment. The punishment is over! I'm about second chances and rehabilitation. I don't think he should be villianized by the general populace the way he is. He did the crime, he paid the time, he deserves a fresh start if he wants it! Even old, bad dogs can get a second chance with an understanding and loving owner!
 
I was a "bad dog" at one time and without my second chance who knows what might have happened. This guy was a product of his environment, what he was doing was viewed as "normal" or even celebrated in his community of friends. It took the law to step in and show him otherwise, he paid his price,seems remorseful, let him play on a lifetime probationary term. One screw up and he's out of the NFL no questions asked, but until then, let it be water under the bridge.
 
Couldn't care less where he goes. I would be a little disappointed in the Rooney's hiring him in Pittsburgh but Tomlin probably had a say in that one since he has a more low key, team oriented approach to things and has never put emphasis on one player or the other. The Panthers just don't need any more bad press or attention. They just need to get their stuff together and win. Good players, good coaches, seems like no team chemistry.
 
too be fair....i think i remember reading that what he did wasnt even a crime in the state he lived in. anyone confirm that?

if he has served his sentance then let the man live his life.
 
i hate what he did but...he served his time so let him be is my view....Im a big eagles fan...Dont really see where we need him but hey im always glad to see them get someone with talent.
 
Ya know I love my dogs and own pit bulls. I would never fight them and I believe this man did pay his debt to society. What I can't stand is that all these people act like he is the only person out there that has done this or still does it. There are tons of dog fighting rings out there in every city, my question is why do all these other people not get the same punishment as he did? I honestly think there would not have been a bust at all if Vick wasn't Vick the Pro football player and he was just another thug on the street or drug dealer. I watch the show on animal planet and those people convicted of dog fighting that they rescue the dogs and all get very little punishment compared to what this man has gone through. Just my 2 cents
 
I wish the Panthers would have picked him up. I love my dogs but he has paid his time and I hope he does well with his 2nd chance. I may even go get a Vick Philly Jersey and wear it around town just to piss off all those PETA f*ckers.
 
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WCURoverd90 said:
I wish the Panthers would have picked him up. I love my dogs but he has paid his time and I hope he does well with his 2nd chance. I may even go get a Vick Philly Jersey and wear it around town just to piss off all those PETA f*ckers.
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I'd wear it too!! Not the same shirt. I'd get my own....
 
scoutdawg said:
There are tons of dog fighting rings out there in every city, my question is why do all these other people not get the same punishment as he did?
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like i said earlier...i dont think it is illegal everwhere.

whats the difference between setting two pitbulls against each other and setting a dog out to hunt a boar.

either way...chances are its gonna end ugly for the dog.

and keep in mind...not every dog dies or gets seriously hurt in a dog fight. A lot of fights are stopped as soon as the winner is apparent. sometimes that means one dog backing down or one dog gaining a dominant position.

I am not defending dog fighting...just wanting everyone to realize that most things arent as bad as the media wants us to believe.

Just look at all those crazy rednecks out there tearin up our national forest....can you believe its legal for people to go out and do that! those rednecks are horrible people.
 
Doesn't change anything, he still will never be an elite quarterback. He can't throw for shit.
 
your kids shouldnt be looking at athletes as heros. if thats who they see as heros there may have been a lapse in parenting.

I mean really, is an athlete really something to aspire to be? does being an athlete make you a better person? does it make you more intellegent?

no offense to anyone on the board as i know this is going to rub many people the wrong way....

but i dont see how you can sit on the couch all the time and watch sports. the bad thing is....your kids see you doing this. they see you "worshiping" these athletes. they hear you talk about them to your friends. they hear you looking up to them.

this is why we as a nation are getting dumber. too many people teaching their kids about sports, no one teaching them science and history. No one showing them how the american political system works. No one taking their kids to church. This is leading to the decline of society. You wonder why we have a president who has no idea how to fix america. He himsef was a product of this failure and his election is the culmination of americas parents failing their children.

I agree, there were men in "the good ol days" who played sports and may have been something to admire. those days are gone though. Sports have become and escape plan from the bad neighborhoods (white, black, brown and yellow).

Don't get me wrong, if i had the body i would still be playing football today but i refuse to sit at the electronic alter and worship these guys.


that being said....who cares what it looks like to the kids that Vick isnt doing life in prison.
 
Did the crime and did his time. Actually worse, because of all the money he lost. Thats doing the time plus about 30 million. I think he's paid up.

Vicks on field entertainment value, just went up. Folks will watch to see him fail..or produce. He is a running mofo.Electric even.
 
He screwed up. He got caught. he did the time(and fines) levied against him. He should be done. Now it's time to drop it. IMHO the media that keeps this brought up are still punishing him. This should be against the law. It's like he is getting trials everyday, and continued punishment for something he has already paid for. Probation, let the professionals keep an eye on him, that's part of the deal, everyone else needs to find something else to do.
IF he is smart he should capitalize on this. Show the world what kinda athlete he is. Invest the money he makes in successful business ventures, and do some good with it too by supporting some do good operations.
I think if he keeps his nose clean, he can regain his respect. I think it would be a testament to any fan or would be fan to see him overcome his mistake and turn his life around.
Leave him be.
 
BigRedB2 said:
your kids shouldnt be looking at athletes as heros. if thats who they see as heros there may have been a lapse in parenting.
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You are so off base and full of :poop: it is insane. For years athletes have been ones to motivate young children to achieve greatness and follow in their footsteps. Pat Tillman is the first one that comes to mind. The man was so grounded in his belief's that he left a multi million dollar contract in Arizona to serve his country in the US Army. He was a football player first. That is an athlete and a hero.

BigRedB2 said:
I mean really, is an athlete really something to aspire to be? does being an athlete make you a better person?
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Yes an athlete is something to aspire to be. It teaches dedication, hard work and team work. None of these men and women who are playing any level of sports walked their way into it easily. There were hours in a gym, classroom and playing their sport to get where they are now. All of the above improves your character and work ethic. Yes some get distracted by the bright lights and dollars but the vast majority are more of a benefit to society than the chubby fatass who sits around eating moon pies, playing xbox and sitting at the computer all day that has no social skills at all.


BigRedB2 said:
but i dont see how you can sit on the couch all the time and watch sports. the bad thing is....your kids see you doing this. they see you "worshiping" these athletes. they hear you talk about them to your friends. they hear you looking up to them.
this is why we as a nation are getting dumber. too many people teaching their kids about sports, no one teaching them science and history. No one showing them how the american political system works. No one taking their kids to church. This is leading to the decline of society. You wonder why we have a president who has no idea how to fix america. He himsef was a product of this failure and his election is the culmination of americas parents failing their children. I agree, there were men in "the good ol days" who played sports and may have been something to admire. those days are gone though. Sports have become and escape plan from the bad neighborhoods (white, black, brown and yellow).
Don't get me wrong, if i had the body i would still be playing football today but i refuse to sit at the electronic alter and worship these guys.
that being said....who cares what it looks like to the kids that Vick isnt doing life in prison.
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There are still good men out there who are hero's and doing more of a benefit to society. Everyone needs their escape plan...and numerous professional athletes who have learned to better themselves thanks to their sport can say they are who they are because of learning life lessons through their outlet and sport. No one is worshiping these guys, they admire the good ones for who they are and what they do. The kids and parents that look up to the bad ones and cannot differentiate between good and bad are our problem. Not athletes as a whole or parents and kids as a whole.
 
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