Vick... opinions

What do you think about him?

  • Hate him

    Votes: 4 6.9%
  • Love him

    Votes: 2 3.4%
  • Will never pull for the Eagles again

    Votes: 2 3.4%
  • Will now pull for the Eagles

    Votes: 1 1.7%
  • What's all the fuss about

    Votes: 6 10.3%
  • Put him in the cage with one of the dogs he trained

    Votes: 24 41.4%
  • He served his time, let him be

    Votes: 25 43.1%

  • Total voters
    58
I was a "bad dog" at one time and without my second chance who knows what might have happened. This guy was a product of his environment, what he was doing was viewed as "normal" or even celebrated in his community of friends. It took the law to step in and show him otherwise, he paid his price,seems remorseful, let him play on a lifetime probationary term. One screw up and he's out of the NFL no questions asked, but until then, let it be water under the bridge.

Agree 100%

He screwed up. He got caught. he did the time(and fines) levied against him. He should be done. Now it's time to drop it. IMHO the media that keeps this brought up are still punishing him. This should be against the law. It's like he is getting trials everyday, and continued punishment for something he has already paid for. Probation, let the professionals keep an eye on him, that's part of the deal, everyone else needs to find something else to do.
IF he is smart he should capitalize on this. Show the world what kinda athlete he is. Invest the money he makes in successful business ventures, and do some good with it too by supporting some do good operations.
I think if he keeps his nose clean, he can regain his respect. I think it would be a testament to any fan or would be fan to see him overcome his mistake and turn his life around.
Leave him be.

Yep


You are so off base and full of :poop: it is insane. For years athletes have been ones to motivate young children to achieve greatness and follow in their footsteps. Pat Tillman is the first one that comes to mind. The man was so grounded in his belief's that he left a multi million dollar contract in Arizona to serve his country in the US Army. He was a football player first. That is an athlete and a hero.

Couldnt disagree more
Yes but Tillman is a hero because of his service and willingness to sacrifice millions, NOT BECAUSE OF HIS ATHLETIC PROWESS

Yes an athlete is something to aspire to be. It teaches dedication, hard work and team work. None of these men and women who are playing any level of sports walked their way into it easily. There were hours in a gym, classroom and playing their sport to get where they are now. All of the above improves your character and work ethic.

We will have to agree to disagree here. I played with a bunch of guys in college (several of which went on to long pro careers) who worked far less than many others (myself included). The truth is natural ability and body composition plays a much larger role than most outside the pros want to admit. Now when you get natural ability paired with an extreme work ethic you get superstars.

Yes some get distracted by the bright lights and dollars but the vast majority are more of a benefit to society than the chubby fatass who sits around eating moon pies, playing xbox and sitting at the computer all day that has no social skills at all.

Why does it have to be one or the other. What about the hard working dedicated plumbers, electricians, mechanics, salesmen, etc.

They are every much a hero as the average pro athlete if not more so.

There are still good men out there who are hero's and doing more of a benefit to society. Everyone needs their escape plan...and numerous professional athletes who have learned to better themselves thanks to their sport can say they are who they are because of learning life lessons through their outlet and sport. No one is worshiping these guys, they admire the good ones for who they are and what they do. The kids and parents that look up to the bad ones and cannot differentiate between good and bad are our problem. Not athletes as a whole or parents and kids as a whole.


It has been unpopular for 20 years, but Charles Barkley was right, he was not a role model, he was a basketball player.

I used football to get me out of trash, to get a college education and make something of my life. I admired athletes as much as anyone and I follow sports today to an insane level, however my role model or hero growing up was and always will be my Dad. He met my mother when I was 2 and he was 17. He married her and took m as his own. he showed me how to be a man through his teachings and his mistakes, but he never left me. Even though he divorced my mother when I was very young he always was there for me and treated me as his son. When my first was born, I walked into the waiting room past my mother and hugged him and said thanks.

HE WAS, IS and ALWAYS will be my role model. When I heard my son recently tell one of his friends I was his hero, I will admit I walked into another room by myself and cried like a baby.

So yeah I will disagree strongly with athletes as role models.

now Vick has a CHANCE to be a role model to inner city kids BECAUSE of his mistakes. I hope he seizes the opportunity to do just that.
 
like i said earlier...i dont think it is illegal everwhere.
whats the difference between setting two pitbulls against each other and setting a dog out to hunt a boar.
either way...chances are its gonna end ugly for the dog.
and keep in mind...not every dog dies or gets seriously hurt in a dog fight. A lot of fights are stopped as soon as the winner is apparent. sometimes that means one dog backing down or one dog gaining a dominant position.
I am not defending dog fighting...just wanting everyone to realize that most things arent as bad as the media wants us to believe.
Just look at all those crazy rednecks out there tearin up our national forest....can you believe its legal for people to go out and do that! those rednecks are horrible people.
i agree we beat the shit out of each other like ufc and stuff...
 
after i made my rant about "worshipping" athletes, i saw a commercial on HBO that refered to their sports analysts as "oracles" and talked about worshipping the atheletes.

thats total bullshit.

as mentioned above Pat Tilman is a hero because he gave up a lucritive job to give his life for his country. i didnt care about or even know who he was until i read where he joined the military.

Infact, dont teach your kids to look up to atheletes. introduce them to a soldier. show them a real hero. Let the military be an exit from the ghetto. Talk about bettering yourself.

There are so many better alternatives than sports to teach your kids. And if your relying on a coach to teach you kids these things you are a lazy parent. You should be the one the look up to and learn from

I dont watch sports. I didnt need them growing up. I had my dad. Sure i played football, and he taught me how to play. But he didnt teach me to depend on sports to learn things like character and hard work. I learned that from him.

fathers today just throw their kids in to sports and hope the coaches do a good job of teaching their kids these things.

Do i sound insane? maybe but I dont waste my time or money on sports. Will i allow a child of mine to play sports...sure. I have no problem with that, but i hope that by the time that comes they will have already learned the meaning of hard work and dedication.
 
word here in philly is that Kevin Kolb messed himself up real good. So in that view philly did themselves good with the addition of a second string quarterback like vick. Also he opens up the playbook a little for the eagles.

I bleed green as does my wife so being an Eagles fan is something were not giving up anytime soon. Although I wouldnt mind if Andy Reid went somewhere else.
 
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