What do you think?

[UNCC-CRAWLER]

What you are proposing is in no way a kin to the civil rights movement. it is not a violation of your constitutional rights.
The constitution was set up to restrict the gov'ts ability to descriminate, not a privately owned company. And what you are talking about does not relate to race, religion, physical capabilites, or political affiliation.

Again you are way wrong it is kin a distance Cousin but still kin ( note the extreme part). A group of people that don't want another group of people to be around because of the way other group rides the snow

its actually exactly like the owners of avalance ranch saying you cant run boggers on their trails anymore. How would that violate a constitutional right? How is that descrimination.
Look, follow the rules, why do boarders have to be such a parasite? Stop being so selfish. arent there thousands of places to go? do you really need the 4 slopes?

That is a good rule because boggers will dig more than any other tire out there (I ran them back in my mud days) they will make an easy trail a hard trail if you get some jack@ss out there that doesn't repect the guy coming behind him. so this is not descrimination but envrioment protecting. if they said no jeeps only toyotas that would be descrimination

snowboarding doesn't destroy the trails but yeah some of the kids on them are jack@ss but what sport doesn't have that.

Poaching it is on par with the Tellico situation because some jack@sses when out there and when off the trail, left trash and ruin it for everyone that drives a Lifted 4x4. I know I would be more than will to go and try to wheel Tellico if they cloesed it (show them that we are not like that) and I hope their would be a line behind me

 

[Reid]

Discrimination involves treating someone less favourably because of their possession of an attribute (e.g., sex, age, race, religion, family status, national origin, military status, disability), compared with someone without that attribute in the same circumstances. Discrimination involves setting a condition or requirement which a smaller proportion of those with the attribute are able to comply with, without reasonable justification.

it is very easy for you to comply with the rules, dont snow board. it is absolutly in no way a violation of your constitutional rights. If there were legal precedent for such a claim dont the think Mr. Burton would have pursued that route instead?

There are no legal precedents that cite the possesion of one recreation over another. it's quite the opposite. The fly fishermen get unfair representation over us fourwheelers, yet we do not try to push the envelope on where we wheel. We fight the battle by petitioning and fighting in court.

Please do not tell me i am wrong again. You dont even know the definition descrimination. Just exactly what civil right do you feel is being infringed upon? There is only one correct answer, but i want you to think about it really hard, because the answer is a catch 22. By snowboarding where you are unwelcomed you may be guilty of the exact same thing you claim you are a victim of. So please.....lets here how you have been discrimintated against.

 

[southern4x4]

I never once said anything about a constitutional right. I think that is pushing it a bit far. Do I think it is dumb that we, yes I say we because I am a snowboarder, are not allowed in certain areas because we are stereotyped as drunk bums? yes. I hate it but I know it is a reaction to past events. Yes there are drunk snowboarders, yes some of them act like bums. Is it not the same for skiers though? You're d@mn right it is. What I enjoy about snowboarding is also a downfall for the sport. It has a more carefree attitude and yes does carry a sense of "rebellion" with it. It is also human nature for negative acts to be more influential and easier to recall. I am sure there are not a lot of people who will recall a time when a snowboarder helped a skier out or said yes ma'am or no sir. I do it all the time but I am sure the second that I do one thing wrong that person will only remember that.

Also just a note, discrimination is spelled with an I. There is no E in the entire word.

 

[Banned User]

snowboarding is better if you are gonna be in a half pipe or something like that, but give me some skis and i will jump further and ride faster than any boarder on the mountain. I like just cruisin, but i like clearing huge gaps on skis, and skis get you going faster.

 

[Banned User]

also, why do snowboarders feel the need to sit on the backsides of jumps? theres always some idiots out there who will sit right on the wrong side of hills, so you cant see them until you are about to cut their neck with your ski

 

[willness33]

It has a more carefree attitude and yes does carry a sense of "rebellion" with it.

Sorry, those days are long gone. The "care free" and "rebellion" went out the back door when it bacame an olympic sport. Riding is just as commercial as any other sport now. BTW, I've never felt rebellious when on a snowboard. Too many people doing it to actually stand out, unless you're doing inverts in the park.

also, why do snowboarders feel the need to sit on the backsides of jumps?

That's where they/we crash. It is the skiier/rider's responsibility to know what's in front of you. Remember, the person in front of you always has the right of way, regardless of how piss poor they are on the slopes.

I'm not defending either side of the skiier/boarder battle since I do both. I'm just stating my opinion.

 

[Reid]

I never once said anything about a constitutional right. I think that is pushing it a bit far. QUOTE]

Wow you are way wrong after watching the video I agree with burton they are breaking the bill of rights: discrimination.

^ he said something about a constitutional right. and he is wrong.

forgive me for not running spell check. i type quick when im mad. sometimes i mispell things.

doesnt matter. you will be tresspassing and i discourage you to condone it. Please to not post anything about tresspassing in anyway shape or form in the fourwheeling community. if you want to make a place for boarders how bout not infecting my reputation. I dont want someone who is against us wheeling to come here and see that some one condones tresspassing on a ski slope and assume we will tresspass on national forest for wheeling purposes.

I cant be the only person here that see's this as tresspassing?
if you had said the same thing about riding the power lines you'd be banned for 3 days.

 

[willness33]

I cant be the only person here that see's this as tresspassing?

Tresspassing? No. If you pay for a lift ticket, you have a right to be on the resort's property as long as you abide by their rules. If their rules state you can't even carry a board into the resort and you do, you should be thrown out. No tresspassing has occurred, you just broke their STATED rules.

Seriously, if anyone actually pulls this idiotic stunt off, it's just going to reinforce the ideals of the resort owners. Any chance of ever boarding at these places will be gone forever.

This whole hair brained idea is just dumb.

 

[southern4x4]

Sorry, those days are long gone. The "care free" and "rebellion" went out the back door when it bacame an olympic sport. Riding is just as commercial as any other sport now. BTW, I've never felt rebellious when on a snowboard. Too many people doing it to actually stand out, unless you're doing inverts in the park.

It is still marketed heavily as a rebellious thing. I just enjoy riding. I love the cold weather, I love the feel of the snow, I love pushing myself to be better. In all honesty, and this is going to sound a bit , but snowboarding is almost zen-like to me. It gives me a chance to clear my head of things and release a years worth of pent up tension and stress. The scenery is incredible and it is one of the few things that I can see results in a relatively short amount of time when I push myself. A day hiking a box or a rail in the park is just as satisfying to me when I can get the grind down smooth and make it look effortless, as is carving fresh lines in the powder of a tree run or The Burn at Breckenridge.

 

[Reid]

 

[southern4x4]