What's the ultimate 4x4 Crosser???

6BangBronk

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OK, now knowing what we know now being that there's a whole different breed of sport being born here with it's own unique conditions, what would you do to your rig to make it better for 4x4 Cross for next time? I'm thinking built more like a "Super Truck" than rock crawler / mud slinger. Watcha think?

HD Bump Stops; Lots of Shock absorbtion; Skid Plates; Horsepower; Attitude?
Watcha think?
:popcorn:
 
I would've benefitted greatly from windshield wipers that don't suck ass. Me and my spotter finished the race with our heads hanging out the sides.
 
RenegadeT said:
I would've benefitted greatly from windshield wipers that don't suck ass. Me and my spotter finished the race with our heads hanging out the sides.
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Judging by what I saw on most by the end, I'd go with good wipers and fluid,
or no windshield, and the pull off style goggles from dirt bike land.
(outside gets muddy, pull off a sheet)
If you can't see well, you're gonna mess up.

Also a complete disregard for your rig would be beneficial.
 
6BangBronk said:
OK, now knowing what we know now being that there's a whole different breed of sport being born here with it's own unique conditions...
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XRRA? UROCcross? King of Hammers?...it's not just being born...

I think the keys are:
-big horsepower (not neccesarily big motor...?)
-little car
-learn how to tune shocks
-learn how to drive
 
I didn't go, but from the vids, I am thinking something along the lines of a Baha type set up. BIG suspension travel and absorbs ion.
 
lol....google the word "herbst" i think that guy has it dialed in.
 
Something that doesn't break!!!!
 
yeah, i would imagine its nothing anything remotely stock. It seems the stock class did somewhat better, but im sure you guys havent tuned your suspensions for fast terrain handling.


My boss man wants to enter a rail buggy next time, i'm thinking i'd have to be my money on that entry.
 
I really don't think that big HP is all that important, unless you're running massive tires. At least in URE, there's nowhere your speed will get over about 25 mph.
Based on my experience, it's all about the suspension - you want it stiff (not hard) bw/ plenty of room for clearance, and good shocks. Too flexy and you'll be bouncing all over the place.

I just had 2" coil spacers and lift blocks on stock 19 y/o parts (cherokee). I didn't post the fastest time, but wasn't poking by any means... and the ride didn't jar too badly. Biggest problem (as evidenced by my crunched tranny line and self-clearanced rear fenders and chewed up tires) was not having enoug hroom for uptravel on landings.

FWIW teh clearance needed when jsacking up a wheel in your driveway is nothing like what you need coming off a 3' hump at speed. Technically the bumpstops (19 y/o ones) should have stopped it before teh control arm hit the top and crunched my lines. Guess gravity had its own plans, lol.

IMO, at least w/ thsi course, it's only at MOST 50% in teh vehicle. The rest is in driving ability... and concern for the vehicle. Lets face it, based on te hstats thus far, the best predictor of timing/success is not driving the vehicle home.
 
Wow that is knarley! I bet the price tag is knarley as well!!
 
Im betting a pro trophy 4wd truck (~70k) would own the field
 
I was on a fast part of the corse... a lack of sway bars slowed people down in the curves because they would get squirley leaning from side to side. a few rigs came around the curves on 3 wheels. oh and it seems that lockers slowed people down in the sharp curves people w/o lockers went around check point 3 w/o any problems and people w/ lockers seemed to have make it a 3 point turn... and that's all i got to say about that jenny
 
RatLabGuy said:
I really don't think that big HP is all that important, unless you're running massive tires. At least in URE, there's nowhere your speed will get over about 25 mph.
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Disagree...rather have way to much than not enough. Gotta know when to use it though...
2 rigs exactly the same together...same driver even...one with the most HP's is gonna win. That's assuming they both stay together...
Even if you only go 15 mph over the jump in both rigs...you can still get from jump A to jump B faster than the other guy...which is where alot of time is saved...

RatLabGuy said:
IMO, at least w/ thsi course, it's only at MOST 50% in teh vehicle. The rest is in driving ability... and concern for the vehicle.
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We have a winner.
I'd give it more than that...70-30...driver.


SkyHiK5 said:
Im betting a pro trophy 4wd truck (~70k) would own the field
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No way...put a transfercase in with any amount of low gearing and those front shafts are gone...last I checked even the Herbst trucks were still running 936 (or whatever number) VW type CV's up front...those would snap on the first throttle blip even if geared by 2...
 
I bet a 3/4 or 1 ton stock chassis of any breed stripped and caged would stand a chance at being the ultimate? With windshield and wipers remaining of course. :flipoff2: But regardless, I'd say 85% or better of the Modifides that competed in this event were modified to take on a slower approach to the course. I think it's obvious to say that a whole different setup would be better for the modifide class than what was entered by looking at the numbers.

Not too many rocks in Baja? Not too many jumps and straights in rock crawling comps? I feel this is definately a breed of it's own regardless of all the comparables mentioned...

The brain's churning for the next event though! :wheel:
 
Gotcha! Looks like a crawler setup to me besides heavier suspensions and more juice!

I guess it's safe to say it's a new breed of event within a 2,000 mile radius then? If not more! New breed of East Coast wheeling....
 
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