Why does suicide have to be the answer?

UTfball68 said:
I have walked in his shoes, personal mentor of mine...he lived 200yds on the other side of the woods behind my house, did several family summer vacations with him, I was the best man at his son Tim's wedding, played 2 years of varsity football with his son Chris and our daughters play together as recently as this Sunday in the church play room. He was recently divorced, sons were defending mom, he was having a particularly bad go of it, I had just finished mowing his yard...he asked if I wanted to do dinner with him, I blew him off to get shit faced with a buddy and find some strange. Get a call less than 24hrs later from Tim telling me his dad headed to TN shortly after I left his house to jump off a bridge.

David Anthony Cook's Obituary on Salisbury Post

As I mentioned I have a brother I have to worry about daily...still feel the same way. Do it, don't do it...death is inevitable. As a God fearing man, I wouldn't...but I'm not going to shed a tear over someone that does. Don't confuse my stance on suicide as a lack of empathy for the situation. The thread title is 'why does suicide have to be an answer'...not 'i'm grieving and help me get through this tough time'.
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Its pretty clear that he is having a hard time dealing with this. Death is inevitable, but suicide is not a good way to go. Sure, your pain on earth ends (though this line of thought disregards the pain one will endure in Hell if they aint right with God), but it only transfers the pain to those you love, it doesnt end it. Its pretty damn heartless to come on here posting the crap you did. Your stance clearly shows a lack f empathy. There is no confusion on that matter. My only confusion is how someone who has their heart right with God can be so lacking of empathy.
 
UTfball68 said:
I have walked in the OP's shoes, personal mentor of mine...he lived 200yds on the other side of the woods behind my house, did several family summer vacations with him, I was the best man at his son Tim's wedding, played 2 years of varsity football with his son Chris and our daughters play together as recently as this Sunday in the church play room. He was recently divorced, sons were defending mom, he was having a particularly bad go of it, I had just finished mowing his yard...he asked if I wanted to do dinner with him, I blew him off to get shit faced with a buddy and find some strange. Get a call less than 24hrs later from Tim telling me his dad headed to TN shortly after I left his house to jump off a bridge. I do

David Anthony Cook's Obituary on Salisbury Post

As I mentioned I have a brother I have to worry about daily...still feel the same way. Do it, don't do it...death is inevitable. As a God fearing man, I wouldn't...but I'm not going to shed a tear over someone that does. Don't confuse my stance on suicide as a lack of empathy for the situation. The thread title is 'why does suicide have to be an answer'...not 'i'm grieving and help me get through this tough time'.
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When I previously mentioned walking in the mans shoes, I didnt intend to allude to the original poster of this thread......

I can only hope your younger brother , although obviously in need of help, can see his older brother for what he truly is.
 
junkxj said:
I can only hope your younger brother , although obviously in need of help, can see his older brother for what he truly is.
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Thanks...and he absolutely does, a successful man, highly active in his church, willing to say what he believes, regardless of what others think. Oh and the guy that pulled the gun from his head in the middle of the family room in front of his parents.
 
UTfball68 said:
I'm sure I'm in the extreeeeeeeeeeeeeeme minority here, but my youngest brother has been a suicide risk twice. My advice both times is to fucking do it and get it over with or nut up and be a productive member of society. Some times, breaking up the pity party works. Life isn't that bad. People die all the time for any number of reasons. Cleanse the gene pool and move on. Sorry, I'm not going to boohoo over someone that quits or puts everyone else through the emotional turmoil of 'is he or isn't he'. Any time someone dies, it's sad and someone will miss them. Like they say with cheating and quitting, once it becomes an option, it will always be an option.
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UTfball68 said:
Thanks...and he absolutely does, a successful man, highly active in his church, willing to say what he believes, regardless of what others think. Oh and the guy that pulled the gun from his head in the middle of the family room in front of his parents.
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Seems I'm missing something here....
 
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I do offer @Cherokeekid88 my sincere apologies for derailing this thread.

I can only offer my thoughts of keeping another person from going through what I can only imagine what you are feeling, as a reason for what I have said.

Again, my apologies.
 
junkxj said:
Seems I'm missing something here....
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I wasn’t going to write a detailed explanation of how it went down. I wasn’t goading him to shoot himself in front of everybody at a family event. But you’re damn skippy, any time he threatened, or advice after the fact, just reminded him to not get anything on mom’s carpet. But like I said, you guys seem to be confusing an opinion of suicide for a lack of empathy for any one that dies. Death is sad, mmmkay, I thought that was a given, but I’m not going to boohoo over someone that made a conscious decision to kill themselves.
 
@UTfball68 it sounds like he is one of those that any time something doesn't go his way he threatens to end himself to draw a pity party. If that's the case I understand how that would get old. Someone that threatens to do it in front of their whole family seems to be looking for attention. I am also going to bet he gets plenty of attention, he just doesn't think it's enough.
 
UTfball68 said:
I wasn’t going to write a detailed explanation of how it went down. I wasn’t goading him to shoot himself in front of everybody at a family event. But you’re damn skippy, any time he threatened, or advice after the fact, just reminded him to not get anything on mom’s carpet. But like I said, you guys seem to be confusing an opinion of suicide for a lack of empathy for any one that dies. Death is sad, mmmkay, I thought that was a given, but I’m not going to boohoo over someone that made a conscious decision to kill themselves.
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Personally, I don't take offense to what you posted. Its a little different yes, but I understand that if you have someone for years always saying that they are going to off themselves time after time and the family having to live through the anxiety of it actually happening, I can see how that would be physically and mentally draining.

My childhood best friend hung himself about 12 years ago. Got into drugs, dropped out of school, didn't have a job. Went to rehab, came and visited me at work 3 months after he had gotten out of rehab. Seemed different, but better than he was last time I saw him a year prior. 2 weeks later, my mom calls me to tell me that he had hung himself in his bedroom. First person that I had ever known that took their own life. In his situation he felt that without drugs, he had nothing to live for at this point. No job, no money, parents were divorced, all his "friends" were druggies, just felt like there was nowhere else to go.

That sucked and it stuck with me for a long time. I always felt like had I kept in touch with him more, maybe our friendship would have kept him off the path he was on.
 
As someone who is tired of burying people that are younger than me, i say this.
I don't have anything useful to add to this thread.
I've lost 3 friends to suicide alone in the last 8 years.
And it sucks. As an old fucker, i gave up asking "why?"
Yet it still sucks. I miss my deceased friends.
'Dre is done on this subject.
 
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