Windrock accident

Sad but if you go over a 100' cliff are you maybe going too fast? Too Soon?
 
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ghost said:
Sad but if you go over a 100' liff are you maybe going too fast? Too Soon?
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It takes 30 minutes to go 100 yards on the technical portion of Walden's Ridge, so speed isn't necessarily an issue...
If you roll off it, it's easily hundreds of feet until you start hitting trees.
 
Jody Treadway said:
It takes 30 minutes to go 100 yards on the technical portion of Walden's Ridge, so speed isn't necessarily an issue...
If you roll off it, it's easily hundreds of feet until you start hitting trees.
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I didn't see anything saying it was there but if that would make sense..
 
I think it's interesting that they never give details of the accident such as alcohol was involved or if the people were wearing seat belts.
 
I know its natural to start making assumptions but since the story is lacking a lot of details, maybe it would be better to just say how awful of a tragedy it is that three people lost their lives and a 4th life is still hanging in the balance. Once more details come out, then the armchair quarter backing would be more appropriate. Just my two cents, and its probably not worth that.
 
My condolences to the family for certain and also my assumption is there will be a Lawsuit coming in 3...2...1.
 
Jody Treadway said:
I'm making the point that speed and off road accidents don't have to go hand in hand.
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Very true statement, we have all seen many a roll over on the trails that have been so slow you would have thought they were in slow motion. All it would take is rolling over slowly too far and the vehicle slipping off the edge and there you go. Not sure if this is what happened but since we dont know, we dont know it didnt happen like this either.
 
GubNi said:
I think it's interesting that they never give details of the accident such as alcohol was involved or if the people were wearing seat belts.
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1- Respect for the family and such...I.E (un)common human decency
2- As a newspaper writer if your article gets cited in a court case you get subpeonad to testify. That's unpaid for a dude making $30k/yr. They learn to state 'nothing but the facts' for a reason
3- It was 4 dudes in a 2 row SXS...that fell 100' into tree tops. Do you really think a seat belt made any impact? Would you want to be retained inside that shell?
4- I hope I never get to the point in my soul where the loss of a fellow hobbiest, my first repsonse is "what did that dude do wrong?"...my first thought was how awful for a lady to lose her husband and son my heart hurts for her.
 
Ron said:
I hope I never get to the point in my soul where the loss of a fellow hobbiest, my first repsonse is "what did that dude do wrong?"...my first thought was how awful for a lady to lose her husband and son my heart hurts for her.
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This times 100!
 
It’s a damn tragedy for certain, and I couldn’t imagine being there or even receiving a phone call that a loved one had passed away tragically on what should have been a great weekend away. I know not only their family grieves, but also their community. Looks like a well loved bunch.

One part that we should glean from this is that this kind of thing happens in an instant. I’ve rode motorcycles, flew planes, raced about everything with wheels, and one thing I know is that death will sneak up on your ass fast. Seatbelt, no seatbelt, fast/slow... Biggest thing I can recommend in over 20 years of Fire-Rescue, and as a paramedic is wear a damn helmet. I’ve seen chest traumas that were horrendous, but it’s almost always the head trauma that does ya in. Hell I had one die a week or so ago, that lost his footing sitting at a stoplight on a bicycle, struck his head on the pavement and now he’s done for. I’ve also seen people knock themselves slap out on a B-pillar in their rock buggy. I ain’t mother henning no man, your life your choice. Just check yourself before you wreck yourself.
 
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I apologize if my above post came off as condescending or preachy..it wasn't my intent.
 
I was part of a trail rescue at Tellico back in 2004. The injured lady had rolled an ATV end over end near the top of Upper 2. I had stopped at the top to investigate a squeaking ujoint and when I turned off my Jeep, I could hear her faint cries for help.
One of our group hauled ass toward town until cell reception was available. I stayed with her and attempted to comfort her as best I could. It was obvious her hip and one leg was shattered. When the first responders arrives on scene, they asked me and another tall friend to help. We were tasked with holding the downhill end of the backboard (whatever itis actually called) over our heads in order to keep it level as we carried her up the trail. Every step we took caused her to scream in pain.
We finally got her out to an awaiting ambulance that took her to a helicopter that took her to UT Medical Center. She died that evening of her injuries. Broken hip, broken femur, punctured lung(s) and pretty massive internal bleeding. It was a very sobering tow home that trip.

That experience made the dangers of our sport real.
 
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Ron said:
I apologize if my above post came off as condescending or preachy..it wasn't my intent.
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It's ok, we know you're a condescending elitist ass :D It's one of your (only redeeming) best qualities :smokin:

J/K


Ron said:
4- I hope I never get to the point in my soul where the loss of a fellow hobbiest, my first repsonse is "what did that dude do wrong?"...my first thought was how awful for a lady to lose her husband and son my heart hurts for her.
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Because that's the way YOU are wired. What many fail to acknowledge (nor ever give ANY kind of grace for) is that there are others who are NOT wired that way. Are they wrong? Are they callous assholes? According to some; anyone who thinks differently than they do is just wrong, stupid, or can't possibly know as much as THEY do. That's narrow minded, narcissistic, and egotistical. It's also NOT you, Ron. You've got a pretty good grip on reality, and you're self aware enough to know that someone can look at the same situation with a different perspective and not be "wrong". I think I appreciate that most about your personality.

While my first instinct IS actually "OMG how horrible for the family" it is QUICKLY followed by my curiosity of "How-Why-What" caused this chain of events. I want to understand. I want to know the mechanics of it all. Was alcohol involved? Was speed a factor? Was there a failure? Not so I can sit in judgement of the driver, but more so I can understand and have closure. Why would I need closure for something like that? Most people want a sense of finality when it comes to a death. Even one of a stranger that has absolutely no connection to you. As humans with feelings, we need a way to close that brief chapter (well, most of us..the ones who actually FEEL something to begin with :rolleyes:)
Some folks aren't quite as in touch with those feelings enough to know what they are. Others, are more concerned with minding their own business and can't understand why people are poking their noses in where they weren't invited. None of those folks are technically wrong, but they don't see things from the others perspective.

TLDR version: It's not wrong to want to know what happened
 
CasterTroy said:
TLDR version: It's not wrong to want to know what happened
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I totally agree that it is not wrong to want to know what happened, I would love to know what happened myself to see if perhaps it can be a learning moment and something to look out for. That being said, I will say its wrong to go ahead and assume there was some wrong doing without anything being said about that in the story. I think the assumption was made by one poster that they were going too fast, although no mention of speed was mentioned in the story. Don't get me wrong, once the cause is determined and shared with the public, judgement by the court of public opinion is fine at that point cause at least it would be based on information instead of assumptions.
 
superman27344 said:
I will say its wrong to go ahead and assume there was some wrong doing without anything being said about that in the story.
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Yeah, I wasn't putting you on blast or anything Lou :cool:

McCracken said:
When I hear SxS the first thing I think of is speed and dumbassery

and Florida Georgia line
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But.....THIS 100% (while also trying not to disrespect the deceased)
 
While also trying not to disrespect the deceased... I thought it was bad timing that this popped up on my feed
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Jody Treadway said:
WR was just a for instance. Not saying speed didn't contribute, as none of us know. I'm making the point that speed and off road accidents don't have to go hand in hand.
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Very true.... But see below.....

McCracken said:
When I hear SxS the first thing I think of is speed and dumbassery

and Florida Georgia line
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