Working for Tips

[83oldyoda4x4]

By the way - the answer to why the gratiyuity rate keeps increasing, is because the value of a dollar decreases, te hcost of living increaees, but the $2.15 and even the minimum wage has not changed.

Has the cost of the eating out not increased with the value of a dollar decreasing? 10 years ago 30 dollar meal 20% tip equals 6 bucks. Now that same meal is 50 so the tip would be 10. Thats the way i see it anyways, I have also started tipping take out since covid.

 

[Loganwayne]

The cost of living point comes up. But if the cost of the meal is increasing at the inflation rate (and it is), the percentage of tip tied to the cost of the meal increases at the rate of inflation.

We have this vision of starving waitresses/waiters. But the reality is that service sector employees can earn more in tips for bringing appitizers and your drinks than a trained phlebotomist or Medical Technician. To me, that is giving a false incentive. Waiting tables should be something you do to get a technical skills. Not something you do in the long term because of the amount you bring in.

I know a few girls that went to school with my girlfriend to be in the dental field that quit working in the field and went back to being waitresses and make more money in 3 days then they would working at a dentist office


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[UTfball68]

The cost of living point comes up. But if the cost of the meal is increasing at the inflation rate (and it is), the percentage of tip tied to the cost of the meal increases at the rate of inflation.

We have this vision of starving waitresses/waiters. But the reality is that service sector employees can earn more in tips for bringing appitizers and your drinks than a trained phlebotomist or Medical Technician. To me, that is giving a false incentive. Waiting tables should be something you do to get a technical skills. Not something you do in the long term because of the amount you bring in.

Id differ with you there...even if they’re not broke, they’re still providing a service. Like most services, you pay more for quality. I want the experience to be as pleasant as possible, and I’m willing to pay for it. Furthermore, if inflation is impacting my expenses, I’m sure it’s impacting the servers as well...but I doubt they’re getting a COL increase or a raise at annual review time.

 

[RatLabGuy]

Actually no.
An employer has to pay 2.13 minimum.
The can't pay.
If 2.13+tips =min wage then no more is needed.
Else they have to supp up to min wage. Under noncircumstance can they pay less than 2.13 from employer

Thats not at all contradicting what I said.

 

[Ron]

Thats not at all contradicting what I said.

Maybe you didnt understand what you were replying to. Or maybe I didnt.
What I think was being said and what I've seen is this.
Restaurant "pays" 2.13/hr. (For easy math) employee works 10 hours. Has to log tips. At end of night has. Collected $100 in tips. Restaurant says "ok you are above min wage you get no check"

What the law says is, even if you collect $500 or $5,000 in tips the restaurant still has to give you that $21.30

 

[shawn]

What the law says is, even if you collect $500 or $5,000 in tips the restaurant still has to give you that $21.30

Math is hard.

 

[RatLabGuy]

Maybe you didnt understand what you were replying to. Or maybe I didnt.
What I think was being said and what I've seen is this.
Restaurant "pays" 2.13/hr. (For easy math) employee works 10 hours. Has to log tips. At end of night has. Collected $100 in tips. Restaurant says "ok you are above min wage you get no check"

What the law says is, even if you collect $500 or $5,000 in tips the restaurant still has to give you that $21.30

All true.
The important feature is that if you receive no tips at all, you still get minimum wage. Not just $21.30.

In other words, outside of illegal employment practice, wait staff are not going home wo any (as defined by societal norm) reasonable pay.
Now, whether min wage is sufficient is a totally separate discussion.