Functional/Design Specs Examples

Kamel

Kamel

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I know we have a diverse group of people here, so I am hoping some of you know what these are. If you use functional and design specs where you work, any chance you have examples you can share? I've tried da goog, but only find templates. I'm looking for real world examples. Bonus points if you tell me how they are approved/accepted and by who. Or any other info you have on software quality control.
 
What are you looking for specifically? Building Construction Specs?

What Divisions?

General requirements
Existing Conditions
Concrete
Masonry
Metals
Wood/Plastics/Composites
Thermal and moisture
Openings
Finishes
Specialties
Equipment
Furnishings
Fire suppression
Plumbing
HVAC
Electrical
Communications
Earthwork
Interior Improvements
Utilities
 
CasterTroy said:
What are you looking for specifically? Building Construction Specs?

What Divisions?

General requirements
Existing Conditions
Concrete
Masonry
Metals
Wood/Plastics/Composites
Thermal and moisture
Openings
Finishes
Specialties
Equipment
Furnishings
Fire suppression
Plumbing
HVAC
Electrical
Communications
Earthwork
Interior Improvements
Utilities
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General requirements would be fine. Our QA department has gone nuts, well, really the lead guy (that has like 2 years here) and I am just looking for different example(s) from other industries.
 
Kamel said:
General requirements would be fine.
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Of General, which subsections?

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This is a current project Im working on:

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And drawing list

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The drawing pack is 176 pages.
 
Kamel said:
These were provided to you by the customer for the project, correct?
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No sir. Not exactly

The design team - Architect and Engineer - develop these and then publish them to price off of to "bid" the job.

Now the path can vary depending on the job.

Sometimes the owner hires the design team - then published these for pricing bid.

This particular job the GC contracted as a CMAR with the owner, the GC hired the design team and we did an onboard partnership designed development where all MEP subs work alongside the design team to develop the plan.

Sometimes we as the EC do the design in house and then submit it to the owner for review/approval.

There are a myriad of paths that a project takes shape.
 
Div 00 and 01 are going to vary with every project. Different project requirements, owner standards, delivery methods. What are you looking for?
 
shawn said:
Div 00 and 01 are going to vary with every project. Different project requirements, owner standards, delivery methods. What are you looking for?
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I'm on the software development side. In out process, the "customer" gives us the requirements (functional spec). The programmer then builds said product, and creates a design spec, that according to our QA, should mimic the functional spec. I was wondering how other fields work. Construction/Architecture is a completely different animal, similar to creating requirements for a CNC machine.
 
Kamel said:
How about electronic drawings? Does that come with another big ass list?
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No..it's rather short

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I'm assuming that when you asked, you didn't really have perspective on what a broad question you asked. Hence the confusion when I replied with such a vast table of contents, and the laugh emojis from some of the others. It's kind of like asking a mechanic "What part makes a car GO"

well, there's the engine, the transmission, the axle, the wheel, the tire. All have to work together to make it "GO"....what did you specifically need info on?

Then asking "well, how does the transmission work?" Then you have the rabbit hole of what makes an automatic transmission work......I made the mistake of asking a transmission mechanic that back in 1998. I walked away after 30 minutes. I think he may still be standing there explaining that one.

To break it down to layman's terms, Specs are generated by the design team to protect the owner. AIA Masterspec is a beginning source. It's where MOST specs are derived. You pick and choose what applies and insert their database into your personal spec. Then you can tweak the sections and divisions the way you need too.

Essentially what you are doing is making a written list of how you want things done, as precisely as you can, for any idiot to install it. And yes..you have to assume ANYONE who is going after your job is a complete idiot. And you have to tell them how to do it. I.E. you're looking after you sisters 8yr boy. And you've told him to go take a shower. This kid is a moron. So you have to tell him step by step....turn on the shower to WARM. take ALL of your clothes off (if not this idiot will get in the shower with his underware and socks) enter the show, CLOSE THE SHOWER DOOR, stand under water. Use soap and wash your ENTIRE BODY. Stand under the water and rinse your ENTIRE body. Use shampoo on your hair. turn off shower. Use towel and dry your entire body. Put PJs on.

Now...I left out the part where he's supposed to RINSE the shampoo out of his hair. So he's come downstairs in his PJs with a head full of shampoo and bubbles :gtfo:

This is how specs end up being 700 pages and 50 sections
 
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shawn said:
Div 00 and 01 are going to vary with every project. Different project requirements, owner standards, delivery methods. What are you looking for?
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Or just be like Corgan and hit CTRL+C and CTRL+V for every freaking project and never change a damn thing even though you have at least one hundred examples to reference and improve upon.
 
orange150 said:
Or just be like Corgan and hit CTRL+C and CTRL+V for every freaking project and never change a damn thing even though you have at least one hundred examples to reference and improve upon.
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I did a little editing while you were replying. See the last part I added :laughing:
 
CasterTroy said:
No..it's rather short

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I'm assuming that when you asked, you didn't really have perspective on what a broad question you asked. Hence the confusion when I replied with such a vast table of contents, and the laugh emojis from some of the others. It's kind of like asking a mechanic "What part makes a car GO"

well, there's the engine, the transmission, the axle, the wheel, the tire. All have to work together to make it "GO"....what did you specifically need info on?

Then asking "well, how does the transmission work?" Then you have the rabbit hole of what makes an automatic transmission work......I made the mistake of asking a transmission mechanic that back in 1998. I walked away after 30 minutes. I think he may still be standing there explaining that one.

To break it down to layman's terms, Specs are generated by the design team to protect the owner. AIA Masterspec is a beginning source. It's where MOST specs are derived. You pick and choose what applies and insert their database into your personal spec. Then you can tweak the sections and divisions the way you need too.

Essentially what you are doing is making a written list of how you want things done, as precisely as you can, for any idiot to install it. And yes..you have to assume ANYONE who is going after your job is a complete idiot. And you have to tell them how to do it. I.E. you're looking after you sisters 8yr boy. And you've told him to go take a shower. This kid is a moron. So you have to tell him step by step....turn on the shower to WARM. take ALL of your clothes off (if not this idiot will get in the shower with his underware and socks) enter the show, CLOSE THE SHOWER DOOR, stand under water. Use soap and wash your ENTIRE BODY. Stand under the water and rinse your ENTIRE body. Use shampoo on your hair. turn off shower. Use towel and dry your entire body. Put PJs on.

Now...I left out the part where he's supposed to RINSE the shampoo out of his hair. So he's come downstairs in his PJs with a head full of shampoo and bubbles :gtfo:

This is how specs end up being 700 pages and 50 sections
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Thanks!
 
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