4X4 cross URE stables

Lorenzo816 said:
funny you mention it. I do rmbr a lot more Wranglers last year on RML.
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There was also alot more breakage and DNFs last year.
Correlation...??? :rolleyes:
 
it was a diffrent type of race more rocks for all classes
IMHO this type corse needs a longer wheelbase like the XJ w/ long travel suspension...
and they cost too much
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Thanks to everyone

THANKS TO RICK & LORENZO AND ALL THE VOLUNTEERS! WE COULD NOT HAVE DONE THIS WITHOUT ALL YOUR HELP!
I also wanted to take a minute to let you know that we are listening to all the suggestions that are being made and have several changes already in mind for our next 4x4 race. I guarantee that the next time you come, you will have a much safer track and better views for spectators watching the race.
 
I think the Wilson truck that won B class was 4wd..but the 4 cyl. Toyota that took 2nd was a 2wd pre-runner type truck. I bet he didnt even spill his free Monster drink while jumping everything. A little more deep mud would have taken care of him!!
I'm not mad that a 2wd truck beat me....I am just JEALOUS:flipoff2:
 
burrellsjeep said:
I must have missed that one, I plan on running next race, So I will be one
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crap I kept thinking about it and thinking about it and I knew Bob checked in a Pro Class Wrangler. Brandon Mylton. 12th.
I remember starting him and thinking... this the only one?



btw - THANKS JOHNNY!
 
Thanks to everyone who helped put this event on. We had a great time. Looks like everyone's recomendations for improvement are right on target with mine. It shouldn't take too much to make the next event run smoother.

There was some good competition out there in 'A' class. I think we could have done a bit better through a couple of the sections...but then again hind sight is always 20-20.
 
Im working on getting my video of fri night rock crawl/ sat morning posted! I had to leave sat afternoon. I had an awesome time and am glad I got to sit in the Bronco for the pic. It was worth the 25 bucks! Im def racing next year OR the next race....!!?!!
 
Well since this has become the "constructive criticism" thread (not my choice) ere are a few of my thoughts as a rcaer, but also somebody who spent alot of time watching... including suggested solutions

First off - great job, last year was good and thsi year was even better.

-imfamous hairpin turn at the lake -I'm sure this will get a guardrail, no need to harp on it.
-Not enough EMS on hand at the race course. i'm sure they were around, but response time was, well, unacceptable IMO.
Suggestion - one EMS guy stationed at start/end line, another 1/2 way around track, each w/ ATV. That puts a trained responder within 3-4 mins max from any point on the track for any worst case scenerio. As a racer, I'd gladly pay an extra $5/whatever just to know this was available. Have larger fire extinguishers at same points - one guy passed the line on fire?

-The general recovery/getting-next-guy-going was waaaay better this year, fantastic job.

-No trophies? Hate to agree w/ Brad but please spend $15 on some. This really screams "cheapskate"...

-Side-by-side ATV racing was cool - but sticking it in the middle of the 4x4 racing was wierd and really messed up the flow/progress. No clue why it was even added? I would have been really pissed if my race slot was pushed to Sun afternoon b/c of that. Make it a seperate event at another time (or day), it attracts a different crowd.

-Stopwatch timing by eye. This is a simple/cheap solution, but is horribly unreliable (human response times can vary by seconds to the same repeated event!). If I were within 1 second of another guy and $3k I'd be pissed.
You can cheaply/easily wire a photocell to stop a giant clock - and having a giant clock would be very cool for spectators to watch time lapse

-announcing/detailing the race. This has been hit already - but havingthe race really followed would make a huge difference to the racers AND spectators. Announce every racer at start, and at various checkpoints - have a dedicated guy following them.
This guys should NOT be the same as Lorenzo's job, but a dedicated announcer like the mud races have.

-overlap w/ the Mud Race - is this really necesary? Why not seperate events? Then you could dedicate the PA etc to it. Plus, the mud racers were very annoying and disrespectful of the 4x4Cross area, one groups parked a huge trailer right in front of us bocking view/access etc, then proceeded to "show off" how loud their truck was. Very rude. The whole thing had the feel of "BIG MAJOR MUD RACE and oh yeah this other thing going on too".

-infor for spectators re: seating etc- need major signage about where you can/can not sit. I don't think anybodyknew you could go to the back side of the track, besides those who already knew it.

-trash etc - need trash cans down by "the hill"

-Intermingled classes? There was discussion about mixing the classes, "to keep it interesting" - what happened? After the buggies, the crowd split - sucked for us B-classes who were just kind of "left over".

-Entry fees - Discussed this w/ many A/B class folks. Lower payout is OK if it means lower fees, esp A-class. People simply don't want to pay >$100... alot of cash to enter a rig they may not expect to survive, esp w/ today's economy.... buggy classes maybe different story though.

-Schedule generally went pretty well, that was impressive. Only complaint was cutting the Fri pre-run earlier than posted, I didn't get to run. However I realize this was b/c of prep for the rock crawl - but why couldn't that be done in parallel? Manpower?

-tech inspection - could def have been more thorough/technical. Nothing was checked before the race (only asked about day before) - I realized after my run, I didn't even have my first aid kit onboard. Last year we almost couldn't run b/c my copilot had the wrong kind of helmet. Annoying at the time, but appreciative of the concern for details.
Sometimes I wonder if attention needs paid to a structural inspection too?

I suspect 95% of the issues are manpower related. Hopefully w/ the positive attitude ocming out of this, more hands will be around next time.
And again, kudos to all those who worked their asses off for it, it was worth ot.
 
Hey guys. New member here from Va beach VA. Just wanted to say thanks for the great event. Had a blast. I agree with others that there is some room for improvement on a few things, but overall this weekend was a really fun one. I will be down next year for sure.

I was wondering if anyone had any pics or vids of my rock crawl run friday night. I dont know if the custom built racing vids guys got my run or not, i sent them an e-mail and said id pay the price for a dvd if they could just send me the file of my run. But anyways any other pics or vids of the rock crawl anyone??? Just want to see how my leaf sprung beater was doing trying to hang with all you 3+4 link guys.

Next year i will be entering the 4x4cross for sure, I think I can give those c class guys a run for their money :driver: .

btw i was driving this....

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and next year lets see some BIGGER JUMPS :bounce2:

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Thanks again to everyone and all the sponsors for the great event.
 
The only thing that really bothered me was how spectators and some racers insisted on staying on the track while trying to get Greg's/Bigwoody's rig out of the pond. They were definitely limiting the options available to help him out. Typical rubbernecking behavior that keeps help from reaching people in need. Thats why Lorenzo tried to get the horses in and people off the track. And unfortunately the family that was at the pond, ready to help got caught in a mob of gawkers ready to laugh and joke at someones demise.
 
Like ratlab said we really thought that the classes would be mixed up and run that way.It would be very cool to have say an A class rig run then a D class rig run followed by a B class then an A class and etc This would give the fans and racers a mix to watch and that way the B class would have alot more folks cheering them/us on:popcorn:
Overall a good event.
Whens the next one????This fall???:driver:
 
badog said:
I would like to see a rock crawling corse that the average trail rig could run...
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x2.... they made it easier than last year but they need something that someone with a mildly modded disco or cherokee that doesn't have a dedicated trail rig or buggy could run. I think if they made a few separate ones for that there would be a lot more people out there joining in.
 
The main problem with mixing up classes is the logistics of changing the course markers everytime a dif. class ran. Remember..A,B, classes had dif. routes.
 
Suggestions

I just wanted to let you guys know that we are definitely moving forward with all suggestions. Matter of fact.... Santa Claus is bringing a dozer out this am to start pushing trees!!!
We built this for you guys and want it to be the best out there. We appreciate everyone's input. Who's ready to race again?!!!
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Hell ya we're listenting.
Yall know I scraped the finish line for ya. :)

As for the tech inspection...
I checked everyone day before because it was very time consuming. I even was about to raise a few vehicles in A-class because I thought they had lockers in the front because of the way they were turning on the track.

Also I did look over everyone for the three main things before they were started: Helmet (Full face), Seatbelts, fire extinguisher, and first aid. We did have a Pro Class finish on fire. Luckily we got it put out. And I turned around the trampoline jeep for not having a full face helmet the day before. If I missed your kit Dave, my bad :(
One thing for improvement, next year is to have a bigger extinguisher on the ATV and each of my spotters to have one too. A few of them did have extinguishers but not all. I had one with me later on in the day. Next year I know exactly how many people I need to spot and do check in and tech (we're 1 down but picked up mic to help spot in a few places - hats off to mic) and also help send announcements up to the booth. Heck last year we had no announcements!

I would like to for next time make it clear where spectators can and can't sit. Chuck had a good point about the back side pond and also closer to 'ledge' was good. But the grassy area.... we'll need to figure something out. Because the folks can't see over a line of trucks ready to race. So we let them on the other side. Perhaps we'll have two sets of lines. One for the trucks and one for the fans so the the spotters and I can move a little easier.

Yeah the trash disposal was kinda not clear on the grass but people weren't really supposed to be on that side originally - regardless, gotta have more containers in some places. I had a huge bag over under the checkin tent I used to pick up a bunch of trash saturday night. At least we're a good group of people and there were piles, neat piles, of trash for me to gather. Not strewn about crap. :) Thanks to all on the hill for that.
 
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