bad sellers scrappy1982 and cherokeecody

Sorry to hear about your troubles dude. I have to say that it really isn't a one sided situation though. Sure, inspecting a Toyota diff isn't easy but you can easily tell the difference between a weld/spool and ratcheting locker. If you are good, you probably could tell between a lunchbox and detroit. Atleast you know it has a locker over a weld job. Gearing, tcase, and trans...you should of identified the parts before purchasing. If you don't inspect, then a good set of receipts should show what you have.

I'm sorry but if you are doing a build, there should be a paper trail of parts or atleast some photos of what is going on. Even a flip phone has a camera in it.

As far as the chassis goes, pretty tough to see what wall tubing was used. That's a tough one and you really are taking someones word on it. It sucks that they treated you so poorly and karma will eventually bite someone like that in the ass. Hopefully the person they wrong doesn't have a short temper or have retard strength because pissing the wrong person up could end badly.

Chalk the whole event up to buyer beware and for the consumer to personally or have someone professionally look a rig over before finalizing the deal. A crawler I bought years ago was priced fair and the seller was fairly clear on what the truck had. I ended up tearing that entire rig down to the bare bones and starting from scratch because I found loose bolts, blown bearings, etc.
 
I have plenty of pictures and all the parts still but I'm not trying to prove anything I'm just warning people
 
Sorry for your luck dude. My perspective has changed over the yrs. I am an honest tard and expect likewise treatment. I have been burnt alot, in all areas of purchasing. I also jabber to much face too face from some sort of inner anxiety and it weirds some people out. (Buyers) I worry alot about impressions of myself. So I generally suck at selling or buying. Theirfore I have few "Trading Friends". And that group knows or has accounts of anybody I deal with. And the group grows slowly. I research the person more than the product. All else then seems to fall into place.
 
I have found less is more when selling something. Let the guy breathe and look it over. Answer asked questions. If he wants it he will buy it.
 
U guys are not getting the whole story, Josh text me about the buggy, and it did have all the parts I had listed, the chassis, I know wasn't perfect but it was for me, I know it wasn't the best in the world, never claimed it to be, Josh never made a deal with me at all, and it was not 3 days til I sold it to Cody, it was weeks, Cody offered me a price and I took parts off to compensate, well below asking price, after I had sold it josh called, I told him it was sold , he asked for costs number, I gave it to him and that was it, I was not involved with him buying it at all! He called me and was complaining and threatning me, and i said I would come pick up axles and give him his money back, and he never called back til last week saying he was gonna post by stuff about me on here.I even offered to buy it all back, what more could I have done?
 
Ok...sooooooo...somehow once it left your place and got to Cody's, the detroits magic'd themselves into welded diff/EZlocker and a fresh 22r transformed into one that had serious internal issues? Or are you hinting that Cody sold it all to him under the impression that some fairly expensive parts hadn't been removed and replaced with welded diffs and a crap engine when Cody acquired the pile of parts from you? Something still doesn't add up in all of that...
 
You could have not lied about the motor transmission and transfer case that would have been a good start lol I guess by some parts you mean you swapped the fresh engine for a blow engine the turbo Trans and transfer case for a w56 that's ignoring all the bs with the axles and chassis I'm over dealing with Adam like I said before this is a warning don't do business with eather of these guys adam of you despute any of my claims I have pictures and bills from reputable shops I'm happy to show you
 
So my question is...Did josh assume the truck remained the same once it was sold to Cody? If so, that may be the missing link. If Cody didn't relay that the truck had been stripped to compensate for a lower offer that was transacted...I don't see how that's scrappy's problem at all...unless he made these swaps without letting Cody know either.
 
^^^he didn't swap shit he claims he swapped the rear axle but then he sent me the other real axle at my cost and it was crap also
 
Iam admiting going on another members word on diffs, I offered to buy them back months ago, and he said its to far away, and i said i would come get them, and never heard back from him, and he text me last week about the rest of stuff, I said i will buy it back no problem, never heard back, the tranny, tcase, and chassis ain't my problem, I did not sell it to him, never even met the guy, plus I didn't even sell it on here, honestly I didn't even get close to half of what I had it priced on here, ive offered all I know to offer, I just wished people would get whole story before they say stuff, like I say Iam not even the seller!!!
 
I explained the sale situation very clearly in the first post I think everyone gets that you offered me 2k back if I brought you the chassis and everything back I also said that in the first post you know I can not give it all back to you beacuse I paid to much to have it fixed you said if it's not complete you did not want it obviously it would not be the way I bought it 6 months ago my plan was always tk finish it I'm not going to give you all my new parts for 2k no if you want your chassis chris says he still has it cut up in the scrap bin and I will give you some junk diffs and axle housings and a w56 and I will gladly take your 2k beacuse that's all I got when I paid 2k
 
you also never offered to buy the diffs back you offered to give me the 150 i paid to ship the second axle to me wich was junk back if i drove 7.5 hours to meet you this was not worth it to me and i wrote you off as a p.o.s. and moved on with my biuld. when i found out everything was a lie i desided to warn people
 
All of what Josh says is true...he has nothing to loose...but alot of money in crap parts. And that already happened. Scrappy1982 isn't telling the truth here. I've seen everything and he knows he is a tool in a turd wagon. Anybody who trying to sell someone a trashed motor
( he might have never opened it up, but he said he personally BUILT it...wrong. What's your take on this motor???? Scrappy1982 . I know I am beating a dead horse, just glad that Adam came to the thread to try and make himself look better than he is? I know we all make mistakes but trying to take advantage of people is wrong. You knew what you had and lied to Josh about it and now it's coming out...and it sucks, doesn't it? Just a piece of trouble that Josh has gone through to fix the pile of crap parts you tried to put together as a goofy single seater.
 
OK well since this horse is pretty much dead, might as well pull out some tech here?

Sure it it - jack up the truck, put trans in N or remove driveshaft, and carefully spin a wheel, watch the other one and the pinion...
This still doesn't verify whether its welded or a detroit or a lockright/spartan etc.

It's been a while since I've worked with one - and I'm not a gear guru by any means - but don't auto-lockers only bind/lock under load? So if you had both wheels off the ground AND the DS disconnected, wouldn't it stay unlocked if you spin a wheel? Of course that won't differentiate a LR vs Spartan etc.
Also I'd wonder if you were really attentive to the meshing of the gears as you jiggle the wheel, could you not tell if the spiders were welded vs a geared lock? In the latter shouldn't you have a little more play?
Just thinking out loud, and not that I'd be able to tell myself.
 
Did I sell it to Josh? No I didn't, he needs to take it up with who got the money. Not me I offered to buy thewhole damn thing back! And orv fab I understand the chassis isn't up to ur standards, and thats fine, never said it was anything special, but I promise it was different, not like all the other million yota buggies, and somebody must have liked that goofy single seater it sold twice!!
But anyways ive said my peice, believe who u want!
 
Hey scrappy, I've got some swamp land I'll sale ya! Actually it's only an old bathtub filled with dirt and rain water, but what the hell, let's call it 2k. Deal? Or ill trade for a kick in the nuts.... who doesn't love being mule kicked! Pm me if intersted, I do take Pay Pal
 
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