Call me Bob Villia!!!

shawn said:
It looks like you're covered in the shitter department, but if you need to go buy another, the 1.2 gallon TOTO Drake will flush a cat.
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It was there new in the box so i used it.... Free is for me!
 
shawn said:
What labels?
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All the ones I've bought have "15A" or "20A" lightly embossed between the outlets. Granted you've got to look for it to see it... but now that I know its there it bugs the crap out of me to see it upside down.
Also, there are labels on the back, for those that don't know where to put the f%cking wires and need silly things like warning... :flipoff2:
 
The "theory" is the if the receptacle is partially unplugged and something falls behind it, it will contact the ground (I.E. grounding NOT neutral I.E. grounded conductor) and if it also hits either of the legs will more likely cause a breaker trip.

I think it sounds good in theory but either damn way will trip a breaker and unless the pins are unusually long a finger isnt going to contact any of it.
 
Momma is happy, end of discussion in upside down or not! And if any of you convince her they are wrong, bring your happy ass on over and change them!
 
Ron said:
The "theory" is the if the receptacle is partially unplugged and something falls behind it, it will contact the ground (I.E. grounding NOT neutral I.E. grounded conductor) and if it also hits either of the legs will more likely cause a breaker trip.

I think it sounds good in theory but either damn way will trip a breaker and unless the pins are unusually long a finger isnt going to contact any of it.
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yeah I always thought that was a really stupid theory, it's hard for me to see the probability of it ever mattering.

I go with a very different theory, based on real-life experience:
Cords get yanked out of plugs all the time. Yeah you're not supposed to pull by the wire, but lets face it, it happens. Sometimes by accident, sometimes just lazy.
An outlet is close to the ground. So 98% of the time the "pull" comes from an upward angle.
The ground plug is longer and acts like an anchor, and is offset from the incoming wire cable on 90% of wires.
If the ground plug is on top, it fights against the angle of the pull, so you have to pull harder for it to come out.
If it's on bottom, it isn't in the way, pops out easier.

I'd rather have the plug pop out, than have more strain added to the cord - reducing likelihood of frayed cord.

So, I'd rather have the ground plug on the bottom.

Also - that way it makes a face. That makes me happy.

But what really matters is... all being the same.
OK no what really matters is, like Snappy said, however the wife likes it...
 
snappy said:
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Trying out the drywall skills because i am a cheap bastard....
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lol my experience w/ drywall is - you gotta be patient, and just accept that it takes a bunch of small coats, can't do it all at once.
Why is why I SUCK so bad at it.
 
Ron said:
The "theory" is the if the receptacle is partially unplugged and something falls behind it,
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It's usually the cover plate that you have to worry about.

Also, Dave's alleged justification for why his way is "right" actually illustrates why it's not -- putting the ground on top makes it less likely to fall out of the receptacle, and more likely to be safe if it should slip out a bit. Laziness is rarely an excuse. :flipoff2:
 
shawn said:
It's usually the cover plate that you have to worry about.

Also, Dave's alleged justification for why his way is "right" actually illustrates why it's not -- putting the ground on top makes it less likely to fall out of the receptacle, and more likely to be safe if it should slip out a bit. Laziness is rarely an excuse. :flipoff2:
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Actually by Dave's theory, it's still better because the natural force for it just falling out would be down, which is more difficult with the ground plug down. But I can't believe we're still talking about this haha.
 
jeepinmatt said:
Actually by Dave's theory, it's still better because the natural force for it just falling out would be down, which is more difficult with the ground plug down. But I can't believe we're still talking about this haha.
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Bingo. On both accounts. Not to mention that if it is bumped/stepped on/rubbed/whatever, the more likely force is downward, not up.
I considered starting a whole new thread but I couldn't move all this shit out.

shawn said:
It's usually the cover plate that you have to worry about.

Also, Dave's alleged justification for why his way is "right" actually illustrates why it's not -- putting the ground on top makes it less likely to fall out of the receptacle, and more likely to be safe if it should slip out a bit. Laziness is rarely an excuse. :flipoff2:
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Not intended as an excuse - just admitting reality. Once your kids are older maybe you'll have to admit it happens too.
 
RatLabGuy said:
Not intended as an excuse - just admitting reality. Once your kids are older maybe you'll have to admit it happens too.
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Liberal application of corporal punishment tends to discourage that kind of shit.
 
Took a snow day yesterday.. Got the bathroom all done but mirrors. Hung the last cabinet in the laundry room, and shaved down a few doors and cut in the hinges. The wife wanted panel doors so she got panel doors.
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All the doors have been bastard sizes. So i bought an electric hand planner and fixed that issue!
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Tonight i fixed not being able to see in the garage. I had purchased some led t8 bulbs for the tool truck but didnt read you take out the ballast and shoot 110 in the bulb so i bought a 4 bulb 8ft light and gutted it and presto!
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Right side still with the old fashioned light bulb.
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Now with all 8 bulbs going.
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What kind of ceiling is that in the garage? Looks like siding?

... and looks like it s a nice tall 9' or so?
 
Got a little bit done today after taking the arguer to the guys at the workday. Got the drywall finished, 15x14 room with closet and dormer floor done and made some shelves in the boys closet(have to cut the shelving boards tomorrow).....
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snappy said:
Got a little bit done today after taking the arguer to the guys at the workday
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You took your wife to the guys at the workday?
 
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